Surviving Dragonlords/Overlords

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#1

quentingeorge

Oct 06, 2004 2:15:54
(spoilers for some novels)

Who are the surviving dragonlords now (as of 40 SC)?

Gellidius (White), Mohrlex (Black), Pyrothraxus (Red), Cryonisis and Frisindia (White), Fenalysten (Red), Lorrinar (Green)

Have I missed any?
#2

zombiegleemax

Oct 06, 2004 4:59:11
Is dragonlord the real name? I know overlords that a superdragon. And i know dragonhighlords that a generals of Takhisis army.

What is with Damon as dragon? Its be important intresting what the gods now do with the rest of the Overlords? Then we know if it give Surviver. And forget not the stargates are open, every day can come a new overlord.

Your Question is a good idea, but can you tell where they overlords just live at ansalon?
#3

quentingeorge

Oct 06, 2004 5:29:24
The way I understand it:

Dragon Overlord: One of the big five: Malys, Skie, Beryl, Frost, Sable

Dragonlord: The other "little" lords: Pitch, Fume, Cinder, Pyro, Splendor, Thunder, Brine etc.


As for Dhamon, well, Lake of Death answers any questions you might have there...
#4

zombiegleemax

Oct 06, 2004 5:59:56
Other question was is with Taladas? Was overlords there and have kill Krynn Dragons?
#5

cam_banks

Oct 06, 2004 6:32:26
Other question was is with Taladas? Was overlords there and have kill Krynn Dragons?

There's no official answer to that yet, although in Amber & Ashes there's a reference to a dragon overlord halfway around the world bothering Habbakuk, which is certainly a hint.

Cheers,
Cam
#6

iltharanos

Oct 06, 2004 10:47:53
(spoilers for some novels)

Who are the surviving dragonlords now (as of 40 SC)?

Gellidius (White), Mohrlex (Black), Pyrothraxus (Red), Cryonisis and Frisindia (White), Fenalysten (Red), Lorrinar (Green)

Have I missed any?

The remaining:

Overlords: Gellidus (White), Onysablet (Black)

Dragonlords: Pyrothraxus (Red), Cryonisis (White), Frisindia (White), Fenalysten (Red), Lorrinar (Green), Mohrlex (Black)
#7

Dragonhelm

Oct 06, 2004 11:00:11
Without giving anything away, you may wish to read Lake of Death. I hear that one of the overlords makes an appearance there.
#8

brimstone

Oct 06, 2004 11:14:08
Without giving anything away, you may wish to read Lake of Death. I hear that one of the overlords makes an appearance there.

Just guessing, as I haven't read it yet...but given that the cover has a overly large black dragon on it...I'd say it's either Onysablet or Mohrlex.
#9

zombiegleemax

Oct 06, 2004 15:30:28
Silly question but right now my books are not with me. What portion of Ergoth does Gellidus rule over ? Is it Southern Ergoth ? And it is a frozen tundra correct ?

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#10

quentingeorge

Oct 06, 2004 15:39:39
Lake of Death features Dhamon and Sable.

And that's all I'll say about it.
#11

zombiegleemax

Oct 06, 2004 15:42:13
Lake of Death features Dhamon and Sable.

And that's all I'll say about it.

I saw that book on Borders' bookshelf. I was going to buy it, but I want to finish the other books I am reading first. Does it begin before or after The Dhamon Saga ?

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#12

sephzero

Oct 06, 2004 15:56:52
The Lake of Death takes place after the Dhamon Saga and with some good reasons for it. Things are a bit interesting at the start of it.

Gellidus rules over the frozen tundra that has covered most of the north-north west portions of Southern Ergoth. For the time being at least.
#13

zombiegleemax

Oct 06, 2004 15:58:54
The Lake of Death takes place after the Dhamon Saga and with some good reasons for it. Things are a bit interesting at the start of it.

I have not even read The Betrayal(Of The Dhamon Saga) yet.

Gellidus rules over the frozen tundra that has covered most of the north-north west portions of Southern Ergoth. For the time being at least.

So the Ergothian people live in Southern Ergoth, not Northern then ?

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#14

quentingeorge

Oct 06, 2004 16:11:35
Ergothians live mainly in Northern Ergoth, along with kender and some goblins.

Southern Ergoth has elves (Kagonesti, Silvanesti and Qualinesti), humans (chiefly Solamnics), and ogres. Gellidius has also imported Thanoi from icewall.
#15

zombiegleemax

Oct 06, 2004 16:22:13
Thank you Quentin.

