Favorite vilain

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#1

pringles

Jun 07, 2005 14:47:14
Who your favorite Dark sun TSR vilain (not created by you) that you use in your campaign and why.

Mine;

Tithian: because i'm having great fun giving hard time to my player with Tithian. His ruthless, cunning and machiavelic.

Kalak: Just for the scare factor of sucking the life-force of a whole city to transform into a Dragon.

Nok: No fear, give me what I want or die.

Wheellock: creepy character.

The Dragon: I never used him but by roleplaying and storytelling, my player are scared of it big time. They shiver everytime one of the player mention they should fight the Dragon.
#2

seker

Jun 07, 2005 14:51:24
Nok...... definately... Nok

he is just nasty beyond belief.....

plus Umbra was fun as well

of the SK's my favorite two were Borys, and Nibenay
#3

xlorepdarkhelm_dup

Jun 07, 2005 14:55:42
Dregoth - Undead Dragon with aspirations to become a god. Who couldn't like that?

Hamanu - Strict disciplinarian who may sound noble, but really knows just how evil he truly is.

Rajaat - Solution to the great problems of the world? Wipe everyone out. Once again, an awesome idealist.
#4

Sysane

Jun 07, 2005 15:00:02
I'd have to say Irikos. Granted, not very developed by TSR themselves, but it created a spring board for a very notable villain IMC.

Other than him, Holtet Phen and Bezerak Sandfist became long standing enemies of the party IMC as well.
#5

zombiegleemax

Jun 07, 2005 16:31:29
Tithian: mostly because of the line in the Verdant Passage: "Long live the king". The man is a big jerk. Selfish, cunning, and horribly effective in furthering his goals yet at the same time he is cowardly and appears willing to help the good guys (for a time).

The fact that I did not know what his ultimate fate was going to be right up until the end of Cerulean Storm (with me cheering him on all the way) has me saying that Tithian is one of my favourite villains of all time.

As for an NPC villain in an RPG. I think I prefer one of the sorcerer kings post fy 10. Powerful yet shown to be vulnerable, their numbers dwindling, they provide many fun opportunities to explore and exploit.
#6

terminus_vortexa

Jun 07, 2005 16:47:11
Tithian , Borys and Rajaat.
#7

elonarc

Jun 07, 2005 16:54:01
Borys, Kalak and not Hamanu.
#8

balican_gigolo

Jun 07, 2005 21:04:48
In my last campaign, Androponis. He's communicating with one of the PCs from the Black. The PC has been pulled to and from the black three times already and he's scared. He doesn't have a clue it's Androponis. He thinks it's an imprisoned god wanting out and getting to Athas. Androponis has given him a few powers and the promise for immortality, but this is just a ruse to further his goal of escaping the black.

As for the SKs, I'd say Dregoth, but I've never played him. Just reading about him though is awesome. Of the ones I've played, Hamanu is definitely my fav.
#9

squidfur-

Jun 07, 2005 21:53:12
I think for my campaign, I'd have to say Faldar has been my favorite villian. That however is a long story, so I'll say Hamanu as well. Despite all H's nobility, he's just viscious as a bad guy. Also, in the very near future, Farcluun will be added to that list (PC's are actually yet to encounter him despite him being involved with the storyline almost from the beginning).
#10

gilliard_derosan

Jun 08, 2005 1:18:19
Haven't gotten too far in my own campaign, but in a game I played before, the main TSR DS badguys we had to deal with were

Dregoth, Borys, and Abalach(?) Re
#11

zombiegleemax

Jun 08, 2005 1:55:57
Borys - THE dragon was probably one of the biggest things that made an impression on our group when DS1 first came out. I was DMing, but I let the rest skim through the DM manual before we started play. Once one of them spotted our scaly friend, he pointed it out to the rest and the guys lived out the rest of our DS campaigns with the nagging dread that I'd put them up against that thing. It was great, even though I never used him.

