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#1disciple_of_darknessJul 14, 2005 11:10:04 | I've been wondering - is there any official errata of Dragonlance Campaign Setting? And about that High Sorcery part - while reading through the Wizard of the High Sorcery PrC, I began to think about the schools of magic: let's say a specialist wizard takes the PrC, a LN illusionist, for example, is it indeed a must to have all the banned schools (his original banned schools and the one that is banned upon receiving enhanced specialization) from the lists of the special schools of the other Orders besides the Red Robes? For example, can't he, indeed, have Evocation or Conjuration as a banned school? I would think so, given the wording of the requirement (I am aware that you can be a generalist wizard upon entering the PrC and don't have to lose access to any schools, since you don't get that enhanced specialization). And an another thing: all the White Robes are LG, NG and CG, and all the Black Robes are LE, NE and CE. Are the Red Robes all LN, N and CN, or does that "any neutral" also include NG and NE? Cheers. |
#2brimstoneJul 14, 2005 11:14:16 | I've been wondering - is there any official errata of Dragonlance Campaign Setting? Nothing official. There is this, though. |
#3zombiegleemaxJul 14, 2005 11:39:34 | You might want to look into the Towers of High Sorcery book to see how the PrC was changed. |
#4cam_banksJul 14, 2005 12:25:52 | The only banned school that needs to come from the other Orders' lists is the one the wizard acquires if they take the Arcane Focus option (which is the new name for "enhanced specialization"). So, yes, you could enter the Orders as a necromancer with evocation and conjuration as your two banned schools and be fine. As to the alignments, the Orders are aligned along the moral axis - good, evil, neutral. Red Robed wizards should be LN, N, or CN. Cheers, