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#1
zombiegleemax
May 06, 2005 10:51:33 Hello

I am looking for information on the Sea of Dust and the Valley of the Mage. I am looking for web sites, books etc etc on these two things please leave it here if you can help.

Thanks

Dresel
#2
zombiegleemax
May 06, 2005 14:51:46
Hello

I am looking for information on the Sea of Dust and the Valley of the Mage. I am looking for web sites, books etc etc on these two things please leave it here if you can help.

Thanks

Dresel

I'd recommend the novel 'Sea of Death' by Gygax and the module WG12 Vale of the Mage.

Otherwise here is a list of references Ive compiled on these places.

Sea of Dust [WST]
ATG - 4,73
COG:FFF - 32
COLTM - 23
DRG#57 - 13
DRG#92 - 24
DRG#189 - 13
DRG#209 - 11
DRG#225 - 49
DRG#230 - 9,13,14,16
DRG#233 - 93
DRG#241 - 40,41,43,44,45,79
DRG#243 - 90,91
DRG#256 - 46
DRG#AN1 - 72
FTAA - 3,56,62,63
FTAR#12
GA - 3,22,30,83,90,96,98-100
GW:ADV - 30
LGG - 4,8,13,17,102,135,143,154,155,163
LGJ#1 - 12
LGJ#4 - 16
PGTG - 7-9,36
POLY#101 - 31
RTO8 - 60
TAB - 13,14,38
TSB - 23,35,68,76,Map
TSC - 9
WG8 - 117,118
WGA4 - 50,71
WGG - 5,24
WGR1 - 79
WGR2 - 24
WGR5 - 63
WGS2 - 46
WOGA - 8,53,61
WOGG - 15,27

Valley of the Mage {Vale of the Mage}(Pop 10,000?)[KNG]
ATG - 44
DRG#52 - 19,20
DRG#55 - 18
DRG#57 - 13
DRG#67 - 11
DRG#233 - 92
DRG#241 - 75,76
FTAA - 12,42,43,63
FTAR#2
FTAR#10
GA - 3,42-44,84,109-111
GW:ADV - 16
LGG - 48,63,126,127,128,129,142,160,IBC
LGJ#2 - 7
MMII - 60
N1 - 3
PGTG - 5,12,25,37
S4B2 - 12
TAB - 15,16,35,36
UA - 10
WG5 - 25
WGA4 - 48
WGG - IBC,7,18,23
WGR1 - 86
WOGA - 14,40,53,IBC
WOGG - 11,17,32
#3
ripvanwormer
May 06, 2005 19:06:22 The best info on the Sea of Dust was in the Greyhawk Adventures hardcover, though Gygax's novel Sea of Death is worth looking at. Andre Norton's novel Quag Keep also had an interesting take on the Sea of Dust, though it has a different explanation for how it came to be.

Greyhawk Adventures also had all the information you need on the Valley of the Mage. Basically all you need to know is that the Mage is an exiled wizard from the Great Kingdom, his lover and second in command is a neutral (or chaotic neutral, I forget) rogue drow, he's served mostly by elves and gnomes, and he plans on becoming a shade very shortly. I would emphasize shadowmagic among all the inhabitants of the Vale.
#4
cwslyclgh
May 07, 2005 12:48:59 on a side note WG12 is one of the worst greyhawk products ever produced, ranking right up there with Puppets IMHO, and I would aviod it despite JZ's recomendation.
#5
scon40
May 07, 2005 13:58:16
his lover and second in command is a neutral (or chaotic neutral, I forget) rogue drow, he's served mostly by elves and gnomes, and he plans on becoming a shade very shortly.

Tysiln San (the Mage's lover and 2nd in command) is a CN drow conjurer, not rogue (at least she is in all the sources I referenced).

And for those who use the LGG (which used WG12 as having some validity with regards to the Valley), it strongly implies he's left Oerth to complete his transformation to shade (part of his obsession with finding a way to become immortal) and that it's left the Necromancers who snuck in from Bissel in the Valley, pretending to visitors that they are the Mage of the Valley. I've been using that as the basis for a series of Living Greyhawk adventures I've been penning.
#6
Yeoman
May 07, 2005 17:26:12
on a side note WG12 is one of the worst greyhawk products ever produced, ranking right up there with Puppets IMHO, and I would aviod it despite JZ's recomendation.

