Bonus Game Material - Characters From Weasel's Luck

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#1

Dragonhelm

Feb 19, 2005 18:01:12
I know everyone has wanted some bonus game materials, and we aim to please.

Dragonlance.com has just posted stats for the characters of Weasel's Luck.

Enjoy!
#2

zombiegleemax

Feb 19, 2005 22:04:05
While I think its really cool that someone made stats for the characters, I find them to be way off in some respects.

Bayard Brightblade:
Alignment is commonly misunderstood among DnD players. If a Ranger is chaotic good, that doesn't mean that they feel they are above law and order but are still good - it can also mean that they are good minded characters that feel that dislike society and such organization. Chaotic characters are commonly lone wolves. Due to many actions of Bayard in the book, one could argue that he is truly Neutral Good. Or maybe he's just a Bitter Lawful Good guy. ;)
Equpment: He also has a lance...unless he finagled one from Di Caela. If he had one, he probably put it on the pack mare.

Benedict di Caela:
Stats: A wisdom of nine? you've got to be kidding me. You try living over a hundred years and learn less than a common person

Galen Pathwarden:
Class: I might even give him a higher level as a Rogue
Stats: Strength fourteen seems too high, twelve would seem more reasonable. An intellegence of eleven does not portray the quick mind they describe him as having. Rather, he should have thirteen at least, we see him do some pretty crafty fast-talking at many points in the book.
Description: Galen has red hair. It says so in the book multiple times (He, his father and eldest brother all have red hair) and all of the cover art shows him with red hair.

Other than that, it looks pretty good.
#3

wolffenjugend_dup

Feb 20, 2005 9:33:07
LOL! Ah yes, the age old dilemma of giving people what they want, only to be met with critiques.

Thanks for the bonus materials!
#4

Dragonhelm

Feb 20, 2005 9:42:15
LOL! Ah yes, the age old dilemma of giving people what they want, only to be met with critiques.

;)

Thanks for the bonus materials!

No prob.
#5

true_blue

Feb 20, 2005 17:59:35
Well, if you asked someone for a miniature of a Black Dragon, and they gave you one painted red, but with black poke-a-dots, wouldnt you say something to them?

Pointing out things that you dont think are right doesnt necessarily need to be all bad. I like to point out things that i think are wrong in hopes maybe they will do things a little different the next time. If all you do is agree with everything that is given to you, even if you dont like it, just means the people think they are doing everything right. He wasnt mean about it, just pointed out a few things. Which are also his opinion.

Everyone is glad for more bonus material. Personally I havent read those novels in so long, so I cant really comment.

I just would hate to see something like pointing out things you think are wrong, as seen as..well wrong. Those are the main times I write in is pointing out something and wondering if there was an explanation. Most people dont get nasty or violent.
#6

zombiegleemax

Feb 20, 2005 18:03:33
...and the good thing about it is it's all digital information... so, in effect, they could read these comments and adjust their article immediately!

Stat changes are a matter for discussion but the Red Hair thing could be changed I guess...

I will say one thing:
Benedict di Caela:
Stats: A wisdom of nine? you've got to be kidding me. You try living over a hundred years and learn less than a common person

People who have lived longer than others don't necessarily aquire more wisdom. My grandad's a living example.
#7

wolffenjugend_dup

Feb 20, 2005 20:34:11
Well, if you asked someone for a miniature of a Black Dragon, and they gave you one painted red, but with black poke-a-dots, wouldnt you say something to them?

Sure. But not until after I'd sincerely thanked them for making the effort. A simple common courtesy that a heck of a lot of people don't seem to grasp.

Just my .02 cents.
#8

zombiegleemax

Feb 20, 2005 20:42:55
Yeah, okay, I guess you beat me on the wisdom thing. I'm still stuck in AD&D, which is why I percieve wisdom in a slightly different fashion.

And yes, there will always be constructive criticism, it's what makes things better!
#9

true_blue

Feb 20, 2005 22:50:41
Um.. to start his thread he said:

"While I think its really cool that someone made stats for the characters, I find them to be way off in some respects."

