I several of the following kits..
From Defilers and Preservers of Athas :
Advanced Being
Earth Defender
Restorationist
From a Dragon Magazine I can't recall the exact number of just yet, but they were all psioinicist kits.
Janisary (very fitting I think, with minor twists)
Paranaturalist
Pioneer
Specialist
Militant
From a different Dragon Magazine
Crystalite Psionicist
Any other faves anyone had they haven't seen translated yet?
I just converted my favorite 2e kit, the psiologist.
.*Holds Breath* Does anybody know? Maybe someone in the templarate? The person who complied the Prestige classes maybe?
Jon?I did a "conversion" of PrCs that only existed in the novels and short stories
- psionic characters that control beasts of burden of all sizes: mekillots, korinths, ..., found in PP2 and a short story
- the empath healer with her healer's heart, found in the short story Heat Lightning (Dragon's Crown)
The Tik-Tik was a repost by Jon, IIRC, of the converted kit by Flip. There was another PrC in the same post as well, again IIRC.
The Tik-Tik was a repost by Jon, IIRC, of the converted kit by Flip. There was another PrC in the same post as well, again IIRC.
It was Brax, not Flip, who made the kreen kit conversions, though I didn't base the tik-tik on the former conversion. I haven't posted any version other than the one in the Prestige Class Appendix.
From a different Dragon Magazine
Crystalite Psionicist
What was this?
The would atune their crystal over a period of weeks or months, which made loosing the crystal a problem, especially since without it they'd not only loose the benefits, but they'd gain penalties making them worse than their 'normal' counterparts...
I've always wanted to see more done with it than was the case before.. I'd actually be interested in making it into a prestige class if only I knew enough to make it properly.. but it would be fun to toss out ideas on it.. to see what people could come up with..
When I find out from my bro which Dragon Magazine it's in, I'll post it.
That's where it is
good stuff, though as I said, I wish they'd done more with the concept, there's lots you could do with it.Dragon Magazine 200
That's where it is
Awesome, thanks. I have that issue in storage, so I'll look it up.
I know a lot of the old kits have already been converted, but it would be nice to know exactly which ones have and haven't, so people could finish converting them
2nd ed. kits - 3rd ed PrCs
The Will and the Way
Auditor - in the works by Methvezem (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=459060)
Beastmaster Psionicist - in the works by Sysane (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=460564)
Mercenary Psionicist
Noble Psionicist
Psiologist - in the works by Methvezem(http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=356936) & Kalthandrix (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=452687)
Sensei - Psionic Monk (http://athas.org)
Tribal Psionicist
The Complete Gladiator’s Handbook
Beast Trainer - in the works by Nyt (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=463731)
Blind Fighter - in the works by Nyt (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=463731)
Arena Champion - Arena Champion (http://athas.org)
Convict
Professional Gladiator
Jazst - in the works by Nyt (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=463731)
Montare - in the works by Nyt and Pennarin
Reaver - Reaver (http://athas.org)
Gladiatorial Slave
Earth, Air, Fire, and Water
The Wanderers
Guardians of the Shrine
Clerics of the Cities
Shamans
Elves of Athas
Savage Hunter
Thri-kreen Slayer - Kreen Slayer (http://athas.org)
Free-Wanderer
Procurer
Battle Dancer - Battle Dancer (http://athas.org)
Elemental Singer - Elemental Singer (http://athas.org)
Arcanist
Brown Elf
Thri-kreen of Athas
Tik (Hunter)
Tik-Tik (Guardian) - Tik-Tik (http://athas.org)
Kalak (Scout)
Kik (Raider)
Tekchakak (Pack Psionicist)
Kiltektet (Student Missionary) - feat (http://athas.org)
Defilers and Preservers: The Wizards of Athas
Advanced Being - Advanced Being (http://athas.org)
Arena Mage
Cerulean - Cerulean (http://athas.org)
Chasseur - Chasseur (http://athas.org)
Earth Defender - Earth Defender (http://athas.org)
Exterminator
Free Wizard
Illusionist
Mercenary
Restorationist - Restorationist (http://athas.org)
Shadow Wizard - Shadow Wizard (http://athas.org)
Tribal Wizard
Necromancer - Necromant (http://athas.org)
City-State of Tyr
Draqoman - Draqoman (http://athas.org)
Windriders of the Jagged Cliffs
Chahn Terrorist
Climber
Windancer
Windrider
Dragon 194
Slave Warrior
Raider
Veiled One - Veiled One (http://athas.org)
Archanamach - Royal Defiler (http://athas.org)
Chronicler
Tribal Priest
Caravaneer
Sycophant
Noble Psionicist
Untutored One
Dragon 231
Gray Chasseur
Pale
Obscure - Shadow Wizard (http://athas.org)
Protector
Relic Seeker
Slayer
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Squidfur- ...a simple note: when you snip off quoted text, use the arrow keys on your keyboard, it will put a stop to your browser's tendency to erase the [ from the Quote symbol.
