Subject: Re: [MO] Chung-Eun in Chinese Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 10:35:38 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Johnson All right! I've found a good on-line Japanese dictionary, which gives the option of kanji displayed in ASCII - and so here are the kanji in 'Jikushiru,' given now as they actually should look! :-) %%,, %%,, %%%%% %%%%% %%%% ,%%, %%%% "%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%,, %%%% ,%%, ,, %%%% ,, %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%,,,,%%%%,,,,%%%%, %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%%""""%%%%""""%%%%" %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%%,,,,%%%%,,,,%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%""""%%%%""""%%%% "%%" %%%% "%%" %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% ,%%, %%%% %%%% %%%% "%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%%,,,,%%%%,,,,%%%% %%%% %%%%""""""""""""%%%% "%%" "%%" "%%" ('jiku,' meaning 'axis,' 'center,' or 'stem') ,%%%, ,,,%%%%%%%%% %%, ,,,,,%%%%%%%%%%""" %%%%%,,,%%%%%"""""%%%%" %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% ,%%, %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% "%%%% %%%% %%%%% %%%% %%%%% % %%%% %%%%%, %% %%%% %%%%%%,, %%% %%%%,,,,,,,,%%%""" "%%%%%%%,, %%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%""" ""%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%""" ""%%%%%%%%%%% "%%""" ""%%%%" (Real pronunciation 'uji' or 'shi', Jikushirugo pronunciation 'shiru' - basically means 'clan.') I also came across another kanji pronounced 'jiku' - this one meaning 'saffron.' Anyone have any preferences on whether 'Jikushiru' should mean 'axis clan' or 'saffron clan?' For reference, I'm putting the 'saffron' jiku below... %%,, %%,, %%%%% %%%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% ,%%, %%%% "%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%,, %%%% ,%%, %%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% ,%%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%%%%%, %%%% %%%% %%%% ,%%%%%"%%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%%%% "%%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%%%%% "%%" %%%% %%%% %%%% ,%%%%%%% %%%%,,,,,,,%%%%,,,,,,,%%%% ,%%%"%%%% %%%%"""""""%%%%"""""""%%%% ,%%" %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%" %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %" %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%% %%%% %%%% "%%" "%%" "%%" -- Scott Johnson | zagyg@io.com | This space intentionally left blank.