Help Erik Mona: Iggwilv

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#1

erik_mona

Jan 04, 2005 14:37:32
Folks,

I need a physical description of Iggwilv, but left my "Return of the Eight" at home. Can someone please provide a physical description of Iggwilv as presented in that adventure? I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks,

Erik Mona
Editor-in-Chief
Dragon & Dungeon
#2

chatdemon

Jan 04, 2005 15:02:50
Can someone please provide a physical description of Iggwilv as presented in that adventure? I'd really appreciate it.

Rot8 isn't much help here, all it says is, quote:

"Even her physical appearance is in dispute, with descriptions
ranging from a ravishing beauty to a bald, hideous crone."

Maybe someone knows of another source with a more specific description?
#3

chatdemon

Jan 04, 2005 15:07:48
Also, Erik, I quickly scanned the image of Iggy given with her entry in the NPC appendix to the adventure. If you want that, AIM me (chatdemonrich).
#4

erik_mona

Jan 04, 2005 16:02:29
Thanks, Rich.

I seem to remember that Iggwilv makes a cameo in a scene in the adventure, appearing in a puff of smoke or something, saying something pithy to the adventurers, and taking off. It's either in an early scene with Warnes Starcoat or in a later scene on the moon, with the dretch Tenser (ugh) and "Jay."

Any chance you could give it another look?

Thanks,

Erik
#5

zombiegleemax

Jan 04, 2005 16:30:10
She makes an appearance at the end, but I don't know if they provide a description since I don't have the adventure handy. I seem to remember her in crone form though. If all else fails, I can get the Gord series description.
Scott
#6

nightdruid

Jan 04, 2005 16:44:16
page 52, second column:

A flask of lightnin gand an enormous crash of thunder immediately overhead startle you. The magical symbols on the courtyard flare, and a pillar of colored light fomrs, sparking the whet leaves of the surrouding forest with a thousand reflections. A figure steps from the pillar: a slight woman with long, black hair and golden skin. Her geyes are black pools with no irises or whte. She is dressed in a dark gray robe with a hood. She bears no weapons.

She soundlessly looks you over and her lips curl with a comtemptuous smile.

(Hmmm, she sounds almost Bakluni to me)

There's also a picture of her on page 55; she is the first NPC in the chapter of the same name. Looks like she's a woman of indescriminate age with tatoos on her face (a spiral on her forehead (tharizdun?), "S" like tatoos starting on her eyes & go down her cheeks, and a long, thin, triangular tatoo that splits her face in two, like a dagger down her face). She's a bit hunched over her son, Iuz, and behind his throne (hard to see her). She has long, claw-like fingernails and long, thin fingers.

That help?
#7

zombiegleemax

Jan 04, 2005 16:44:40
I suppose one could infer quite a bit of Iggwilv's appearance from her daughter, Drelzna if only because of genetics. Not sure if there is a description in the module but I loved that Elmore pen and ink drawing.
#8

erik_mona

Jan 04, 2005 16:49:08
Ha!

Got it!

For posterity:

"A figure steps from the pillar: a slight woman with long, black hair and golden skin. Her eyes are black pools with no irises or white. She is dressed in a dark gray robe with a hood. She bears no weapons." (Return of the Eight, p. 52)

Thanks, everyone!

--Erik (who keeps forgetting important books at home)
#9

erik_mona

Jan 04, 2005 16:50:20
>>>
That help?
>>>

Yes, but you were slow by about 10 minutes! Thanks for looking that up, though, Nightdruid!

--Erik
#10

nightdruid

Jan 04, 2005 16:55:27
>>>
That help?
>>>

Yes, but you were slow by about 10 minutes! Thanks for looking that up, though, Nightdruid!

--Erik

Sorry, could only drive so fast through the nasty rain we've got here in Missouri! Plus it took me a few minutes to look it up; it wasn't easy to find. The adventure's conclusion was sorta "huh?", which had me hunting elsewhere because it was sorta lame. I eventually found the boxed text after a bit of hunting.
#11

zombiegleemax

Jan 05, 2005 3:27:50
I suppose one could infer quite a bit of Iggwilv's appearance from her daughter, Drelzna if only because of genetics. Not sure if there is a description in the module but I loved that Elmore pen and ink drawing.

