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#1
zombiegleemax
Sep 17, 2004 3:46:48 Okay, here's a hypothetical situation:

Say a bunch of paladins and other LG types set up a citadel on the lower-planar, chaotic side of the Outlands (in order to purge the land of evil, etc.). The citadel swells, attracting others to it, and becomes a town. The group become more and more isolated from the outside, and this little burg becomes an island of order and good. Does it slide to Mount Celestia, and if so, does it go all at once or instead slowly slip across the Outlands until it reaches Excelsior?
#2
zombiegleemax
Sep 17, 2004 5:07:01 I don't think there is an official answer in the books, but I think it'd slowly slip towards Excelsior.
#3
bob_the_efreet
Sep 17, 2004 17:01:41 The rate of sliding could also depend on how quickly the philosophy of the area changes.
#4
zombiegleemax
Sep 17, 2004 21:23:55 Interesting question. I doubt sliding is so much a physical action, but rather a slide from plane (Outlands) to plane (Mount Celestia), so I'm not sure its location in the Outlands would matter much. Although it does seem that its location in the outlands would effect how soon it slides. Aka, the farther away from the Excelsior/Mount Celestia side it is, the more difficult it would be for it to slide. As well, I'm sure any LG-aligned city located on the lower part of the Outlands probably wouldn't survive long anyway. The fiends and evil cutters'd make sure of that. They'd probably rip it to shreds before it even got too powerful of a town. A berg of such a "good" alignment located just in their back yards would most definitely attract the attention of the lower planes.
#5
zombiegleemax
Sep 18, 2004 6:49:32 Thanks, everyone. ;)

What about the actual moment of sliding to a different plane? Does the town vanish in a flash of light, get sucked through a gate like a ship in a whirlpool or does everyone just wake up one morning to find there are more fiends (or celestials, or modrons, or slaadi, etc.) walking around than there used to be?
#6
zombiegleemax
Sep 18, 2004 8:06:23 The way I see it it's something like this.
#7
zombiegleemax
Sep 19, 2004 4:32:13 This recieved some discussion in the Adventure Fires of Dis when the Gate Town of Excellsior is on the verge of ascending to Celestia. Rather than physical sliding it sort of fades out from the Outlands when the "law and goodness" reaches a high enough level and fades in to Celestia with a fanfare from Archons welcoming it.

-Eric Gorman
#8
zombiegleemax
Sep 21, 2004 7:48:46 It all depends on style. That style could depend on the particular alignment of the town sliding and where it's sliding to. In the game Planescape: Torment the gate town to Carceri slid through the portal in the middle of town. The portal just sucked it up like a big Hoover vacuum. On the other hand when it slides back to the Outlands all be buildings come falling out of the sky on bolts of electricity.

As to your previous question: By
the lower-planar, chaotic side of the Outlands

I'm assuming you mean this supposed citadel is near the gate town to the abyss, since there are no actual directions in the Outlands. Supposing that the inhabitants remain LG paladins I believe it would simply slide to Mt. Celestia. If however some began to waver in their faith or alignment it's conceivable that it might replace the current gate town. As to how fast it would slide again that's more of a style question. How fast do you want it to slide? Myself I see it as being a product of how many steps in alignment it is removed from the closest portal as well as on which ring it's located. EX: A LG town closest to a CE portal is 4 steps removed thus it would take quite some time to move towards MT. Celestia. If it were located on the second ring it would take even longer.
#9
zombiegleemax
Oct 03, 2004 13:01:27 I'd have it slowly (very slowly, perhaps over centuries) shift geographically so it's closer and closer to Excelsior. It might, eventually, replace Excelsior as the gate town to Mount Celestia. Once it does, it wuld stop moving. However, if it changed planes, I think it would be a very sudden movement, probably (in this case) accompanied by blinding light a choir invisible.

Incidentally, in my campaign I am going to touch upon the Temple of the Captive God. This originated in the Outlands long ago, but I decided that after such a long time, it had probably slipped into Carceri where it "belonged". I mean, it's a massive temple about the size of a nation, and yet repeated attempts to find it have failed. It seems to me it must have moved, and where better than Carceri?

