Questions about the DL timeline.

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#1

zombiegleemax

Jan 10, 2005 11:09:07
Ok,

The following questions are related to the DragonLance game I am currently running: I would like to know what year, and exact date(as in month), did the novel The Wizards' Conclave occur in ? When did the Night of the Eye occur in this novel ?

Again, This question is related to certain events in my DragonLance game.

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#2

cam_banks

Jan 10, 2005 11:12:54
I can tell you that there isn't supposed to be a Night of the Eye any time soon in the course of the events of the Age of Mortals campaign adventures. In other words, one shouldn't show up during the course of your game.

As to when Wizard's Conclave is set - I really wish I knew that, but my guess is either shortly before Key of Destiny (i.e. 5-6 months after War of Souls) or, more likely, a year after the War of Souls. Coryn's grandmother seems to indicate the latter.

Cheers,
Cam
#3

zombiegleemax

Jan 10, 2005 11:26:56
I can tell you that there isn't supposed to be a Night of the Eye any time soon in the course of the events of the Age of Mortals campaign adventures. In other words, one shouldn't show up during the course of your game.

As to when Wizard's Conclave is set - I really wish I knew that, but my guess is either shortly before Key of Destiny (i.e. 5-6 months after War of Souls) or, more likely, a year after the War of Souls. Coryn's grandmother seems to indicate the latter.

Thanks Cam,

I was definitely about to have the NotE occur during the AoM campaign. So, the AoM campaign modules should be concluded before a year(After the WoS) has elapsed ?

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#4

cam_banks

Jan 10, 2005 12:00:15
Thanks Cam,

I was definitely about to have the NotE occur during the AoM campaign. So, the AoM campaign modules should be concluded before a year(After the WoS) has elapsed ?

It's too early to say for sure, but I don't think KoD plus SoS = 6 months, unless you give the heroes a lot of downtime. It could happen, though!

Cheers,
Cam
#5

frostdawn

Jan 10, 2005 13:51:29
I can tell you that there isn't supposed to be a Night of the Eye any time soon in the course of the events of the Age of Mortals campaign adventures. In other words, one shouldn't show up during the course of your game.

As to when Wizard's Conclave is set - I really wish I knew that, but my guess is either shortly before Key of Destiny (i.e. 5-6 months after War of Souls) or, more likely, a year after the War of Souls. Coryn's grandmother seems to indicate the latter.

Cheers,
Cam

But is Zoe left hand in Ak-Khurman conducting tests for the WoHS on her own volition, or is that mandated by the Order? If she's doing it on her own, that's kinda impressive for her (for purposes of determination and/or resources). If she's doing it for the Order (more likely IMHO), then wouldn't that suggest that the events of the Wizard's Conclave happen before the onset of KoD?

Storywise, I would think that an organized Order would be more interesting anywho, as the good old peer pressure for renegades to become wizards can become a nice side plot in the midst of the adventure, albeit without the urgency of past ages when the Order had the resources to send out enforcers.
#6

cam_banks

Jan 10, 2005 14:32:18
But is Zoe left hand in Ak-Khurman conducting tests for the WoHS on her own volition, or is that mandated by the Order? If she's doing it on her own, that's kinda impressive for her (for purposes of determination and/or resources). If she's doing it for the Order (more likely IMHO), then wouldn't that suggest that the events of the Wizard's Conclave happen before the onset of KoD?

She's at least been contacted by Jenna, who more than likely encouraged her to make an attempt at conducting the Test while the Orders were in a state of disarray. Possibly, wizards who pass the Test at this time are the forerunners of those who in later months will travel to the newly-opened Tower at Wayreth. It's difficult to say - for the purposes of the story, I usually assume the Orders are not at their full strength, and that the events of Wizard's Conclave certainly don't affect or change that whether it happens before or after KoD.

Cheers,
Cam
#7

frostdawn

Jan 10, 2005 17:23:24
She's at least been contacted by Jenna, who more than likely encouraged her to make an attempt at conducting the Test while the Orders were in a state of disarray. Possibly, wizards who pass the Test at this time are the forerunners of those who in later months will travel to the newly-opened Tower at Wayreth. It's difficult to say - for the purposes of the story, I usually assume the Orders are not at their full strength, and that the events of Wizard's Conclave certainly don't affect or change that whether it happens before or after KoD.