Link please?
#12

thanael

Jan 05, 2005 6:17:00
Well it`s not the pic itself but Grodogs analysis of S4 includes a description of the illustration in that adventure. (under personages: iggwilv)

http://www.greyhawkonline.com/grodog/gh_s4.html#iggwilv

I`m not sure if that`s what he means though...

Here`s a link to the description in the Gord books:
http://home.comcast.net/~chris.s/iuz.html#iggwilv
#13

zombiegleemax

Jan 05, 2005 10:23:38
Yes, I was talking about the center of the Lost Caverns, where Iggwilv's daughter is "entombed".

Excellent picture, I hadn't really thought of Iggwilv as Baklunish but it certainly makes sense. Especially considering she has Dauod's Lanthorn.
#14

nightdruid

Jan 05, 2005 10:52:05
Excellent picture, I hadn't really thought of Iggwilv as Baklunish but it certainly makes sense. Especially considering she has Dauod's Lanthorn.

Me neither, but black hair & eyes, and golden skin sounds bakluni to me
#15

Halberkill

Jan 07, 2005 22:45:25
Wasn't there also a picture if Iggy in the WG7 Castle Greyhawk module?

Halber
#16

zombiegleemax

Jan 08, 2005 9:19:50
WG7!?

::Throws Tomatoes::
#17

pauln6

Jan 10, 2005 7:31:15
In the Gord books, Iggwilv appeared as a either a dark-haired beauty or an old crone, depending on her mood.

I think her history has her as a Ketite, who are a racial mix, with Baklunish being the predominant racial type. So I would say she looks largely Baklunish, probably with lighter skin than the norm.

In addition, she trained in necromancy with the Zashassir of Ekbir, and emerged as a 'Mistress of the Rites' which adds further credence to this theory.

Drelzna's father was Lerrek, and I can't remember whether he was a Ketite, a Perrender, or a native of a nation further south. He would most likely be predominantly Baklunish or Flannish, so Drelzna would have had similar coloration I suppose. I think he worshipped Erythnul, but can't recall if he has any racial connections.
#18

thanael

Jan 10, 2005 16:30:03
In the Gord books, Iggwilv appeared as a either a dark-haired beauty or an old crone, depending on her mood.

I think her history has her as a Ketite, who are a racial mix, with Baklunish being the predominant racial type. So I would say she looks largely Baklunish, probably with lighter skin than the norm.

In addition, she trained in necromancy with the Zashassir of Ekbir, and emerged as a 'Mistress of the Rites' which adds further credence to this theory.

Where does this info come from? Sources please...


Drelzna's father was Lerrek, and I can't remember whether he was a Ketite, a Perrender, or a native of a nation further south. He would most likely be predominantly Baklunish or Flannish, so Drelzna would have had similar coloration I suppose. I think he worshipped Erythnul, but can't recall if he has any racial connections.

The Lerrek connection is from Oerth Journal 13 "Lerrek's Tale" AFAIK. Haven`t read it in a while though...
#19

eric_anondson

Jan 10, 2005 23:21:45
Originally Posted by pauln6
In the Gord books... [snip]

Where does this info come from? Sources please...

Uh, I may be going out on a limb. But I think the source is the, uh, Gord books?

;)

FWIW, I also seem to recall that Iggwilv makes an appearance in Gygax's Gord books.


Regards,
Eric Anondson
#20

Yeoman

Jan 11, 2005 0:33:06
Book 2 pg 328.......
#21

pauln6

Jan 11, 2005 5:34:53
The Zashaasr reference is from the Oerth Journal article on Sorcerous Societies of the Flanaess - not cannon per se, but many of the societies mentioned have been adopted in official modules.

The LGG Ekbir site also has a section of the Zashassar but it's in French , so I'm not sure what new info is in there. I do need to translate it sooner or later, so if there are any volunteers out there...
#22

gadodel

Jan 14, 2005 18:49:47
Geez, Erik; now you are asking us to help you out with some chick?

Maybe you should stick with D&D.

:P