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ooh, hee hee. thanx pen. problem fixed
Wow :D Thanks Squid! Anyone who knows another PrC on this list that has been converted should eigther po st it here, or make a link to it if it is already posted on the boards. That way we can have a complete PrC reasource on this page. I think all of the ones that are that are marked as converted on Squid's list are in the Dark Sun Prestige Classes.
I do not know if it counts- not being official or anything, but my sig has the Psiologist PrC. But here is is again :D
The Psiologist PrC
any rules guru wanna help me restructure and revamp the Crystalite Psionicist, Jannisary, Pioneer, Paranaturalist, Specialist and any other fitting kits from Dragon 200? I'm good at theme work and ideas, but don't have enough of a grasp of the rules or balance to keep things in line with other kits..
:D , I'll help you. I'm sure between the two of us we can do them justice...
I just need to read over the old kits to refresh my memory before we start. :bounce:I'm actually working on a beastmaster PrC currently. I should have it done and posted before the end of the week.
There's a beastmaster in Complete Adventurer. Not sure if that's the same type of thing you're looking for.
I think there's a psionic beastmaster in Of Sound Mind or the Psionics Toolkit (Fiery Dragon/Sword and Sorcery).
There's a beastmaster in Complete Adventurer. Not sure if that's the same type of thing you're looking for.
I think there's a psionic beastmaster in Of Sound Mind or the Psionics Toolkit (Fiery Dragon/Sword and Sorcery).
I'm using the beastmaster from Complete Adventure as a guide line. I'll have to take a look at that other one though. Thanks for the tip
Related to the concept, I created the cornac, a psionic animal handler for mekillots, korinths, and other nasty beasts of burden.
Where did the Crystal-thingie PrC come from again?
Dragon Magazine issue 200
Its got potential, I'd like to see the concept of a focusing crystal expanded on. If you recall old 2e rules, I loved the thought of a psionically enchanted crystal worn around a psychristal users neck.. kinda like having a familiar.. then grant the object metapsionic powers and it starts to become a real boost..
Perhaps a reformation of this kit into a PrC could make a psychristal into a greater familiar, toss in some metapsionic feats, add a crystaline twist.. giving a mix between familiar enhancers and metapsionics and you create a greater symbiotic resonance between the two, that's kinda what I think I'm hoping for, a PrC that turns the psions crystal familiar into more than it is... (maybe adding elements of crystal capacitors or djors or whatever.. with flexability it could be very fun!)
:D , I'll help you. I'm sure between the two of us we can do them justice...
Sage you just made my day! I've always wanted to do something with you
I've often enjoyed your ideas that you've posted, you've got talent. I too need to re-examine the old kits, I have the basic concepts of most of them in my head, but my bro in another state has the magazines, I'll need to have him send me some info to refresh my memory.
