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#1
zombiegleemax
Nov 13, 2004 22:06:50 I played the two Dark Sun games for computer about 10 years ago, but I never played DSO or Dark Sun PNP. Can anyone list the original materials that were published before Dark Sun 'died'? I would like to purchase some of the old stuff because I don't know a great deal about the Dark Sun campaign setting but I'm very interested in it.

Thanks
#2
superpriest
Nov 13, 2004 22:53:47 Here's a link listing all TSR's Dark Sun products.

http://darksunrising.info/products.html
#3
Pennarin
Nov 14, 2004 4:31:40 Also get your hands on the novels by Denning and Abbey since they put everything that you'll find in those boxes and books together in some holistic way that allows you to get the big picture of Dark Sun.
#4
zombiegleemax
Nov 14, 2004 6:59:04
I played the two Dark Sun games for computer about 10 years ago, but I never played DSO or Dark Sun PNP. Can anyone list the original materials that were published before Dark Sun 'died'? I would like to purchase some of the old stuff because I don't know a great deal about the Dark Sun campaign setting but I'm very interested in it.

Thanks

I'm the exact opposite.... I have all the original RPG releases and all the Novels... but Ive never found the computer games.... what were the titles?... is there a link somewhere that has a review or pics of the packaging or some more information in general about the compuetr games?...
is there a good place to find them to buy (besides eBay)?..

I figured out PNP means Paper N Pencil right?.... but what does DSO mean tho?
#5
jon_oracle_of_athas
Nov 14, 2004 9:13:13 "Shattered Lands"
http://www.gamedimension.net/darksun/files/DarkSun.zip

"Wake of the Ravager"
http://www.gamedimension.net/darksun/files/DarkSun2.zip
#6
jon_oracle_of_athas
Nov 14, 2004 9:15:06 DSO = Dark Sun Online
#7
Pennarin
Nov 14, 2004 9:19:38 Dark Sun Online I think, not sure if its a PC game or a post-on-the-net game.

Like you I never got to play the egames but they look like they suck considering today's standards, but that's because I never played (so don't take my word ;)).

Man, is this post of mine about something? Why do I even post...
Mach, Kam, Elonarc, please come back, I'm starting to write to myself!!
#8
jon_oracle_of_athas
Nov 14, 2004 9:52:31 And if some obscure being claims there is a crossover Dark Sun/Spell Jammer product out there not on that product list, do us all a favor and just pretend you didn't hear.
#9
elonarc
Nov 14, 2004 17:34:17
Mach, Kam, Elonarc, please come back, I'm starting to write to myself!!

I am quite busy at the moment, but I'll be able do dedicate more time to Dark Sun again in a week or so. But I got my sister interested in drawing Dark Sun pictures, she will hopefully send Jon an email in the near future.

And if some obscure being claims there is a crossover Dark Sun/Spell Jammer product out there not on that product list, do us all a favor and just pretend you didn't hear.

Golden memories...
#10
zombiegleemax
Nov 14, 2004 18:08:13 Thanks for the info.

DSO was a PC game. Google it and you can find screen-shots and stuff. There's a group that's working on remaking DSO, too.

And actually, the PC games were quite fun. I prefer older games though, so I suppose they're not for everyone.
#11
zombiegleemax
Nov 14, 2004 23:55:22 I have Domains of Dread, which is a Ravenloft setting that has Kalidnay's final resting place in it... I also have a xerox of the Spalljammer rules for rules modification for arriving in Athas. But to be honest I think that to mix Athasians in with other settings cheapens it a bit.

But that didn't stop me having my players pop over into a neighboring Gothic setting for a spell, it was hilarious!

I never defined what actual domain it was, but I made it based on Victorian England with a Jack the Ripper like hystaria, and as soon as the leather-clad Athasian types who were at least head taller than everyone else (except for the halfling) showed up, the PCs basically were running for their lives.

The Gladiators plowed through the constables, but when the Police called the military to start shooting, and I had Van Helsing types show up to contain the PCs for scientific investigation, the PCs were so out of their depth with the high technology everyone had that they were running scared thinking everyone was a Magic User... Lots of fun!

-BB
#12
zombiegleemax
Nov 15, 2004 8:55:10
But that didn't stop me having my players pop over into a neighboring Gothic setting for a spell, it was hilarious!