While not exactly a full blown Thank You, it still shows respect and, to me, shows that hes just not attacking them. He says that it is cool and that shows he's appreciative of them doing bonus material. I dunno, maybe we read into things differently. Its all good.
#10

myriddian

Feb 21, 2005 6:44:49
To start I would like to say thanks, awesome job!

While I think its really cool that someone made stats for the characters, I find them to be way off in some respects.

Bayard Brightblade:
Alignment is commonly misunderstood among DnD players. If a Ranger is chaotic good, that doesn't mean that they feel they are above law and order but are still good - it can also mean that they are good minded characters that feel that dislike society and such organization. Chaotic characters are commonly lone wolves. Due to many actions of Bayard in the book, one could argue that he is truly Neutral Good. Or maybe he's just a Bitter Lawful Good guy. ;)
Equpment: He also has a lance...unless he finagled one from Di Caela. If he had one, he probably put it on the pack mare.



Bayard is without a doubt Lawful Good, just because he bent rules, mainly whilst tolerating/guiding Weasel doesn't mean he should Neutral Good. Alignment is too often a hard straight rule for some people and not the guideline it in reality is.

Benedict di Caela:
Stats: A wisdom of nine? you've got to be kidding me. You try living over a hundred years and learn less than a common person



Actually his wisdom is perfect like it is, remember Bene kept losing and dying to the di Caela's, he could scheme well (Intelligence) but failed at implementing the plans through lack of common sense (lack of Wisdom).

Galen Pathwarden:
Class: I might even give him a higher level as a Rogue
Stats: Strength fourteen seems too high, twelve would seem more reasonable. An intellegence of eleven does not portray the quick mind they describe him as having. Rather, he should have thirteen at least, we see him do some pretty crafty fast-talking at many points in the book.
Description: Galen has red hair. It says so in the book multiple times (He, his father and eldest brother all have red hair) and all of the cover art shows him with red hair.

Other than that, it looks pretty good.

Your correct about the hair at least....
#11

zombiegleemax

Feb 21, 2005 8:26:00
Well, as long as I provided something of use from my corrections.

So change that hair and give some consideration to the other parts I mentioned. Even if you ignore them, I atleast gave my opinion. I really should have posted to bear in mind that I hadn't read the novel in a while.
#12

Dragonhelm

Feb 21, 2005 12:23:53
Got the hair color changed and we'll consider the other suggestions.

Thanks for pointing that out.
#13

shugi

Feb 21, 2005 17:22:53
Just thought I'd touch on Lost_Heretic's points briefly:

Due to many actions of Bayard in the book, one could argue that he is truly Neutral Good. Or maybe he's just a Bitter Lawful Good guy. ;)

One could make that argument - but bending a law (or laws) doesn't necessarily prevent you from being Lawful. Indeed, that's what many Lawful Evil personalities would do... twist existing laws for their own benefit. Not that Bayard is Lawful Evil, of course. To use an older description, Bayard could be Lawful Good with Neutral Good tendencies.

Equpment: He also has a lance...unless he finagled one from Di Caela. If he had one, he probably put it on the pack mare.

This could have gone both ways, but Bayard was never described as personally having or using a lance. His standard, you may recall, was a shield. While it's reasonable to assume that he could have been carrying one (he was on his way to a joust after all), it's a fairly common practice for lances to be provided for the participants. In addition, I felt that if Bayard did possess lances, he certainly would have used some of them against the ogre after his previous drubbings.

Benedict di Caela:
Stats: A wisdom of nine? you've got to be kidding me. You try living over a hundred years and learn less than a common person

Myriddian addressed my main point, but Benedict actually hadn't lived too long. Every time he was "killed", he would stay dead for decades.

Galen Pathwarden:

As DH stated, the hair color should have been red/auburn. Galen certainly is a fast-talker but in D&D that's represented by the Charisma-based skills. Hence, the decent Bluff score.
#14

zombiegleemax

Feb 21, 2005 19:35:46
Got the hair color changed and we'll consider the other suggestions.

Thanks for pointing that out.

See, we have responsive, intelligent people running Dragonlance now - guys, we don't have much cause to complain, I consider us all very lucky! And I love a good debate

Thanks Dragonhelm!