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#1 zemobiel Feb 01, 2005 16:52:00	Hello all, i was thinking a bout something in the last few day and i would want to intergrates the drow in a Ravenloft campaings, but i dont have any informations about this spacies on ravenloft, does some of you have info on thats?
#2 zombiegleemax Feb 01, 2005 18:49:26	Drow existed in Ravenloft in the original Black Box and Red Box editions in the Core domain of Arak. They and their domain disappeared during the Grand Conjunction, and their land was assimilated into Darkon. The beings descended from Arak are now back in Ravenloft as the Shadow Fey of the Shadow Rift. Translated into imperfect OOC Common, Drow were never percieved as being 'gothic' enough for most people's taste (same goes for the orcs formerly in Mordent) and were replaced to refine the setting ('Duplicate' domains were also trimmed at that time as well - Gundarak, Arkandale, Dorvinia, Sanguinia, etc.). Of course, you are always free to have whatever you and your players want in your setting. I would recommend that you give Van Richtens Guide to The Shadow Fey a lookover.
#3 zemobiel Feb 01, 2005 19:20:33	thanks a lot, I will look for thats
#4 bluebomber4evr Feb 02, 2005 21:37:36	There was also the problem with coming up with a reason for the drow being there...I mean, think about it: the drow of Oerth and Toril are some of the most wicked, despicable beings in the D&D universe....so what could any drow do that would be horrible enough to grant them a domain in Ravenloft? Not much, when you get right down to it. The mind flayers probably would have been removed along with the drow except that TSR had just published the adventure module, "Thoughts of Darkness," which was set in the mind flayers' domain, so removing them from the setting would have made the recently published module useless. As for Arak, it was revealed in the supermodule "The Shadow Rift" that it was always populated by the shadow fey, though their culture was tainted by the influence of three outlander drow who stumbled upon the shadow fey shortly after arriving in Ravenloft. This taint was finally removed when Loht staked Tristessa to the surface.
#5 The_Jester Feb 03, 2005 1:59:49	Drow are also the same kind of cartoony evil as most of the Realms villians, whole societies that are immoral and corrupt and take pleasure in the suffering of others. The purposless evil that acts just for heroes to stop but has little real motive, personality or realism. Inhuman evil for the sake of evil... The drow might work best in an underground domain but probably not as the darklord. It might be interesting to have this underground land below the Core with the evils below plaguing the surface and stealing humans as slaves.
#6 zombiegleemax Feb 03, 2005 6:32:31	I still have a few Drow within Ravenloft - mostly serving in the Kargat as mid ranking officers and assasins. Typically a magic illusion makes them look human. Someone like Malken would hire one to dog the adventurers who have escaped his cluthes. An underdark realm also seems to have some appeal..
#7 malus_black Feb 03, 2005 8:43:13	Just for the record, the leader of the Dark Delvers, Xaktos S'kryll, is a drow.
#8 zemobiel Feb 03, 2005 9:34:11	thanks all all this is really appreacite
#9 zombiegleemax Feb 03, 2005 17:25:06	Well in my campaign the shadow rift is populated by drows... they are only cursed elves who have been cursed by dark skins, and a sun weakness(a true one! When the sunlight hit them, they start to melt...).
#10 zombiegleemax Feb 04, 2005 11:58:54	Also, the family backing the String Merchant's Guild around Matira Bay are Drow.
#11 zombiegleemax Feb 04, 2005 12:34:37	A good way to have Drows (and Duergar or Derros for that matter) is to use them as Elven (or Dwarvish) calidans. They shun daylight and nature and have strange powers (I suggest replacing the current drow spell-like abilities with darker spells).
#12 zemobiel Feb 04, 2005 12:50:37	darker spells? what do you mean?
#13 scipion_emilien Feb 04, 2005 16:47:50	Look in your PHB for darkness into the spell description. Drow of faerun can cast darkness one (or two didn t remember) time by day without having a single lvl of mage or sorcerer.
#14 zemobiel Feb 04, 2005 17:45:31	yes i know that one time by day more feary fire and dancing light, but Charney ask to change her spells like abylities by darker spells , so put away darkness, dancing light and faery fire for other spells more darker and i want to know what he means
#15 zombiegleemax Feb 04, 2005 19:54:41	Well I meant replacing Faerie Fire and Dancing Lights and maybe even Darkness with... Mmm. Well depends on what you want. If the caliban drow was the result of necromantic magic, maybe have him cast ghoul or chill touch. I really didn't have any specific ideas in mind. Just some spells that would make the elves cast out such abomination.
#16 zemobiel Feb 04, 2005 20:19:04	i see, i will think about it
#17 zombiegleemax Feb 16, 2005 15:46:24	At one point I had outlined a homebrew Drow domain for RL called Arak-zynge (roughly-Ruins of Arak). It had appeared just after the original underground of Arak was shifted into becoming the Shadow Rift. Anywho, the domain was ruled by a drider that had gone very insane, to the point that she had actually believed she WAS Lolth, Demon Queen of Spiders.
#18 zemobiel Feb 17, 2005 7:13:46	lol, very interesting, a drider who think she was Lolth, pretty intersting