Let me second that! One of the most disappointing GH products I had the misfortune to read.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax May 06, 2005 10:51:33	Hello I am looking for information on the Sea of Dust and the Valley of the Mage. I am looking for web sites, books etc etc on these two things please leave it here if you can help. Thanks Dresel
#2 zombiegleemax May 06, 2005 14:51:46	Hello I am looking for information on the Sea of Dust and the Valley of the Mage. I am looking for web sites, books etc etc on these two things please leave it here if you can help. Thanks Dresel I'd recommend the novel 'Sea of Death' by Gygax and the module WG12 Vale of the Mage. Otherwise here is a list of references Ive compiled on these places. Sea of Dust [WST] ATG - 4,73 COG:FFF - 32 COLTM - 23 DRG#57 - 13 DRG#92 - 24 DRG#189 - 13 DRG#209 - 11 DRG#225 - 49 DRG#230 - 9,13,14,16 DRG#233 - 93 DRG#241 - 40,41,43,44,45,79 DRG#243 - 90,91 DRG#256 - 46 DRG#AN1 - 72 FTAA - 3,56,62,63 FTAR#12 GA - 3,22,30,83,90,96,98-100 GW:ADV - 30 LGG - 4,8,13,17,102,135,143,154,155,163 LGJ#1 - 12 LGJ#4 - 16 PGTG - 7-9,36 POLY#101 - 31 RTO8 - 60 TAB - 13,14,38 TSB - 23,35,68,76,Map TSC - 9 WG8 - 117,118 WGA4 - 50,71 WGG - 5,24 WGR1 - 79 WGR2 - 24 WGR5 - 63 WGS2 - 46 WOGA - 8,53,61 WOGG - 15,27 Valley of the Mage {Vale of the Mage}(Pop 10,000?)[KNG] ATG - 44 DRG#52 - 19,20 DRG#55 - 18 DRG#57 - 13 DRG#67 - 11 DRG#233 - 92 DRG#241 - 75,76 FTAA - 12,42,43,63 FTAR#2 FTAR#10 GA - 3,42-44,84,109-111 GW:ADV - 16 LGG - 48,63,126,127,128,129,142,160,IBC LGJ#2 - 7 MMII - 60 N1 - 3 PGTG - 5,12,25,37 S4B2 - 12 TAB - 15,16,35,36 UA - 10 WG5 - 25 WGA4 - 48 WGG - IBC,7,18,23 WGR1 - 86 WOGA - 14,40,53,IBC WOGG - 11,17,32
#3 ripvanwormer May 06, 2005 19:06:22	The best info on the Sea of Dust was in the Greyhawk Adventures hardcover, though Gygax's novel Sea of Death is worth looking at. Andre Norton's novel Quag Keep also had an interesting take on the Sea of Dust, though it has a different explanation for how it came to be. Greyhawk Adventures also had all the information you need on the Valley of the Mage. Basically all you need to know is that the Mage is an exiled wizard from the Great Kingdom, his lover and second in command is a neutral (or chaotic neutral, I forget) rogue drow, he's served mostly by elves and gnomes, and he plans on becoming a shade very shortly. I would emphasize shadowmagic among all the inhabitants of the Vale.
#4 cwslyclgh May 07, 2005 12:48:59	on a side note WG12 is one of the worst greyhawk products ever produced, ranking right up there with Puppets IMHO, and I would aviod it despite JZ's recomendation.
#5 scon40 May 07, 2005 13:58:16	his lover and second in command is a neutral (or chaotic neutral, I forget) rogue drow, he's served mostly by elves and gnomes, and he plans on becoming a shade very shortly. Tysiln San (the Mage's lover and 2nd in command) is a CN drow conjurer, not rogue (at least she is in all the sources I referenced). And for those who use the LGG (which used WG12 as having some validity with regards to the Valley), it strongly implies he's left Oerth to complete his transformation to shade (part of his obsession with finding a way to become immortal) and that it's left the Necromancers who snuck in from Bissel in the Valley, pretending to visitors that they are the Mage of the Valley. I've been using that as the basis for a series of Living Greyhawk adventures I've been penning.
#6 Yeoman May 07, 2005 17:26:12	on a side note WG12 is one of the worst greyhawk products ever produced, ranking right up there with Puppets IMHO, and I would aviod it despite JZ's recomendation. Let me second that! One of the most disappointing GH products I had the misfortune to read.