I don't have that issue myself.I think the Crystalite was in a different magazine than the Paranaturalist, Specialist, Jannisary and all the rest I'd mentioned.. I hope I can get info on those cool.. some of those, especially the janisary with a tweak, would be perfect for dark sun. A strait up Pioneer would be perfect for a member of the Order, or for someone pre-Order status..
Pioneer's would study psionics, and if they saw a weakness in an area, a need for a new ability, they'd go make one.. they gained extra abilities, extra powers I should say, every few levels that way.. it was quite nice..
Oopps, I didn't read very closely. I'll have to see if I can get ahold of that Dragon at the Library or something.
Well Sage & Lyric, that I can help you with :D
I know a lot of the old kits have already been converted, but it would be nice to know exactly which ones have and haven't, so people could finish converting them
Here are some other DS kits that weren't mentionned above:
Dragon 194
Slave Warrior
Raider
Veiled One - Veiled One (Athas.org)
Archanamach - Royal Defiler (Athas.org)
Chronicler
Tribal Priest
Caravaneer
Sycophant
Noble Psionicist
Untutored One
Dragon 231
Gray Chasseur
Pale
Obscure - Shadow Wizard (Athas.org)
Protector
Relic Seeker
Slayer
oooh, that untutored one was a great one! I wonder how that would cross over??
I feel that the wilder fills the niche in 3e that the untutored kit filled in 2e.
Anyone know what Dragon Magazine the Janissary, Specialist, Paranaturalist, and other such kits came from?
Anyone know what Dragon Magazine the Janissary, Specialist, Paranaturalist, and other such kits came from?
Yes, someone do :P . They come from Dragon 255:
Dragon 255
Charcoal Burner
Gatekeeper
Janissary
Militant Psionicist
Mind Mage
Mind Monk
Paranaturalist
Pioneer
Specialist Psionicist
Voice
plus, in another article, the Mindclouder Ninja and Shinobi Psionicist kits (for sake of completeness...)
Personnaly, I've begun working on the Gatekeeper and Voice PrC. Hope to post them sometime soon
Yes, someone do :P . They come from Dragon 255:
Dragon 255
Charcoal Burner
Gatekeeper
Janissary
Militant Psionicist
Mind Mage
Mind Monk
Paranaturalist
Pioneer
Specialist Psionicist
Voice
plus, in another article, the Mindclouder Ninja and Shinobi Psionicist kits (for sake of completeness...)
Personnaly, I've begun working on the Gatekeeper and Voice PrC. Hope to post them sometime soon
Thank you, you rock
now I need to find the info on those again (my bro has all the magazines, and he's in Alaska :P) Anyone have those available too?Question - Does anyone remember exactly which kits Nyt converted (mostly from the Gladiator's Handbook IIRC). Plus, does anyone know of a link to any of these - other than his site (as it's currently down)?
Its been done before and the WizOs don't seem to pull those off the boards.
2nd ed. kits - 3rd ed PrCs
The Will and the Way
Auditor - in the works by Methvezem (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=459060) & Kalthandrix (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=452687)
Beastmaster Psionicist - in the works by Sysane (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=460564)
Mercenary Psionicist
Noble Psionicist
Psiologist - in the works by Methvezem(http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=356936)
Sensei - Psionic Monk (http://athas.org)
Tribal Psionicist
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Kalthandrix is working on the Psiologist PrC, not the Auditor :P
I also have the Mercenary Psionicist in the works too!
Didn't the Complete Gladiator's Handbook have a bunch of kits? Some of those would probably make nice prestige classes.
Yes it did have a bunch of kits, and they would indeed.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Kalthandrix is working on the Psiologist PrC, not the Auditor :P
Well yeah, I know that. JEEZ
Yes it did have a bunch of kits, and they would indeed.
I can't seem to locate mine, but I definitely remember the Jaszt being a nice character concept.
Jon did a Pit Fighter (a back-alley gladiator, or one for those who don't have arenas), a great piece IMO, but had it removed from the DS PrCs.
