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#1 zombiegleemax May 29, 2005 10:52:42	So I saw episode 3, and while i was at it i was watching palpatine and know what he made me think of? Andropinis. Andropinis is nominally an elected official, and, well, palpatine just really reminded me of him, both in appearance and in the more-than-what-he-appears-ness.
#2 Sysane May 29, 2005 11:48:31	So I saw episode 3, and while i was at it i was watching palpatine and know what he made me think of? Andropinis. Andropinis is nominally an elected official, and, well, palpatine just really reminded me of him, both in appearance and in the more-than-what-he-appears-ness. "My...little...green...friend" The flick was good, but the acting was horrible.
#3 nytcrawlr May 29, 2005 12:30:10	"My...little...green...friend" The flick was good, but the acting was horrible. Eh, the acting was more horrible in EP 1 and 2, especially the Portman/Christensen scenes in EP 2, but I blame Lucas on that since both Portman and Christensen can actually act. See some of the other things, espcially the newer stuff, Christensen did if you don't believe me.
#4 zombiegleemax May 29, 2005 14:32:38	I did see preserver magic as the good side of the Force and Defiler magic as the Dark side. Noooooooooooo!
#5 squidfur- May 29, 2005 22:51:32	Eh, the acting was more horrible in EP 1 and 2, especially the Portman/Christensen scenes in EP 2, but I blame Lucas on that since both Portman and Christensen can actually act. See some of the other things, espcially the newer stuff, Christensen did if you don't believe me. Amen! Noooooooooooo! Oh god...... :D I must admit to getting several ideas for my ds campaign from watching that movie, too. Plus, I think Lucas must've bred an erdlu/inix crossbreed for that movie
#6 dawnstealer May 29, 2005 23:01:12	I think Chewbacca was the best actor in the movie. Sweet, sweet Chewbacca. ...You never lie to me.
#7 dracochapel May 30, 2005 0:09:46	Comments Deleted And on Dark Sun, was it ever established whether andropinis actually was voted in and turned bad? (ala palpatine) or that he took over and then established a democratic facade. I remember one of the books described Balic as having a history of democracy, but considering how long andropinis probably ruled, and the general athasian unawareness of history, that could just be a reference to andropinis using democracy as a facade, and a good way to push the blame onto others like the senators (which is similar to how in the Battletech books rebellious elements in the Draconis combine worked to protect the coordinator (ruler of the nation) from the supposed 'evil advisors' who were warping the Draconis society against their beliefs)
#8 jon_oracle_of_athas May 30, 2005 2:24:05	IIRC Andropinis was elected for his position on a lifetime basis. No one expected him to live as long though :P
#9 xlorepdarkhelm_dup May 30, 2005 2:35:24	IIRC Andropinis was elected for his position on a lifetime basis. No one expected him to live as long though :P Tricky, tricky Andy.
#10 wizo_sith May 30, 2005 12:51:13	Hi everybody! First let me congradulate everybody on a really interesting topic, I hadn't drawn the parallel between Palpatine/Sidious and Androponis but it *DOES* fit very well. Secondly, I do have to put my "official" hat on and remind everybody that we don't allow Political, Real-World Religious, or Controvercial-Topic discussion anywhere on the WotC forums. These forums are here to bring gamers together and have fun, so we don't allow topics that drive people apart (I mean, WotC didn't become the industry leader by alienating it's customer base).
#11 the_peacebringer May 30, 2005 13:39:57	What? Whatever do you mean? :angelhide As Arnold would say:"Yo have been ERASED!" :D
#12 zombiegleemax May 30, 2005 17:15:36	So I saw episode 3, and while i was at it i was watching palpatine and know what he made me think of? Andropinis. Andropinis is nominally an elected official, and, well, palpatine just really reminded me of him, both in appearance and in the more-than-what-he-appears-ness. Actually, I always thought Kalak was the Emperor's incarnation on Athas (appearance wise, that is).
#13 dracochapel May 30, 2005 21:08:42	This topic has got me thinking about the other SK's and how they took over their city states. Andropinis was elected at least 700 yrs ago in Balic. Hamanu built Urik up using the remnants of his army and the inhabitants of the original village. (havent read rise and fall in years so not sure exactly). Kalak ruled Tyr before the Cleansing wars - we'll avoid his championness here. Not sure about the other ones. Nibenay was the only one to name the city after himself unless he took on the name of the city, to disguise his origins and also identify himself with the city (in a similar way to hamanu, though evil, acts always to the benefit of the city, something his population are aware of) and both cities are very lawful.
#14 jon_oracle_of_athas Jun 02, 2005 4:22:36	Did anyone ever consider the possibility of Pennarin being designated to wipe out the Wookies? :P
#15 pringles Jun 02, 2005 7:56:33	In the Wanderer journal, its said that Tectutitlay led his people in the mud field of actual Draj and founded a city there. Nibenay must certainly have took control of the city since there building pre-dating his reign. I dont know for Lalali-puy, but in my game, she founded her city like Tectutitlay. Abalach-re took control of Raam.
#16 Pennarin Jun 02, 2005 12:29:18	Did anyone ever consider the possibility of Pennarin being designated to wipe out the Wookies? :P Is that...a taunt? Are you taunting me? :D
#17 seker Jun 02, 2005 12:40:00	Nah Pennarin was not sent after the wookies..... it was the gungans...... it even fits the fluff of the descriptions of the gangly, pale, big eyed enemies :P plus Rajaat would definately seen them as an abomination of the rebirth
#18 Pennarin Jun 02, 2005 12:58:52	Abomination of the Rebirth!? Hell, make that an abomination at any time period!!