Kalid-Ma - She was perhaps my favorite SK (sorcerer-king is a unisex title in my book), so much potential for havoc. Before anyone starts, I first "met" her when Domains of Dread came out, and never really read the Ravenloft hardcover or any other relevent material regarding her/him until recently, so Kalid-Ma is pretty much stuck in my mind as a she (I can be a stubborn jerk sometimes...OK alot of the time). Anyway, back in the day I was running a campaign in Ravenloft (this was after our first DS campaign) and had the party blunder into Kalidnay, They didn't realize where they were until after they were already captured and enslaved, but I'm sure the neighbors heard the howls of depair when it dawned on them that they were on Athas (at least a small part of it). Anyway, they did manage to kill Thakok-An (after the paladin died horribly in the arena), and I decided to be nice. With the darklord gone, the domain dissolved and dumped them in the ruins of of Kalidnay on Athas, complete with one very awake, very confused, and very angry Kalid-Ma to deal with (the sesson ended there with multiple pop cans, dice, and anything else they could find being thrown at me). We started the DS portion of that campaign a week later.
#12

xlorepdarkhelm_dup

Jun 08, 2005 2:40:10
Kalid-Ma - She was perhaps my favorite SK (sorcerer-king is a unisex title in my book), so much potential for havoc. Before anyone starts, I first "met" her when Domains of Dread came out, and never really read the Ravenloft hardcover or any other relevent material regarding her/him until recently, so Kalid-Ma is pretty much stuck in my mind as a she (I can be a stubborn jerk sometimes...OK alot of the time). Anyway, back in the day I was running a campaign in Ravenloft (this was after our first DS campaign) and had the party blunder into Kalidnay, They didn't realize where they were until after they were already captured and enslaved, but I'm sure the neighbors heard the howls of depair when it dawned on them that they were on Athas (at least a small part of it). Anyway, they did manage to kill Thakok-An (after the paladin died horribly in the arena), and I decided to be nice. With the darklord gone, the domain dissolved and dumped them in the ruins of of Kalidnay on Athas, complete with one very awake, very confused, and very angry Kalid-Ma to deal with (the sesson ended there with multiple pop cans, dice, and anything else they could find being thrown at me). We started the DS portion of that campaign a week later.

Ahh yes, but in the end, Kalid-Ma is a he, not a she :P (of course, that's just kicking a dead kank around on this forum).
#13

zombiegleemax

Jun 08, 2005 6:06:02
Ahh yes, but in the end, Kalid-Ma is a he, not a she :P (of course, that's just kicking a dead kank around on this forum).

I know, but, you see, the Dark Powers kinda got mixed up when they made the domain (which was actually a demi-plane in the Black), and put Thakok-An's mind in Kalid-Ma's (second) body (with Kalid-Ma's memories). Kalid-Ma's mind ended up split between Thakok-An's second body (which was male), the Orbs of Kalid-Ma, and Thakok-An's pet tembo, while his body (now a kinda dragonish thing) was blown to bits by Kalak and Hamanu (Thakok-An's original body is now so much ash). When the Dark Powers realized what a mess they made of things, they walked away (whistling like nothing happened) and promised themselves they would never, ever mess with Athas again. After all, compared to Athas, Ravenloft is a prime vacation spot!

Of course, House Wavir's spies got wind of the whole thing, and are trying to figure out a way to sell time shares in Indivia and/or Sri Raja when the permits go through. They were going to buy Dregoth's planar gate to make the commute a bit easier, but he charges an arm and a leg (and a head and torso...)
#14

pringles

Jun 08, 2005 9:37:48
I almost forgot another vilain I use in my campaign; Fenaeyon (chief of Sun runner tribe and Sadira father). Great fun with him.
#15

Kamelion

Jun 08, 2005 9:46:44
Tethrades was always a favourite bad guy of mine. Except in my current games, he's an elan pawn of the Order.

Dote Mal Payne is another great villain, mainly because he was never statted out in 2e, so I have real freedom in building him up from scratch.

Nok is also a good choice. He was a recurrent antagonist in my last campaign. The players in the current campaign seem to think he's an ally of theirs and who am I to trample all over their dreams?

Tithian also gets my vote, just for being a horrible, horrible little weasel of a man.