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#1 zombiegleemax Sep 17, 2004 3:46:48	Okay, here's a hypothetical situation: Say a bunch of paladins and other LG types set up a citadel on the lower-planar, chaotic side of the Outlands (in order to purge the land of evil, etc.). The citadel swells, attracting others to it, and becomes a town. The group become more and more isolated from the outside, and this little burg becomes an island of order and good. Does it slide to Mount Celestia, and if so, does it go all at once or instead slowly slip across the Outlands until it reaches Excelsior?
#2 zombiegleemax Sep 17, 2004 5:07:01	I don't think there is an official answer in the books, but I think it'd slowly slip towards Excelsior.
#3 bob_the_efreet Sep 17, 2004 17:01:41	The rate of sliding could also depend on how quickly the philosophy of the area changes.
#4 zombiegleemax Sep 17, 2004 21:23:55	Interesting question. I doubt sliding is so much a physical action, but rather a slide from plane (Outlands) to plane (Mount Celestia), so I'm not sure its location in the Outlands would matter much. Although it does seem that its location in the outlands would effect how soon it slides. Aka, the farther away from the Excelsior/Mount Celestia side it is, the more difficult it would be for it to slide. As well, I'm sure any LG-aligned city located on the lower part of the Outlands probably wouldn't survive long anyway. The fiends and evil cutters'd make sure of that. They'd probably rip it to shreds before it even got too powerful of a town. A berg of such a "good" alignment located just in their back yards would most definitely attract the attention of the lower planes.
#5 zombiegleemax Sep 18, 2004 6:49:32	Thanks, everyone. ;) What about the actual moment of sliding to a different plane? Does the town vanish in a flash of light, get sucked through a gate like a ship in a whirlpool or does everyone just wake up one morning to find there are more fiends (or celestials, or modrons, or slaadi, etc.) walking around than there used to be?
#6 zombiegleemax Sep 18, 2004 8:06:23	The way I see it it's something like this.
#7 zombiegleemax Sep 19, 2004 4:32:13	This recieved some discussion in the Adventure Fires of Dis when the Gate Town of Excellsior is on the verge of ascending to Celestia. Rather than physical sliding it sort of fades out from the Outlands when the "law and goodness" reaches a high enough level and fades in to Celestia with a fanfare from Archons welcoming it. -Eric Gorman
#8 zombiegleemax Sep 21, 2004 7:48:46	It all depends on style. That style could depend on the particular alignment of the town sliding and where it's sliding to. In the game Planescape: Torment the gate town to Carceri slid through the portal in the middle of town. The portal just sucked it up like a big Hoover vacuum. On the other hand when it slides back to the Outlands all be buildings come falling out of the sky on bolts of electricity. As to your previous question: By the lower-planar, chaotic side of the Outlands I'm assuming you mean this supposed citadel is near the gate town to the abyss, since there are no actual directions in the Outlands. Supposing that the inhabitants remain LG paladins I believe it would simply slide to Mt. Celestia. If however some began to waver in their faith or alignment it's conceivable that it might replace the current gate town. As to how fast it would slide again that's more of a style question. How fast do you want it to slide? Myself I see it as being a product of how many steps in alignment it is removed from the closest portal as well as on which ring it's located. EX: A LG town closest to a CE portal is 4 steps removed thus it would take quite some time to move towards MT. Celestia. If it were located on the second ring it would take even longer.
#9 zombiegleemax Oct 03, 2004 13:01:27	I'd have it slowly (very slowly, perhaps over centuries) shift geographically so it's closer and closer to Excelsior. It might, eventually, replace Excelsior as the gate town to Mount Celestia. Once it does, it wuld stop moving. However, if it changed planes, I think it would be a very sudden movement, probably (in this case) accompanied by blinding light a choir invisible. Incidentally, in my campaign I am going to touch upon the Temple of the Captive God. This originated in the Outlands long ago, but I decided that after such a long time, it had probably slipped into Carceri where it "belonged". I mean, it's a massive temple about the size of a nation, and yet repeated attempts to find it have failed. It seems to me it must have moved, and where better than Carceri?