Cheers,
Cam

Gotcha. Coolio, thanx Cam
#8

zombiegleemax

Jan 11, 2005 8:52:57
Going off-opic here, but it's kind of related. When Takhisis stole the world she obviously removed it fro it's protective bubble and was therefore accessible to outside forces and intervention. When the gods found Krynn again, did they move the world back or did they move the protective bubble? If the moved the bubble what affect, if any, does that have on the cosmology of Krynn. The major constellations are going to be the same, minus Takhisis and Paladine, but are we going to see anything new, like new constellations or comets? If they moved Krynn back they no harm, no foul correct?
#9

cam_banks

Jan 11, 2005 9:25:18
The gods recreated the entire planar bubble around Krynn, bringing all of creation back with them. So,there's another Krynnish planar bubble somewhere out there, without a Krynn in it.

Cheers,
Cam
#10

Dragonhelm

Jan 11, 2005 9:47:56
The world of Krynn has been moved to a new place in the universe, where it orbits a different sun than before. While the constellations may be the same constellations of old (minus Paladine and Takhisis), they are made of new stars. I'm presuming the moons were somehow moved, as well as the planets.

From a Spelljammer perspective, Krynn would have been moved to a different crystal sphere.

Check out my Krynnspace guide for more information.
#11

brimstone

Jan 11, 2005 14:05:57
Check out my Krynnspace guide for more information.

Well, if you're going to throw in Krynnspace, then the question needs to be expanded. Are the moons and planets of the post-WoS 5th Age the same moons and planets of pre-5th Age Dragonlance? Or, did the gods just create new moons/planets to represent them in the sky?

I'm thinking all the constellation stars, the three moons, and the 5 planets are all new...so somewhere there is a Krynnsphere with the old planets and moons but no Krynn. That's just my thought, though.
#12

zombiegleemax

Jan 12, 2005 7:24:27
I been trying to continue the timeline after 38SC as I read the novels. Haven't read ALL the novels, and I don't have full list with me, but here's something. Most happenings in the newest novels seem to happen in 39SC, but can't be sure.

Example possibility: Like in Amber&Ashes it's been year from WoS when Mina meets Chemosh, but later when she is Chemosh priestess it's spring-festival. So one possibility is that Mina would meet Chemosh about autumn of 39SC and goes to Staughton in spring 40SC...

39SC
Winter (1st and 2nd months)
- Wizards Conclave (Coryn probably starts her journey to Palanthas)
- Age of Mortals campaign begins
- Dark Thane (part of it)
Spring (3rd to 5th months)
- Wizards Conclave (most of the happenings and Night of the Eye)
- Amber & Ashes (Beginning)
Summer (6th to 8th months)
- Amber & Ashes (most of the book)
- Dark Thane (half of the book)
Autumn (9th to 11th months)
- Lake of Death
Winter (12th month)
#13

Dragonhelm

Jan 12, 2005 13:13:05
Well, if you're going to throw in Krynnspace, then the question needs to be expanded. Are the moons and planets of the post-WoS 5th Age the same moons and planets of pre-5th Age Dragonlance? Or, did the gods just create new moons/planets to represent them in the sky?

I'm thinking all the constellation stars, the three moons, and the 5 planets are all new...so somewhere there is a Krynnsphere with the old planets and moons but no Krynn. That's just my thought, though.

We already know that the sun and stars are new. This is already established in War of Souls.

I once asked Margaret about the planets, but didn't really get a definitive answer. I want to say she thought the planets were new, but I don't recall.

The thing one has to remember is that it took a good portion of Takhisis' energy to move Krynn alone, and then to shield it from the eyes of the other gods, especially Zivilyn. Imagine the power it would take to move the entire solar system.

The way War of Souls reads, it almost hints that the moons are the old moons, but I can't say for a certainty.

I could take a guess and say that the moons were moved, and easier, as they don't contain life, aren't being hidden, and are tied to Krynn. Perhaps it's easier to use arcane magic to move the moons.

There's any number of ways a person could go on this. What we know is that the stars and sun are new. What we don't know is whether the moons or planets are new.