I never defined what actual domain it was, but I made it based on Victorian England with a Jack the Ripper like hystaria

there was a Ravenloft setting called Masque of the Red Death that covered alot of such things.... D&D in victorian era.. a couple supplements for it too I think.. (look for it at svgames.com)

that sounds great.... Dark Sun makes for a great crossover setting... whether the PCs are coming from or going to Athas (or the NPCs are coming from Athas to whatever world the PCs are in).... its great for crossovers because it is such a stark contrast to any other setting..

I'll make a thread soon about the campaign I currently run... d20 Modern/Urban Arcana crossed over with Dark Sun..
#13
pringles
Nov 15, 2004 13:29:30 The shattered land is a good game, but i cant get the sound to work
#14
zombiegleemax
Nov 15, 2004 16:38:45
The shattered land is a good game, but i cant get the sound to work

I think you need to download the sound files (and the manual) separate from the game files.... check this site that somebody else posted today.. and click the Downloads link..
http://www.darksunworld.com/
#15
pringles
Nov 15, 2004 17:33:20 How do we Rest the party? I cant find the button or how to do it.
#16
zombiegleemax
Nov 17, 2004 6:45:36
How do we Rest the party? I cant find the button or how to do it.

Clik on campfire... a circle of rocks, that can usually be found near settlements. You have one just out of the crop fields, as soon as you enter de white desert and a old man comes to talk to you. near his campsite there is one campfire you can use.
#17
jon_oracle_of_athas
Nov 18, 2004 15:16:43 Oh. Don't forget to get the patches for the games. They resolve A LOT of bugs, some that can even prevent you from finishing the game. Unfortunately, there are several patches out there, and I'm uncertain as to which are applicable for the versions of the game in the links I provided above.
#18
pringles
Nov 18, 2004 17:09:13 How can we past the copy protection after the sewer?

Anyone has the answer to the Dragon?
#19
zombiegleemax
Nov 19, 2004 0:45:23 i think the version that has been posted is a hacked version, I think you can type in anything you want. That or find the original game on ebay for $5
#20
zombiegleemax
Nov 19, 2004 5:22:19
How can we past the copy protection after the sewer?

Anyone has the answer to the Dragon?

I think a I have the *.txt file with all the answers, in case you don't manage to get past through the dragon mail me.
#21
pringles
Nov 19, 2004 11:56:15 I got it. Just google Dark Sun shattered land copy lock and you can get the booklet of the game on a website.

I think its a decent game. Its even better in therm of gameplay than Baldur Gate since its not just hack and slash. The only thing that suck are the inconsistencies and the graphic but that cause the game is out-dated and I have no problem with that.

I like some of the map, like the Arena with the big dragon sculpture. The Silt sea with that drake skeleton coming out of the silt. The white statue. The big statue in the lava field. Pretty impressive for 1993.

Also its not just hack and slash, you have trick to resolve and you must use your logic (like the grappling hook to pass the bridge). All problem do not solve with hack & slash like in Baldur gate for exemple.

Its the same for the other SSI AD&D game. I think SSI made the best ad&d game. Too bad they no longer do it.

As for the inconsistencies, there a lot of it.

- Sewer under Draj???? Maybe that work for Tyr,Nibenay,Raam and Urik, but Draj and Gulg are city almost in the wilderness. Draj is in a mudflat and only the two-moon city(templar quarter) are like a real city. The rest is flat building in the field. Well, in my campaign, that sure there no sewer udner Draj and Gulg. And Balic to, but that cause they dump there waste and junk in the Silt canal.

- Sea of silt north of Draj and lava field south of it???? I think the game designer did'nt look at the Athas map before doing this game.

- the people in the village west of Draj say that they have no more Erdlu or Kank to eat (lol).

- The guy who see prophecies is talking about a wolf. There no wolf in Dark Sun.

-Tectutitlay building his pyramid???? Maybe the game is not set in the 190th King Age but long before that.Maybe this explain why the village in the game are not on the Athas map and the land surrounding it is different.

- There some other, just look.
#22
zombiegleemax
Nov 19, 2004 12:09:10
- Sewer under Draj???? Maybe that work for Tyr,Nibenay,Raam and Urik, but Draj and Gulg are city almost in the wilderness. Draj is in a mudflat and only the two-moon city(templar quarter) are like a real city. The rest is flat building in the field. Well, in my campaign, that sure there no sewer udner Draj and Gulg. And Balic to, but that cause they dump there waste and junk in the Silt canal.