If Nyt reads this thread he might post the PrCs.
Oh, and Sage, did you get copies of a few of those kits also? I was wondering which one you and I should work on first? I was thinking we'd look them over and see which ones would be easiest to translate "or" we could just start with whichever ones are our favorites.. (I really wanna revamp the crystalite ;) ) do you have my e-mail address?
Can somebody tell me how to enter those progression tables in those inset charts with the scroll bars? I assume some HTML is involved??
Oh, and Sage, did you get copies of a few of those kits also? I was wondering which one you and I should work on first? I was thinking we'd look them over and see which ones would be easiest to translate "or" we could just start with whichever ones are our favorites.. (I really wanna revamp the crystalite ;) ) do you have my e-mail address?
Use the '#' sign button after you have hi-lighted the area you want in the table. Then to get the spacing right, it is all spacebar, backspace, and preview post.
About the project- I will help out if you send the material over. I PMed you my e-mail address.
Can somebody tell me how to enter those progression tables in those inset charts with the scroll bars? I assume some HTML is involved??
Oh, and Sage, did you get copies of a few of those kits also? I was wondering which one you and I should work on first? I was thinking we'd look them over and see which ones would be easiest to translate "or" we could just start with whichever ones are our favorites.. (I really wanna revamp the crystalite ;) ) do you have my e-mail address?
I sent you an E-mail a while ago, but I guess you didn't get it. I've got the Crystalite, which is almost completely deviod of any real information
. I'm sending you the E-mail again... I assume that the E-mail you posted earilier was spelled correctly.Oh BTW, this concerns anyone interested in Psionics rules:
There is a compliation of all of the Mind's Eye material available on this site. Here's the link for those who can't be bothered to look for themselves
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20041029a
I suggest checking it out. There are a bunch of PrCs, Powers, Psionic Items, etc.
if I find any other things useful from my site to post I will throw it on another thread.
Thanks for the interest!
Ok, Sage and I are hashing over ideas on the Crystalite, did anyone else wanna put in thier views also?
Sure, where and when?
ok,to those involved with the crystalite project, I'm gonna be a bit hard to catch for a while, not long I hope, I'm going to need to replace the motherboard on my computer (if not other components as well) after needed repairs, I'll rejoin the nearly finished (I think) project. I'll need a copy of Sage's word doc when everyone else has finished looking it over and putting in their thoughts. for right now however, my computer is toast, and semi-reformated, so I doubt anything is left on my HD. I'll post again when I'm up and running and if you'd be so kind you can send me what we've got so far. K?
OK
BTW- Do you guys want the Hide Life psionic power posted seperatly or with the Crystallite? I do not know what the general thought was- is it to be a psi power or a class ability?
I do believe that we are almost finished- maybe!
BTW- Do you guys want the Hide Life psionic power posted seperatly or with the Crystallite? I do not know what the general thought was- is it to be a psi power or a class ability?
I think seperate would be good, along with maybe a few other choice powers hmm? :D
The reason I think we should post the hide life power, is because I'm going to assume it'll vary, if only slightly, from the spell of the same name.. ( as psionic powers often do ) unless you intended to merely use a description like "Hide Life, Psionic" and then make a note in the PrC about how our use of it applies to that class..
Also, I think the question was asked, something about if its a bonus power.. well, I think of it this way, anything a crystalite is not forced to know in order to take the PrC (a prerequisite power) is going to be a granted power. I don't want to force the player to learn a power after taking the PrC, just so he can use his most unique abilities. If it mimics a power or ability or is a variation of a power he did not have when he started the class, I'd prefer it be free, and separate to any other power he knows... I hope I understood the comment made earlier correctly..
BTW - while my computer use will be sporadic (a family member is nice enough to loan me time on theirs) I'll still be around so feel free to keep the e-mails and comments coming.
(again guys, sorry for the request, but while my computers being fixed, when I reply to e-mails, please forward them to the rest on the project so they can be kept up to date, thanks).