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Lord Soth

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#1
zombiegleemax
Jul 03, 2005 20:22:40 If I recollect correctly, Lord Soth eventually ended up with the ability to travel in shadows. Being somewhat short on books and on 3.XE knowledge, did that ability ever make it into the new rules and if so did they use it as a special ability, extr. ability, feat, or anything. If so do you know where it can be found or if you have created something similiar?
#2
darthsylver
Jul 04, 2005 3:06:02 Don't know, will look.
#3
Mortepierre
Jul 04, 2005 4:20:17 Soth is described p.266 of the WotL sourcebook (3.5E). He hasn't any shadow-teleport ability though.

The last time I saw stats including that ability, it was back in 2E when Soth was stuck in Ravenloft. Domains of Dread describes it as the ability to Shadow Walk at will anywhere within his domain of Sithicus.
#4
zombiegleemax
Jul 05, 2005 17:26:25 Not being in Sithicus would affect that ability wouldnt it?
#5
kalanth
Jul 06, 2005 1:18:08
Not being in Sithicus would affect that ability wouldnt it?

I would believe so. I don't think there are any hard facts on it, but I believe that the shadow walking was a direct result of such a creature in Ravenloft. I can't recall him doing it on Krynn.
#6
Mortepierre
Jul 06, 2005 2:34:24
I would believe so. I don't think there are any hard facts on it, but I believe that the shadow walking was a direct result of such a creature in Ravenloft. I can't recall him doing it on Krynn.

Actually, he did but it was described in the same novel (p.19, Knight of the Black Rose) that ended with him trapped in Ravenloft. So, no, Soth did have that power before becoming master of Sithicus (or even entering RL), although I don't recall any previous DL novel where he used it.
#7
darthsylver
Jul 06, 2005 13:28:51 It is possible that he might have been using a Divine spell, as he was a Knight of the Rose and they are spellcasters (to a limited degree). It is also possible that he might have been using a magic item (though I doubt that).
#8
vrykolas2k
Jul 12, 2005 22:27:00
Actually, he did but it was described in the same novel (p.19, Knight of the Black Rose) that ended with him trapped in Ravenloft. So, no, Soth did have that power before becoming master of Sithicus (or even entering RL), although I don't recall any previous DL novel where he used it.

I think he used it the first time he was introduced.
#9
frostdawn
Jul 13, 2005 9:39:35
It is possible that he might have been using a Divine spell, as he was a Knight of the Rose and they are spellcasters (to a limited degree). It is also possible that he might have been using a magic item (though I doubt that).

I think it was an innate ability. The novels never mentioned his making any gestures, or saying any words, or using any items, he just walked into a shadow and reappeared anywhere he wanted to within Sithicus. There were times he did this several times a day as well, and seemed sort of second nature to him. The weird thing is, if this was an ability he only had access to in Sithicus, then how was it he innately knew how to use it so flawlessly, and almost like second nature? I think he may have this ability on Krynn, with the caveat that there are more limitations there for him (like forces of good and holy sites that are absent in Sithicus, etc).
#10
darthsylver
Jul 13, 2005 18:41:42 From Domains of Dread pg 98. (a AD&D RL supplement)

"In addition, he can shadow walk to any point in Sithicus. He merely steps into one shadow and emerges from another at the desired location."

In 3.5E this would probably be a Spell-Like ability. It was bestowed upon him when he became a Darklord of Ravenloft, so he probably learned to use it then. Also as it states "anywhere in Sithicus" he probably could not use this outside of HIS realm. So when he was returned from Krynn (which he never "officially" visited) he probably could not use it.
#11
vrykolas2k
Jul 13, 2005 18:43:19
From Domains of Dread pg 98. (a AD&D RL supplement)

"In addition, he can shadow walk to any point in Sithicus. He merely steps into one shadow and emerges from another at the desired location."

In 3.5E this would probably be a Spell-Like ability. It was bestowed upon him when he became a Darklord of Ravenloft, so he probably learned to use it then. Also as it states "anywhere in Sithicus" he probably could not use this outside of HIS realm. So when he was returned from Krynn (which he never "officially" visited) he probably could not use it.

He was doing it before there was a Sithicus.
#12
Sylvaroth
Jul 14, 2005 6:02:53 Lord Soth is sometimes described as a being looking like an animated suit of armor that shows the signs of a fire (the cataclysm IIRC) with eyes that glow like embers. Sometimes he looks like a charred zombie wearing a black armor reminiscent of a Solamnian Knight of the Rose's, and then again he seems to be an ectoplasmic apparition that is more or less translucent.

IIRC Lord Soth first appeared out of the shadows while conversing with Kitiara (DL Chronicles). The last thing he did was picking up Kits dead body from the Tower of High Sorcery in Palanthus, taking her through the schadows directly to Dargaard (DL Legends?). Since he is a paladinecursed creature of evil, a force of nature (Death), the DL counterpart to an apocalyptic rider, the plane of shadows can be considered one of his natural pathways.

One of the fan created Lord Soth stats gave him the ability of Wraith Form, in which he was incorporeal and could shadow walk (instead of becoming ethereal or whatever ghosts do).
#13
darthsylver
Jul 15, 2005 21:01:19 Some research on Soth
In tales of the Lance he has gate\twice a day (ToTL 2E pg. 107) again in DL 15 Mists of Krynn pg. 125)

His helm acted as a Helm of Etherealness (DL 16 World of Krynn pg. 55)

So perhaps he was creative in his use of these powers. If he had any shadow walking ability (besides what is listed in Domains of Dread) then it ain't listed in any DL product.
#14
Prof._Pacali
Jul 17, 2005 17:15:01
In 3.5E this would probably be a Spell-Like ability.

