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Post/Author/DateTime Post
#1
Sysane
Mar 08, 2005 9:20:21 I don't know how adaptable the up coming Sand Storm book is going to be for DS, but it looks goooood.
#2
dawnstealer
Mar 08, 2005 12:45:26 Haven't checked it yet. When's it due out? (sure I could probably check, but I'm lazy...)
#3
Sysane
Mar 08, 2005 12:53:29
Haven't checked it yet. When's it due out? (sure I could probably check, but I'm lazy...)

Next month if I'm not mistaken. The preview looked great (feats etc...).
#4
dawnstealer
Mar 08, 2005 13:50:44
The lithe asheratis can swim through sand as easily as a fish through water,

Crap! They took my idea! Well, I guess there's a precedent for it when I introduce the critters in "Far Side of the Silt Sea."
#5
Prism
Mar 20, 2005 16:03:29 Just browsing through now.

There are full details on heat exhaustion and how to resist it, dehydration, sun glare, high winds, dust storms etc

There is a desert varient dwarf, barbarian, druid and ranger amongst others

Oh, and the quote "at least one known world was laid waste by the overutilization of life-consuming magic, leaving only a barren, desert world"
#6
dawnstealer
Mar 20, 2005 16:45:34 [off topic]Might be an indicator that Wizards isn't planning on leaving the other worlds (Planescape, Athas) dorment for too much longer. Still haven't absolutely made up my mind whether that's a good thing or not, though. Personally, I think Athas is in good hands right now. Who knows what we'd get if it left?[/off topic]

As for Sandstorm, think I'll definitely pick up a copy just to see what they've come up with.
#7
Sysane
Mar 20, 2005 17:08:19 I flipped through it myself. Its not half bad. I'm a little ****** that almost a quarter of the book was filled with "adventure sites". I would have rather it been filled with either more rules, feats, PrC, etc....
#8
RunningWilder
Mar 20, 2005 19:03:02 I would say that, if you want to play Dark Sun, Sandstorm is now core rulebook number 5 (Along side the Core 3 and the XPH).

It could be interesting to introduce Marruspawn as the creations of rogue lifeshapers. Perhaps the Marru Abomination has an entire nation of Marruspawn across the silt sea and is interested in the Tablelands.
#9
Pennarin
Mar 20, 2005 20:42:39 I found the stuff sucked partly, maybe only because it focused on a blasted environment too similar to egypt and Al-Quadim...

The ashworm is great and might be helpful in designing a PrC for the Slimahacc rider.

The rules on heat, sandstorms and other weather elements are well adapted to DS, but a lot more is for other environments than DS: what with living deserts and moving dunes running around and killing people.

Mmm, I sound confused. That's what happen when you type and you're distracted and tired...
#10
RunningWilder
Mar 20, 2005 21:35:47
I found the stuff sucked partly, maybe only because it focused on a blasted environment too similar to egypt and Al-Quadim...

The ashworm is great and might be helpful in designing a PrC for the Slimahacc rider.

The rules on heat, sandstorms and other weather elements are well adapted to DS, but a lot more is for other environments than DS: what with living deserts and moving dunes running around and killing people.

Mmm, I sound confused. That's what happen when you type and you're distracted and tired...

What in the book cannot work in Dark Sun? I can see the Scion of Tem-Et-Nu working to protect the few sources of water in the world? The Walker of the Waste's powers could be from a para-element and Sand Shapers could be a type of mage who taps the life force in the sand directly.
#11
zombiegleemax
Mar 21, 2005 9:45:03
Crap! They took my idea! Well, I guess there's a precedent for it when I introduce the critters in "Far Side of the Silt Sea."

I had a DM once who had a Kraken that could do this, and boy let me tell you, that was a tough fight.
#12
zombiegleemax
Mar 22, 2005 4:12:45
I would say that, if you want to play Dark Sun, Sandstorm is now core rulebook number 5 (Along side the Core 3 and the XPH).

Yub yub me too! ;)
I am relly hungering for that book and will surely use it in my DarkSun campaign!
#13
sucros
Mar 22, 2005 15:22:01
[off topic]Might be an indicator that Wizards isn't planning on leaving the other worlds (Planescape, Athas) dorment for too much longer. Still haven't absolutely made up my mind whether that's a good thing or not, though. Personally, I think Athas is in good hands right now. Who knows what we'd get if it left?[/off topic]

I'd be pleased with new stuff, so long as they kept Noonan the heck away.
#14
nytcrawlr
Mar 22, 2005 16:35:02
I'd be pleased with new stuff, so long as they kept Noonan the heck away.

