The Grey God: With 1 of 4 Now 3

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#1

zombiegleemax

Dec 15, 2004 20:53:54
With 1 of 4, there are now 3.

By now, you have seen the first installment of the quadrate map of the Flanaess, which is being published in Dungeon magazine. By now, you recognize it as a spectacular new addition to each and every Greyhawk fan’s library. By now, you own a copy. If you do not, you must then flee into traffic to join assorted and sundry racoons, deer, skunks, cats, dogs, armadillos and opossums in the used bin. The map is that good.

But something else has occurred of which you may be only peripherally aware. Erik Mona has joined Gary Gygax and Carl Sargent as one of only 3 faces on Greyhawk’s Mt. Rushmoor.

Gygax and Sargent are elite company. Each produced a definitive Greyhawk treatment with accompanying poster maps. Erik Mona has fully earned the right to be numbered with Gygax and Sargent.

Eric has produced the Living Greyhawk Gazateer - with help, but it would be foolish (however, politically correct or expedient) to believe that the LGG would have existed without Mr. Mona. He was the prime mover and the essential individual who saw the LGG take shape. Without him, there would have been no Greyhawk 98, nor LGG. I know this for a fact as I was there. In addition, he has continued to expand the World of Greyhawk through the RPGA, Dungeon and soon Dragon, now that it is under his editorship.

What Eric had not done, heretofore, was produce a definitive visual treatment of the Flanaess to accompany his written materials. The quadrate map completes the process.

It is more than a mere footnote that Mr. Mona did not issue his Greyhawk treatment simultaneously with a poster map. It detracts nothing from his accomplishment but rather makes it the more impressive. Gygax and Sargent enjoyed the support of TSR when their Greyhawk treatments were published. Mr. Mona has had to fight, scheme, inveigle, wheedle and work his posterior off to achieve what he has achieved.

That he did not do it all alone, as Gygax and Sargent did, again speaks to his formidable skills and an ability to work with people to get the job done. Gygax and Sargent were gifted individuals; Erik is both individually gifted but also an able field general in a way neither Sargent nor Gygax were called upon to be.

There are 3, and only 3, Grand Masters of Greyhawk, to wit - Gary Gygax, Carl Sargent and Eric Mona. All hail, Erik Mona!

If you know me or know of me, then you are doubtless aware that it is not my custom to be lavish with praise, the cutting reverse being much more my signature. Certainly, Mr. Mona and I have crossed swords on more than one occasion. Nor do I universally believe that his vision of Greyhawk, in large or small measure, is correct or best. I owe him nothing, except that his able handling of the Greyhawk ship of state now makes it unnecessary for me to make more than occasional public appearances, leaving me time to attend to other matters. In this case, however, there is every cause for lavish praise.

Doubtless, the envious, jealous and green-eyed will find cause to take exception but they are quickly revealed for what they are. Likewise, the sycophantic and self-serving may be upset that they did not first have the opportunity to laud and laurel the object of their obsession, but that too will be patently obvious.

Of course, Mr. Mona’s tenure as the toast of Nellix Town is not over. No final judgment on the merits of what he produces is possible for he continues to labor in Greyhawk’s vineyard. I do not enshrine what he has done, then; that is a different matter (although I am not displeased, in the main). Rather, I enshrine that it is done by his hand, whatever individuals may say on any particular. Credit where credit is due.

With one section of the four part map, where there were two Greyhawk greats, there now stand three. Greyhawk has seen its share of great contributors, professionals and fans, but Greyhawk knows but three who may be said to stand astride the setting like colossi. Gygax, Sargent and, now, Mona. Let there be no mistaking this.

It is my privilege to have labored on behalf of Greyhawk with Mr. Mona for over a decade now, even if we do not always see eye-to-eye and even if he has not always been aware that I was on the other oar. I look forward to our continued association. The praise, however, is not mine but his. The achievement is his. This day, I joyfully take my hat off to Erik Mona and bow low. If any of you have any perception and good grace, you will similarly comport yourselves.