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#16

ferratus

Oct 06, 2004 17:33:18
I've always thought that humans live under the Ogres in Southern Ergoth, simply under the rule of the Ogres. After all, who is in Zhea Harbour, Pontigoth and all the other cities?

What does the War of the Lance sourcebook say?
#17

zombiegleemax

Oct 06, 2004 17:33:28
As for Dhamon, well, Lake of Death answers any questions you might have there...

Great will it be a new example for powergaming in novels? This time for advancer. How many People kill Dhamon this time? How many new Bestiary we will found this time in the Book? How man dead end designed for the reader for a overdrawn thrilling curvature and plot? In my opinion a new stresstest for Dl Fans. Please lets go back to old school and not Warhammer meets Dragonlance. Then can it be a good book. ;)
#18

brimstone

Oct 06, 2004 17:59:55
Great will it be a new example for powergaming in novels?

Um...okay...?
#19

zombiegleemax

Oct 06, 2004 18:03:13
Um...okay...

? What is um? I dont know the slang.
#20

ferratus

Oct 06, 2004 18:03:16
Hey, Brim, you have the WotL sourcebook. Did all of the humans left in Southern Ergoth at the time of the Cataclysm end up in Ogre's stewpots?
#21

true_blue

Oct 06, 2004 18:12:34
It says that the humans of Zhea Harbor are the last surviving evidence of ergothian culture on the island and owe their allegience to the Empire of Ergoth. A small army obedient to the emperor makes sure the troublesome ogre tribes of southern ergoth keep their distance. North of the human lands are the "badlands" which are populated by wild ogres.
#22

brimstone

Oct 06, 2004 18:14:48
Hey, Brim, you have the WotL sourcebook. Did all of the humans left in Southern Ergoth at the time of the Cataclysm end up in Ogre's stewpots?

I was getting ready to edit my other post with a response to you...but I'll just do it here instead.

The answer is no. It says they basically keep the ogres on the south side of the bay. Occasionally the ogres will raid the human settlements, but the rather wealthy city of Zhea Harbor has an army that they use to keep the ogres back. It says they have a pretty deep harbor too, so they may have a small navy as well.

Zhea Harbor is considered one of the four capitols on the island (Daltigoth, Silvamori, and Qualimori are the other three)...but it also says they owe their alligance to the Empire of Ergoth. Not quite sure what kind of ramifications that has...as Ergoth Proper is on another island. But, like I said Zhea Harbor is a walled city and has an army of its own, so it probably doesn't need protection or help from the Empire. Actually...now that I think about it...I think the army maybe be an imperial army...so, basically, Northern Ergoth is protecting them from the ogres. Which it sounds like the ones they have to worry about the most are the ones from the north, not the ones from Daltigoth and the other side of the bay.

I think the human population in Southern Ergoth was something like 1/3 of the population of 250,000.

EDIT: D'oh! TB beat me to it.
#23

true_blue

Oct 06, 2004 18:18:23
Your reply was more informative.. so maybe you win heh
#24

ferratus

Oct 06, 2004 18:23:24
That geographical information is very sexy.
#25

iltharanos

Oct 06, 2004 18:27:47
That geographical information is very sexy.

For all us dinosaurs you know DL has come a long way since the campaign setting when ferratus compliments the geography section of the latest book. ;)
#26

quentingeorge

Oct 07, 2004 2:20:26
My question is, why has there not been more integration and mixing of races in Southern Ergoth since the war of the lance.

As I understand it, there are are at least two human ethnic groups (Solamnics and Ergothians), three elven and at least one ogre.

You'd think, what with the disintegration of Solamnia and the elven nations in the Fifth Age, and the ascendancy of the Ergothian empire, that the various peoples of Southern Ergoth would unite against a common foe (ie Gellidius). I know the Solamnics and Ergothians are described as strong allies, but they don't seem to be co-ordinating their efforts? Why is that? According to the sourcebooks, the Solamnic Knights seem to have expanded so thoroughly into Ergoth that it and Gunthar are more "Solamnic" than Solamnia.

Also, I seem to recall that the Ergothians reconquered Daltigoth sometime between the War of the Lance and the Fifth Age, and it was only the arrival of Gellidius that allowed the ogres to reclaim it.

The question is, did the Ergothians make an attempt to repopulate their old capital (which must have a lot of symbolic significance for them), and, if they did, what happened to the human population once the ogres retook the city.