Eh, don't blame the guy for being unfairly part of the "everything must fit in a nice neat box" game. Noonan's work was tarnished by editors and those that feel the need to simplify everything into a nice, neat box called D&D 3e, that wasn't his fault, that was Paizo's.
#15
zombiegleemax
Mar 23, 2005 0:42:00 I read a bunch of time-life like books about the desert. Sand Storm doesn't seem to have anything my imagination can't work out in a game.
#16
eric_anondson
Mar 23, 2005 16:18:22 Let's not everyone forget the very well researched and well written Net Libram of Athasian Ecology. [warning! this links to a file...]

It isn't 3e in scope, but that shouldn't be too difficult to work with.

I was surprised that Sandstorm didn't cover all terrain types found in Athas. Particularly a silt sea. Tons of other wasteland terrains though. It would have also been a perfect place to introduce bunches of other Athasian monsters not yet converted to 3e... but they didn't. Still, the monsters there are easily adapable to Athas.

Regards,
Eric Anondson
#17
nytcrawlr
Mar 23, 2005 16:34:21
Let's not everyone forget the very well researched and well written Net Libram of Athasian Ecology. [warning! this links to a file...]

Woah, totally forgot about that!

Ah the good ol Teos days, damn I miss them.
#18
zombiegleemax
Mar 23, 2005 20:26:31 [gollum]It's my birthday present and I wants it![/gollum]
#19
RunningWilder
Mar 23, 2005 21:07:28
*SNIP*
I was surprised that Sandstorm didn't cover all terrain types found in Athas. Particularly a silt sea. Tons of other wasteland terrains though.
*SNIP*

Well, Silt Seas are pretty out there. And with the two different types of sands that suck you under, it shouldn't be hard to expand those hazards into an ocean.