You may then return to carping at Erik as to why he hasn’t published the definitive guide to Ull, how he can possibly believe that Rary has discovered (and attached) the Hand of Vecna and why he hasn’t responded to your article submission concerning your fabulous 39th level dwarven barbarian/wizard were-turtle. Tell Erik about your character or adventures, or post a question to him; he can’t get enough of it.

NightScreed

("Flaming" is a violation of the [i]WotC Online Code of Conduct[/i] and will *not* be tolerated on the WotC Forums.)
#2

Yeoman

Dec 16, 2004 4:13:08
That Eric Mona has achieved much in keeping the Greyhawk flag flying, particularly among the wider gaming community as opposed to just this setting's fan base cannot be denied. That he has worked with many others to secure this - ditto.

What makes the achievement noteworthy is that it has happened in the face of such indifference to the setting by WOTC. Without the support that Gygax, Sargent, Moore et al enjoyed is testimony to Eric's perseverance and vision. Don't misunderstand me, there is a very dedicated fan base that has worked on keeping the setting alive over the years, albeit 'underground', but the path trodden by EM cannot have been the easiest one. Doubtless there could have been more rewarding and potentially easier projects to back...

Before I place Eric in the Pantheon that befits the likes of some of the setting's previous authors, I would like to see the Greyhawk potential, so eloquently laid out by Eric in a recent posting here, come to pass.

The vision laid out was exciting, aspirational and engaging. Yes I am aware that Eric stated there were no plans to realise this vision yet, but it cannot be doubted that he has the greatest chance of turning it into reality.

I have no doubt that there is a fan base (growing due to the strategy in Dungeon) more united than for many years willing to get behind such a project to make it happen, in any way possible. I for one applaud Eric's commitment to publishing the setting and look forward to joining any efforts to make the dream a reality.
:invasion:

Eamus, O!
#3

zombiegleemax

Dec 16, 2004 7:28:35
I would not include Sargent. That he was paid to write for the setting is a fact. That he ever really understood what makes it great is debatable.
#4

zombiegleemax

Dec 16, 2004 9:32:51
And so the 375,866,745th Great Flame War of Greyhawk began, as the Grognards of the Great Gygax once more crossed swords with the Supplicants of the Supreme Sargent....

This is an old topic - please don't waste bandwidth. You don't like Sargent - fine. Other people do - fine. Let's just agree to disagree.

P.
One of the SSS if you must know.
#5

zombiegleemax

Dec 16, 2004 9:35:01
Let’s all shake hands and chalk this one up to me being a dirty rotten scoundrel.

I'll skip the former and agree to the latter.

I would not include Sargent. That he was paid to write for the setting is a fact. That he ever really understood what makes it great is debatable.

Sargent is a Greyhawkian Pimp.
#6

grodog

Dec 16, 2004 12:10:09
Before I place Eric in the Pantheon that befits the likes of some of the setting's previous authors, I would like to see the Greyhawk potential, so eloquently laid out by Eric in a recent posting here, come to pass.

Hmmm, I missed that post. Anyone have a pointer?
#7

thanael

Dec 16, 2004 13:56:36
Grodog, i think he`s referring to this thread:
http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=344413
#8

Halberkill

Dec 16, 2004 15:23:09
I like Erik. He sent me some greyhawk related photocopies once. What a nice boy.

Erik, so when are you going to insert Anom Kire into the Greyhawk campaign like so many greats have before you?

Halber
#9

zombiegleemax

Dec 16, 2004 16:16:14
I was thinking "Eerie Kamona!"
#10

Amaril

Jan 04, 2005 14:58:11
Can you take this to PM or email please? Thanks.
#11

chatdemon

Jan 04, 2005 15:12:50
Can you take this to PM or email please? Thanks.

No, I can't.

I won't stand by and be publicly attacked, especially in such a meanspirited way. I've tried reporting this clown's antics to the WizO gang before, to no avail, so sadly, until one or both of us are told to leave, as long as he continues the unprovoked personal attacks, yall will have to witness my response.
#12

wizo_sith

Jan 04, 2005 19:57:33
Sorry folks, but this thread's too flamey to be allowed to live.

*Click*

[edit]Egad! How mortifyingly embarrasing, I meant to lock this, not make it sticky - Fixed[/edit]