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#1 darthsylver Jan 07, 2005 19:47:42	If a wizard\sorceror has a familiar and takes levels in a prestige class that improves the wizard\sorceror's spellcasting level does this also improve the familiar's abilities? If not, why? Opinions and official stuff would be appreciated. Thanks.
#2 Dragonhelm Jan 07, 2005 20:36:30	If a wizard\sorceror has a familiar and takes levels in a prestige class that improves the wizard\sorceror's spellcasting level does this also improve the familiar's abilities? If not, why? The familiar abilities do not improve as you take on a prestige class. It's sort of a balancing factor.
#3 zombiegleemax Jan 08, 2005 13:35:47	Unless the Prestige Class specifically states otherwise.
#4 darthsylver Jan 08, 2005 18:58:09	Does anyone know of any PrC that does increase a familiar's abilties? Cause I ain't seen one yet that does.
#5 zombiegleemax Jan 10, 2005 15:09:32	On a flavor note, are there any historical DL wizards that even had familiars? I can't think of any and have been mulling over replacing a wizards familiar with something else while leaving it on the sorceror.
#6 talinthas Jan 10, 2005 15:21:05	remember Legends? When Tas puts on the ring that turned him into a mouse, the wizard there thought he was a familiar. There is precedence for such a thing.
#7 zombiegleemax Jan 10, 2005 15:39:20	Huh, don't recall that one, I'll have to reread it. Whoops.
#8 cam_banks Jan 10, 2005 16:13:19	remember Legends? When Tas puts on the ring that turned him into a mouse, the wizard there thought he was a familiar. There is precedence for such a thing. That just means people know what they are, not that any of them have one. Spend your 100 steel on something else, that's what I always say. Cheers, Cam
#9 darthsylver Jan 10, 2005 18:45:46	Guerrand from defenders of magic had one, a sea gull if I recall correctly. He was also the first White Robe assigned to the Lost Sentinel. I need an opinion on a feat in Complete Arcane. It is called "Obtain Familiar" on page 81. What I would like to know is 1 - Does this feat grant a second familiar to those who already possess the ability to call a familiar, and 2 - Does this feat increase the abilities of a pre-existing familiar.
#10 shugi Jan 10, 2005 20:20:34	One-Eyed Kate in DoSF had a raven familiar, if you're looking for a specific example. I need an opinion on a feat in Complete Arcane. It is called "Obtain Familiar" on page 81. What I would like to know is 1 - Does this feat grant a second familiar to those who already possess the ability to call a familiar, and 2 - Does this feat increase the abilities of a pre-existing familiar. If your first familiar was NOT gained by virtue of you being a sorcerer or wizard, then you could get a second familiar by the rules as written. However, the feat wouldn't increase an existing familiar's abilities. You could make a new feat for that, though. Also, you can't take the feat twice to get two familiars.
#11 Nived Jan 10, 2005 20:32:15	The Rogue/Wizard/Spellfiltch in my group insisted on having a familiar even though he has a minimal number of pure Wiz levels that 'count' for it. A wisecracking raven named "Jim" after Jim Warfield, the excentric propriator of the legendary (at least in Northen Illinois and the surrounding area) Raven's Grin Inn. I don't think he's actually 'used' it for a single thing, but its lead to some good RP.
#12 zombiegleemax Jan 10, 2005 23:17:54	Guerrand from defenders of magic had one, a sea gull if I recall correctly. He was also the first White Robe assigned to the Lost Sentinel. I dunno if it is the same Guerrand, but there is a red robe by that name in Night of the Eye who had a Sea Gull fammiliar...I think Zagarus is it's name. I need an opinion on a feat in Complete Arcane. It is called "Obtain Familiar" on page 81. What I would like to know is 1 - Does this feat grant a second familiar to those who already possess the ability to call a familiar, and 2 - Does this feat increase the abilities of a pre-existing familiar. Well, since having two familiars doesn't fit [flavor wise] I'd say the levels stacked....but by the written rules, you could gain two familiars through this feat.
#13 darthsylver Jan 11, 2005 6:42:31	It is the same Guerrand but I thought he was a White robe. Oh well, I have been wrong before.
#14 jonesy Jan 11, 2005 8:49:14	Guerrand was indeed a red robe, and his familiar Zagarus the seagull. remember Legends? When Tas puts on the ring that turned him into a mouse, the wizard there thought he was a familiar. There is precedence for such a thing. That just means people know what they are, not that any of them have one. Spend your 100 steel on something else, that's what I always say. That very same instance has the wizard warn Tasslehoff of Marigold, a familiar of another wizard.