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Using Castles and Crusades For Dark Sun

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#1
Dragonhelm
Feb 23, 2005 11:21:07 I was curious if anyone around here had considered using Castles and Crusades for Dark Sun or not.

Dark Sun at times seems to be a setting that implemented a lot of the AD&D rules, especially with the different XP progression of the defiler and preserver. That's an element (no pun intended) that could be used with C&C.

My understanding is that there is a fan project going on to develop a C&C version of Dark Sun. I'd be interested in seeing it.

Anyway, I don't want this to develop into an edition war on which system is better for Dark Sun. I fully understand that some people prefer D&D 3e, some prefer AD&D, some like C&C, and it's all cool.

Just curious if anyone has been using C&C for Dark Sun or have thought about it, and how you would use C&C.
#2
dawnstealer
Feb 23, 2005 12:04:58 This would be something that would make far more sense in the Green Age or shortly before the Cleansing Wars. I've tossed up a few theories on the Cleansing Wars before and how they might have been started/fought, so I won't do it here (just search for Cleansing Wars - in fact, I think you had some things to say in many of those threads).

It would be hard to place them in current day Athas, but not impossible. To my knowledge, no one's done it yet, but there's no reason why someone (you?) couldn't adapt it. It's certainly an interesting concept.
#3
zombiegleemax
Feb 23, 2005 12:56:51 I personally think that warfare in the green age was quite mechanical. Champions, their wizard underlings, and their templars would lay seige and use all available powers to simply lay waste to whatever was in front of them. The opponents would have some wizards and some psions to help out, but they couldn't match the breadth of the power against them.

Because of this, fortifications that would have survived quite long (Kemalock for example) would have had to be built later in history and built by individuals who knew how to counter the most common destructive magics. I think that you'd see quite a lot of psionic creations, and minor magical patches to avert having a couple of disentigration spells level your defenses.

Does this sound reasonable? Or is this even what you were asking about?
#4
dawnstealer
Feb 23, 2005 13:17:02 In the Cleansing Wars, yes, but the Green Age was right before then. While it probably wasn't quite Forgotten Realms (prisoners' psyches stuck into obsidian balls, slaves, etc), it would have had some simularities. I believe that the Cleansing Wars didn't start overnight, and likely began with most people siding with the Champions while they did away with one "evil" race or another. It was not until later, when they realized the true intentions too late, that the war broke open and what you described came to pass.
#5
Dragonhelm
Feb 23, 2005 14:26:38
Or is this even what you were asking about?

Heh, well I think the topic went on a tangent there. I was just talking about using the C&C rules for Dark Sun as an alternative to straight D&D 3e.

Still, I learned a lot about the history of Athas.
#6
zombiegleemax
Feb 23, 2005 15:47:46
Heh, well I think the topic went on a tangent there. I was just talking about using the C&C rules for Dark Sun as an alternative to straight D&D 3e.

Still, I learned a lot about the history of Athas.

Yeah I tend to do that a little.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 Dragonhelm Feb 23, 2005 11:21:07	I was curious if anyone around here had considered using Castles and Crusades for Dark Sun or not. Dark Sun at times seems to be a setting that implemented a lot of the AD&D rules, especially with the different XP progression of the defiler and preserver. That's an element (no pun intended) that could be used with C&C. My understanding is that there is a fan project going on to develop a C&C version of Dark Sun. I'd be interested in seeing it. Anyway, I don't want this to develop into an edition war on which system is better for Dark Sun. I fully understand that some people prefer D&D 3e, some prefer AD&D, some like C&C, and it's all cool. Just curious if anyone has been using C&C for Dark Sun or have thought about it, and how you would use C&C.
#2 dawnstealer Feb 23, 2005 12:04:58	This would be something that would make far more sense in the Green Age or shortly before the Cleansing Wars. I've tossed up a few theories on the Cleansing Wars before and how they might have been started/fought, so I won't do it here (just search for Cleansing Wars - in fact, I think you had some things to say in many of those threads). It would be hard to place them in current day Athas, but not impossible. To my knowledge, no one's done it yet, but there's no reason why someone (you?) couldn't adapt it. It's certainly an interesting concept.
#3 zombiegleemax Feb 23, 2005 12:56:51	I personally think that warfare in the green age was quite mechanical. Champions, their wizard underlings, and their templars would lay seige and use all available powers to simply lay waste to whatever was in front of them. The opponents would have some wizards and some psions to help out, but they couldn't match the breadth of the power against them. Because of this, fortifications that would have survived quite long (Kemalock for example) would have had to be built later in history and built by individuals who knew how to counter the most common destructive magics. I think that you'd see quite a lot of psionic creations, and minor magical patches to avert having a couple of disentigration spells level your defenses. Does this sound reasonable? Or is this even what you were asking about?
#4 dawnstealer Feb 23, 2005 13:17:02	In the Cleansing Wars, yes, but the Green Age was right before then. While it probably wasn't quite Forgotten Realms (prisoners' psyches stuck into obsidian balls, slaves, etc), it would have had some simularities. I believe that the Cleansing Wars didn't start overnight, and likely began with most people siding with the Champions while they did away with one "evil" race or another. It was not until later, when they realized the true intentions too late, that the war broke open and what you described came to pass.
#5 Dragonhelm Feb 23, 2005 14:26:38	Or is this even what you were asking about? Heh, well I think the topic went on a tangent there. I was just talking about using the C&C rules for Dark Sun as an alternative to straight D&D 3e. Still, I learned a lot about the history of Athas.
#6 zombiegleemax Feb 23, 2005 15:47:46	Heh, well I think the topic went on a tangent there. I was just talking about using the C&C rules for Dark Sun as an alternative to straight D&D 3e. Still, I learned a lot about the history of Athas. Yeah I tend to do that a little.