I liked that! Sounded fun and curious.. specially because I was not familiarized with DS until I played that game. In fact, I started to like the Setting due to the game.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Nov 13, 2004 22:06:50	I played the two Dark Sun games for computer about 10 years ago, but I never played DSO or Dark Sun PNP. Can anyone list the original materials that were published before Dark Sun 'died'? I would like to purchase some of the old stuff because I don't know a great deal about the Dark Sun campaign setting but I'm very interested in it. Thanks
#2 superpriest Nov 13, 2004 22:53:47	Here's a link listing all TSR's Dark Sun products. http://darksunrising.info/products.html
#3 Pennarin Nov 14, 2004 4:31:40	Also get your hands on the novels by Denning and Abbey since they put everything that you'll find in those boxes and books together in some holistic way that allows you to get the big picture of Dark Sun.
#4 zombiegleemax Nov 14, 2004 6:59:04	I played the two Dark Sun games for computer about 10 years ago, but I never played DSO or Dark Sun PNP. Can anyone list the original materials that were published before Dark Sun 'died'? I would like to purchase some of the old stuff because I don't know a great deal about the Dark Sun campaign setting but I'm very interested in it. Thanks I'm the exact opposite.... I have all the original RPG releases and all the Novels... but Ive never found the computer games.... what were the titles?... is there a link somewhere that has a review or pics of the packaging or some more information in general about the compuetr games?... is there a good place to find them to buy (besides eBay)?.. I figured out PNP means Paper N Pencil right?.... but what does DSO mean tho?
#5 jon_oracle_of_athas Nov 14, 2004 9:13:13	"Shattered Lands" http://www.gamedimension.net/darksun/files/DarkSun.zip "Wake of the Ravager" http://www.gamedimension.net/darksun/files/DarkSun2.zip
#6 jon_oracle_of_athas Nov 14, 2004 9:15:06	DSO = Dark Sun Online
#7 Pennarin Nov 14, 2004 9:19:38	Dark Sun Online I think, not sure if its a PC game or a post-on-the-net game. Like you I never got to play the egames but they look like they suck considering today's standards, but that's because I never played (so don't take my word ;)). Man, is this post of mine about something? Why do I even post... Mach, Kam, Elonarc, please come back, I'm starting to write to myself!!
#8 jon_oracle_of_athas Nov 14, 2004 9:52:31	And if some obscure being claims there is a crossover Dark Sun/Spell Jammer product out there not on that product list, do us all a favor and just pretend you didn't hear.
#9 elonarc Nov 14, 2004 17:34:17	Mach, Kam, Elonarc, please come back, I'm starting to write to myself!! I am quite busy at the moment, but I'll be able do dedicate more time to Dark Sun again in a week or so. But I got my sister interested in drawing Dark Sun pictures, she will hopefully send Jon an email in the near future. And if some obscure being claims there is a crossover Dark Sun/Spell Jammer product out there not on that product list, do us all a favor and just pretend you didn't hear. Golden memories...
#10 zombiegleemax Nov 14, 2004 18:08:13	Thanks for the info. DSO was a PC game. Google it and you can find screen-shots and stuff. There's a group that's working on remaking DSO, too. And actually, the PC games were quite fun. I prefer older games though, so I suppose they're not for everyone.
#11 zombiegleemax Nov 14, 2004 23:55:22	I have Domains of Dread, which is a Ravenloft setting that has Kalidnay's final resting place in it... I also have a xerox of the Spalljammer rules for rules modification for arriving in Athas. But to be honest I think that to mix Athasians in with other settings cheapens it a bit. But that didn't stop me having my players pop over into a neighboring Gothic setting for a spell, it was hilarious! I never defined what actual domain it was, but I made it based on Victorian England with a Jack the Ripper like hystaria, and as soon as the leather-clad Athasian types who were at least head taller than everyone else (except for the halfling) showed up, the PCs basically were running for their lives. The Gladiators plowed through the constables, but when the Police called the military to start shooting, and I had Van Helsing types show up to contain the PCs for scientific investigation, the PCs were so out of their depth with the high technology everyone had that they were running scared thinking everyone was a Magic User... Lots of fun! -BB