Actually, I think it would be a supernatural ability. There is a difference, namely that spell-like abilities result in AOOs and can be disrupted.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Jul 03, 2005 20:22:40	If I recollect correctly, Lord Soth eventually ended up with the ability to travel in shadows. Being somewhat short on books and on 3.XE knowledge, did that ability ever make it into the new rules and if so did they use it as a special ability, extr. ability, feat, or anything. If so do you know where it can be found or if you have created something similiar?
#2 darthsylver Jul 04, 2005 3:06:02	Don't know, will look.
#3 Mortepierre Jul 04, 2005 4:20:17	Soth is described p.266 of the WotL sourcebook (3.5E). He hasn't any shadow-teleport ability though. The last time I saw stats including that ability, it was back in 2E when Soth was stuck in Ravenloft. Domains of Dread describes it as the ability to Shadow Walk at will anywhere within his domain of Sithicus.
#4 zombiegleemax Jul 05, 2005 17:26:25	Not being in Sithicus would affect that ability wouldnt it?
#5 kalanth Jul 06, 2005 1:18:08	Not being in Sithicus would affect that ability wouldnt it? I would believe so. I don't think there are any hard facts on it, but I believe that the shadow walking was a direct result of such a creature in Ravenloft. I can't recall him doing it on Krynn.
#6 Mortepierre Jul 06, 2005 2:34:24	I would believe so. I don't think there are any hard facts on it, but I believe that the shadow walking was a direct result of such a creature in Ravenloft. I can't recall him doing it on Krynn. Actually, he did but it was described in the same novel (p.19, Knight of the Black Rose) that ended with him trapped in Ravenloft. So, no, Soth did have that power before becoming master of Sithicus (or even entering RL), although I don't recall any previous DL novel where he used it.
#7 darthsylver Jul 06, 2005 13:28:51	It is possible that he might have been using a Divine spell, as he was a Knight of the Rose and they are spellcasters (to a limited degree). It is also possible that he might have been using a magic item (though I doubt that).
#8 vrykolas2k Jul 12, 2005 22:27:00	Actually, he did but it was described in the same novel (p.19, Knight of the Black Rose) that ended with him trapped in Ravenloft. So, no, Soth did have that power before becoming master of Sithicus (or even entering RL), although I don't recall any previous DL novel where he used it. I think he used it the first time he was introduced.
#9 frostdawn Jul 13, 2005 9:39:35	It is possible that he might have been using a Divine spell, as he was a Knight of the Rose and they are spellcasters (to a limited degree). It is also possible that he might have been using a magic item (though I doubt that). I think it was an innate ability. The novels never mentioned his making any gestures, or saying any words, or using any items, he just walked into a shadow and reappeared anywhere he wanted to within Sithicus. There were times he did this several times a day as well, and seemed sort of second nature to him. The weird thing is, if this was an ability he only had access to in Sithicus, then how was it he innately knew how to use it so flawlessly, and almost like second nature? I think he may have this ability on Krynn, with the caveat that there are more limitations there for him (like forces of good and holy sites that are absent in Sithicus, etc).
#10 darthsylver Jul 13, 2005 18:41:42	From Domains of Dread pg 98. (a AD&D RL supplement) "In addition, he can shadow walk to any point in Sithicus. He merely steps into one shadow and emerges from another at the desired location." In 3.5E this would probably be a Spell-Like ability. It was bestowed upon him when he became a Darklord of Ravenloft, so he probably learned to use it then. Also as it states "anywhere in Sithicus" he probably could not use this outside of HIS realm. So when he was returned from Krynn (which he never "officially" visited) he probably could not use it.
#11 vrykolas2k Jul 13, 2005 18:43:19	From Domains of Dread pg 98. (a AD&D RL supplement) "In addition, he can shadow walk to any point in Sithicus. He merely steps into one shadow and emerges from another at the desired location." In 3.5E this would probably be a Spell-Like ability. It was bestowed upon him when he became a Darklord of Ravenloft, so he probably learned to use it then. Also as it states "anywhere in Sithicus" he probably could not use this outside of HIS realm. So when he was returned from Krynn (which he never "officially" visited) he probably could not use it. He was doing it before there was a Sithicus.
#12 Sylvaroth Jul 14, 2005 6:02:53	Lord Soth is sometimes described as a being looking like an animated suit of armor that shows the signs of a fire (the cataclysm IIRC) with eyes that glow like embers. Sometimes he looks like a charred zombie wearing a black armor reminiscent of a Solamnian Knight of the Rose's, and then again he seems to be an ectoplasmic apparition that is more or less translucent. IIRC Lord Soth first appeared out of the shadows while conversing with Kitiara (DL Chronicles). The last thing he did was picking up Kits dead body from the Tower of High Sorcery in Palanthus, taking her through the schadows directly to Dargaard (DL Legends?). Since he is a paladinecursed creature of evil, a force of nature (Death), the DL counterpart to an apocalyptic rider, the plane of shadows can be considered one of his natural pathways. One of the fan created Lord Soth stats gave him the ability of Wraith Form, in which he was incorporeal and could shadow walk (instead of becoming ethereal or whatever ghosts do).
#13 darthsylver Jul 15, 2005 21:01:19	Some research on Soth In tales of the Lance he has gate\twice a day (ToTL 2E pg. 107) again in DL 15 Mists of Krynn pg. 125) His helm acted as a Helm of Etherealness (DL 16 World of Krynn pg. 55) So perhaps he was creative in his use of these powers. If he had any shadow walking ability (besides what is listed in Domains of Dread) then it ain't listed in any DL product.
#14 Prof._Pacali Jul 17, 2005 17:15:01	In 3.5E this would probably be a Spell-Like ability. Actually, I think it would be a supernatural ability. There is a difference, namely that spell-like abilities result in AOOs and can be disrupted.