Oh, and any number of PCs who are secretly defilers and want to betray the party for huge amounts of filthy lucre.
#16

Kamelion

Jun 08, 2005 9:56:07
Oh, and Mothgar! How could I forget a giant that uses a ballista as a hand crossbow? He rules, utterly and totally :D.
#17

dawnstealer

Jun 08, 2005 10:28:58
I decided to introduce Blackspear (gith leader from Blackspine) early on in a campaign just so the the PCs were well-aquainted with him. Worked almost too well. A LOT of fun with that gith.
#18

nytcrawlr

Jun 08, 2005 13:06:23
I'm all about the Dregoth and Rajaat here.

Dregoth because he's just damn evil and cunning, and very, very patient.

Rajaat because he gives that whole unspoken threat that continues to threaten even though he's trapped somewhere else. Just the idea that he could escape again sends chills down my spine and some of the players I had.

Oh and Hammanu, can't ever forget him.
#19

nytcrawlr

Jun 08, 2005 13:13:11
Kalid-Ma - She was perhaps my favorite SK (sorcerer-king is a unisex title in my book), so much potential for havoc. Before anyone starts, I first "met" her when Domains of Dread came out, and never really read the Ravenloft hardcover or any other relevent material regarding her/him until recently, so Kalid-Ma is pretty much stuck in my mind as a she (I can be a stubborn jerk sometimes...OK alot of the time).

Don't worry, I've considered leaving it as a female too, just can't stand the Oba being the only female SM out there. But you should really pick up the Ravenloft hardcover (which I think is Domains of Dread and isn't the one you have, could be wrong though).

Oh and I prefer using the term Sorcerer Monarchs instead of Sorcerer Kings.
#20

nytcrawlr

Jun 08, 2005 13:15:42
Kalid-Ma's mind ended up split between Thakok-An's second body (which was male),

Now see, if I left Kalid-ma female I would be too tempted to leave Thakok-an a female as well. Just appeals to me more story wise.

Just my two ceramic though.
#21

nytcrawlr

Jun 08, 2005 13:19:10
Oh, and Mothgar! How could I forget a giant that uses a ballista as a hand crossbow? He rules, utterly and totally :D.

Sounds cool, but I don't remember him.

Where was he from?
#22

pringles

Jun 08, 2005 14:10:50
merchanty house of Amketch
#23

nytcrawlr

Jun 08, 2005 15:47:46
Cool, I'll check it out when I get home.

Merci.
#24

kalthandrix

Jun 08, 2005 20:57:45
I think a great villen from the PP books would be the Shadow Giants in the Pristine Tower- you have to admit that they were creepy.

I think hands down the biggest baddie on Athas is The Dragon- I truly think it would be sweet to bring him back, slightly altered due to his being consumed by the black goo in the Scourge and maybe as a totally loyal (now at least) servent working to bring the War Bringer back.
#25

ruhl-than_sage

Jun 08, 2005 21:21:46
Ahh yes, but in the end, Kalid-Ma is a he, not a she :P (of course, that's just kicking a dead kank around on this forum).

No, I'm sorry but, Kalid-Ma is a woman, Kalid-Pa is a man.
#26

zombiegleemax

Jun 08, 2005 23:56:52
Don't worry, I've considered leaving it as a female too, just can't stand the Oba being the only female SM out there.

Ditto.

But you should really pick up the Ravenloft hardcover (which I think is Domains of Dread and isn't the one you have, could be wrong though).

You're right, Domains of Dread is the bardcover (can't remember what the second boxed set was called, and I'm too lazy to look it up). I actually have the hardcover too, just never bothered to do more than skim through (was running Shadowrun for years, then switched to d20 when it came out. Haven't done a RLd20 campaign yet, so its still low on the priority list),

Oh and I prefer using the term Sorcerer Monarchs instead of Sorcerer Kings.

Personal perference rules

Now see, if I left Kalid-ma female I would be too tempted to leave Thakok-an a female as well. Just appeals to me more story wise.

Brings a whole new twist to their relationship Anyway, you probably know this, but I was just facetious (sp?) and wierd(er than normal) with that little story. I can accept Kalid-Ma as a guy, its just more boring that way
#27

murkaf

Jun 09, 2005 7:13:00
No, I'm sorry but, Kalid-Ma is a woman, Kalid-Pa is a man.



Great...
Now someone's going to come up with the whole Kalid-family and friends...
And pets.