#19 seker Jun 02, 2005 13:47:04	Abomination of the Rebirth!? Hell, make that an abomination at any time period!! lol I think we have found the true reason for the cleansing war....... Rajaat met Jar-Jar......
#20 jon_oracle_of_athas Jun 02, 2005 17:05:06	Die Jar Jar, die! A 4-7th level adventure.
#21 terminus_vortexa Jun 02, 2005 17:07:52	lol I think we have found the true reason for the cleansing war....... Rajaat met Jar-Jar...... I have to concur. The last time I went to the range, I stapled a poster of Jar-Jar to the target. Had better aim then most times. Nothing but kidneys and brains!! :D
#22 jon_oracle_of_athas Jun 03, 2005 2:27:34	www.zooass.com/games/jarjar/ For all those Jar Jar haters out there. :P
#23 nytcrawlr Jun 03, 2005 10:57:54	www.zooass.com/games/jarjar/ For all those Jar Jar haters out there. :P Makes me wonder what's on this thing now since the damn library is filtering it, heh.
#24 jon_oracle_of_athas Jun 05, 2005 4:50:31	Probably because it contains the word 'ass'.
#25 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Jun 05, 2005 9:36:51	Probably because it contains the word 'ass'. And you put a space at the end of the URL before the close tag. so therefore, it's trying to look up the wrong address.
#26 terminus_vortexa Jun 05, 2005 13:16:21	That game was awesome! not as cool as going to the range with a Jar-Jar poster, but pretty damn close!
#27 dawnstealer Jun 05, 2005 22:17:44	Not to draw the wrath of the gods on these boards, but I have noticed that the best stories and the best campaigns have some resonance with real life. And considering that Lucas even straight up said that Ep. III was analogous to our current real-world situations...
#28 dracochapel Jun 05, 2005 23:34:34	was going to comment, but one smackdown a week is enough If andropinis is palpatine, who would be darth vader? hamanu - the good boy gone wrong? or oronis, the bad guy who redeems himself?
#29 dawnstealer Jun 06, 2005 0:09:20	Yeah, those of us from the "blue states" are a little sensitive about censorship lately. Weird. Anyways, your point would suggest that Andy created Vader; not sure I could go with that one. I think Rajaat might be a good figure though, but whereas Palpatine wanted only more and more power, Rajaat actually wanted to make the world a better place. His tactics for acheiving that goal, however, were a bit monstrous.
#30 dracochapel Jun 06, 2005 0:52:01	yeah it doesnt really match up. but someone should be darth vader hamanu could be darth vader, the troll scorcher guy can be darth tyrannus (killed by vader) and the previous dwarf slayer can be darth maul. Evil mastermind suits rajaat more than andropinis anyway. and palpatine is ugly enough. Padme could be that druid chick that hamanu loves/loved. Sadira can be Mara Jade (the emperors hand with a secret objective - kill luke / release rajaat from the hollow cause shes stupid)
#31 dawnstealer Jun 06, 2005 9:49:47	Still don't see it. Maybe if Rajaat were Darth Vader and some ancient life-bender (who gave him the secret of the Brown Tide aka Defiling) was the power behind the power? Fits a little better that way: Rajaat wants only good, but in his quest for it, he commits far-reaching atrocities.
#32 jon_oracle_of_athas Jun 06, 2005 13:34:16	Or maybe we should face it and yield to the fact that DS isn't a Star Wars analogy or vice versa?
#33 ruhl-than_sage Jun 06, 2005 16:15:57	Or maybe we should face it and yield to the fact that DS isn't a Star Wars analogy or vice versa? Oooo! Ooo! :bounce: that one! that one! It's not an analogy. See, I have officaily decided. Now all must yield.
#34 dracochapel Jun 06, 2005 19:11:30	Nooooooooooooo!!! [edit]damn already done![/edit] Maybe Athas is really star trek! and rikus is bald old captain picard hmm hes probably worf. and sadira is the telepathic chick and agis is picard. ah it all makes sense now.
#35 ruhl-than_sage Jun 06, 2005 19:47:04	Nooooooooooooo!!! [edit]damn already done![/edit] Maybe Athas is really star trek! and rikus is bald old captain picard hmm hes probably worf. and sadira is the telepathic chick and agis is picard. ah it all makes sense now. Hey that's mean! You take that back! Rikus is not Worf.
#36 dracochapel Jun 06, 2005 21:46:50	whos it more mean to rikus or worf?
#37 nytcrawlr Jun 07, 2005 12:39:44	Not to draw the wrath of the gods on these boards, but I have noticed that the best stories and the best campaigns have some resonance with real life. And considering that Lucas even straight up said that Ep. III was analogous to our current real-world situations... Agreed... "You're either with me, or against me..." - Anakin in reltaion to what GWB said not too long ago.
#38 nytcrawlr Jun 07, 2005 12:42:48	and the previous dwarf slayer can be darth maul. Previous? it's probably just Borys with another name. Or that was his name before he changed it to Borys anyways. That's my thoughts on the matter at the moment. Sadira can be Mara Jade (the emperors hand with a secret objective - kill luke / release rajaat from the hollow cause shes stupid) I love it!
#39 nytcrawlr Jun 07, 2005 12:45:11	whos it more mean to rikus or worf? I've voting for worf, cause at least he has brains. /me runs