#12 zombiegleemax Nov 15, 2004 8:55:10	But that didn't stop me having my players pop over into a neighboring Gothic setting for a spell, it was hilarious! I never defined what actual domain it was, but I made it based on Victorian England with a Jack the Ripper like hystaria there was a Ravenloft setting called Masque of the Red Death that covered alot of such things.... D&D in victorian era.. a couple supplements for it too I think.. (look for it at svgames.com) that sounds great.... Dark Sun makes for a great crossover setting... whether the PCs are coming from or going to Athas (or the NPCs are coming from Athas to whatever world the PCs are in).... its great for crossovers because it is such a stark contrast to any other setting.. I'll make a thread soon about the campaign I currently run... d20 Modern/Urban Arcana crossed over with Dark Sun..
#13 pringles Nov 15, 2004 13:29:30	The shattered land is a good game, but i cant get the sound to work
#14 zombiegleemax Nov 15, 2004 16:38:45	The shattered land is a good game, but i cant get the sound to work I think you need to download the sound files (and the manual) separate from the game files.... check this site that somebody else posted today.. and click the Downloads link.. http://www.darksunworld.com/
#15 pringles Nov 15, 2004 17:33:20	How do we Rest the party? I cant find the button or how to do it.
#16 zombiegleemax Nov 17, 2004 6:45:36	How do we Rest the party? I cant find the button or how to do it. Clik on campfire... a circle of rocks, that can usually be found near settlements. You have one just out of the crop fields, as soon as you enter de white desert and a old man comes to talk to you. near his campsite there is one campfire you can use.
#17 jon_oracle_of_athas Nov 18, 2004 15:16:43	Oh. Don't forget to get the patches for the games. They resolve A LOT of bugs, some that can even prevent you from finishing the game. Unfortunately, there are several patches out there, and I'm uncertain as to which are applicable for the versions of the game in the links I provided above.
#18 pringles Nov 18, 2004 17:09:13	How can we past the copy protection after the sewer? Anyone has the answer to the Dragon?
#19 zombiegleemax Nov 19, 2004 0:45:23	i think the version that has been posted is a hacked version, I think you can type in anything you want. That or find the original game on ebay for $5
#20 zombiegleemax Nov 19, 2004 5:22:19	How can we past the copy protection after the sewer? Anyone has the answer to the Dragon? I think a I have the *.txt file with all the answers, in case you don't manage to get past through the dragon mail me.
#21 pringles Nov 19, 2004 11:56:15	I got it. Just google Dark Sun shattered land copy lock and you can get the booklet of the game on a website. I think its a decent game. Its even better in therm of gameplay than Baldur Gate since its not just hack and slash. The only thing that suck are the inconsistencies and the graphic but that cause the game is out-dated and I have no problem with that. I like some of the map, like the Arena with the big dragon sculpture. The Silt sea with that drake skeleton coming out of the silt. The white statue. The big statue in the lava field. Pretty impressive for 1993. Also its not just hack and slash, you have trick to resolve and you must use your logic (like the grappling hook to pass the bridge). All problem do not solve with hack & slash like in Baldur gate for exemple. Its the same for the other SSI AD&D game. I think SSI made the best ad&d game. Too bad they no longer do it. As for the inconsistencies, there a lot of it. - Sewer under Draj???? Maybe that work for Tyr,Nibenay,Raam and Urik, but Draj and Gulg are city almost in the wilderness. Draj is in a mudflat and only the two-moon city(templar quarter) are like a real city. The rest is flat building in the field. Well, in my campaign, that sure there no sewer udner Draj and Gulg. And Balic to, but that cause they dump there waste and junk in the Silt canal. - Sea of silt north of Draj and lava field south of it???? I think the game designer did'nt look at the Athas map before doing this game. - the people in the village west of Draj say that they have no more Erdlu or Kank to eat (lol). - The guy who see prophecies is talking about a wolf. There no wolf in Dark Sun. -Tectutitlay building his pyramid???? Maybe the game is not set in the 190th King Age but long before that.Maybe this explain why the village in the game are not on the Athas map and the land surrounding it is different. - There some other, just look.
#22 zombiegleemax Nov 19, 2004 12:09:10	- Sewer under Draj???? Maybe that work for Tyr,Nibenay,Raam and Urik, but Draj and Gulg are city almost in the wilderness. Draj is in a mudflat and only the two-moon city(templar quarter) are like a real city. The rest is flat building in the field. Well, in my campaign, that sure there no sewer udner Draj and Gulg. And Balic to, but that cause they dump there waste and junk in the Silt canal. I liked that! Sounded fun and curious.. specially because I was not familiarized with DS until I played that game. In fact, I started to like the Setting due to the game.