I would have liked to see more Dark Sun monsters... but they did fairly well with what they put out.
#20
terminus_vortexa
Apr 03, 2005 0:34:37 I just picked up Sandstorm. Interesting stuff, and almost all of it is adaptable into Dark Sun, especially if you use regions beyond the official material.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 Sysane Mar 08, 2005 9:20:21	I don't know how adaptable the up coming Sand Storm book is going to be for DS, but it looks goooood.
#2 dawnstealer Mar 08, 2005 12:45:26	Haven't checked it yet. When's it due out? (sure I could probably check, but I'm lazy...)
#3 Sysane Mar 08, 2005 12:53:29	Haven't checked it yet. When's it due out? (sure I could probably check, but I'm lazy...) Next month if I'm not mistaken. The preview looked great (feats etc...).
#4 dawnstealer Mar 08, 2005 13:50:44	The lithe asheratis can swim through sand as easily as a fish through water, Crap! They took my idea! Well, I guess there's a precedent for it when I introduce the critters in "Far Side of the Silt Sea."
#5 Prism Mar 20, 2005 16:03:29	Just browsing through now. There are full details on heat exhaustion and how to resist it, dehydration, sun glare, high winds, dust storms etc There is a desert varient dwarf, barbarian, druid and ranger amongst others Oh, and the quote "at least one known world was laid waste by the overutilization of life-consuming magic, leaving only a barren, desert world"
#6 dawnstealer Mar 20, 2005 16:45:34	[off topic]Might be an indicator that Wizards isn't planning on leaving the other worlds (Planescape, Athas) dorment for too much longer. Still haven't absolutely made up my mind whether that's a good thing or not, though. Personally, I think Athas is in good hands right now. Who knows what we'd get if it left?[/off topic] As for Sandstorm, think I'll definitely pick up a copy just to see what they've come up with.
#7 Sysane Mar 20, 2005 17:08:19	I flipped through it myself. Its not half bad. I'm a little ****** that almost a quarter of the book was filled with "adventure sites". I would have rather it been filled with either more rules, feats, PrC, etc....
#8 RunningWilder Mar 20, 2005 19:03:02	I would say that, if you want to play Dark Sun, Sandstorm is now core rulebook number 5 (Along side the Core 3 and the XPH). It could be interesting to introduce Marruspawn as the creations of rogue lifeshapers. Perhaps the Marru Abomination has an entire nation of Marruspawn across the silt sea and is interested in the Tablelands.
#9 Pennarin Mar 20, 2005 20:42:39	I found the stuff sucked partly, maybe only because it focused on a blasted environment too similar to egypt and Al-Quadim... The ashworm is great and might be helpful in designing a PrC for the Slimahacc rider. The rules on heat, sandstorms and other weather elements are well adapted to DS, but a lot more is for other environments than DS: what with living deserts and moving dunes running around and killing people. Mmm, I sound confused. That's what happen when you type and you're distracted and tired...
#10 RunningWilder Mar 20, 2005 21:35:47	I found the stuff sucked partly, maybe only because it focused on a blasted environment too similar to egypt and Al-Quadim... The ashworm is great and might be helpful in designing a PrC for the Slimahacc rider. The rules on heat, sandstorms and other weather elements are well adapted to DS, but a lot more is for other environments than DS: what with living deserts and moving dunes running around and killing people. Mmm, I sound confused. That's what happen when you type and you're distracted and tired... What in the book cannot work in Dark Sun? I can see the Scion of Tem-Et-Nu working to protect the few sources of water in the world? The Walker of the Waste's powers could be from a para-element and Sand Shapers could be a type of mage who taps the life force in the sand directly.
#11 zombiegleemax Mar 21, 2005 9:45:03	Crap! They took my idea! Well, I guess there's a precedent for it when I introduce the critters in "Far Side of the Silt Sea." I had a DM once who had a Kraken that could do this, and boy let me tell you, that was a tough fight.
#12 zombiegleemax Mar 22, 2005 4:12:45	I would say that, if you want to play Dark Sun, Sandstorm is now core rulebook number 5 (Along side the Core 3 and the XPH). Yub yub me too! ;) I am relly hungering for that book and will surely use it in my DarkSun campaign!
#13 sucros Mar 22, 2005 15:22:01	[off topic]Might be an indicator that Wizards isn't planning on leaving the other worlds (Planescape, Athas) dorment for too much longer. Still haven't absolutely made up my mind whether that's a good thing or not, though. Personally, I think Athas is in good hands right now. Who knows what we'd get if it left?[/off topic] I'd be pleased with new stuff, so long as they kept Noonan the heck away.
#14 nytcrawlr Mar 22, 2005 16:35:02	I'd be pleased with new stuff, so long as they kept Noonan the heck away. Eh, don't blame the guy for being unfairly part of the "everything must fit in a nice neat box" game. Noonan's work was tarnished by editors and those that feel the need to simplify everything into a nice, neat box called D&D 3e, that wasn't his fault, that was Paizo's.
#15 zombiegleemax Mar 23, 2005 0:42:00	I read a bunch of time-life like books about the desert. Sand Storm doesn't seem to have anything my imagination can't work out in a game.
#16 eric_anondson Mar 23, 2005 16:18:22	Let's not everyone forget the very well researched and well written Net Libram of Athasian Ecology. [*warning!* this links to a file...] It isn't 3e in scope, but that shouldn't be too difficult to work with. I was surprised that Sandstorm didn't cover all terrain types found in Athas. Particularly a silt sea. Tons of other wasteland terrains though. It would have also been a perfect place to introduce bunches of other Athasian monsters not yet converted to 3e... but they didn't. Still, the monsters there are easily adapable to Athas. Regards, Eric Anondson
#17 nytcrawlr Mar 23, 2005 16:34:21	Let's not everyone forget the very well researched and well written Net Libram of Athasian Ecology. [*warning!* this links to a file...] Woah, totally forgot about that! Ah the good ol Teos days, damn I miss them.
#18 zombiegleemax Mar 23, 2005 20:26:31	[gollum]It's my birthday present and I wants it![/gollum]
#19 RunningWilder Mar 23, 2005 21:07:28	SNIP I was surprised that Sandstorm didn't cover all terrain types found in Athas. Particularly a silt sea. Tons of other wasteland terrains though. SNIP Well, Silt Seas are pretty out there. And with the two different types of sands that suck you under, it shouldn't be hard to expand those hazards into an ocean. I would have liked to see more Dark Sun monsters... but they did fairly well with what they put out.
#20 terminus_vortexa Apr 03, 2005 0:34:37	I just picked up Sandstorm. Interesting stuff, and almost all of it is adaptable into Dark Sun, especially if you use regions beyond the official material.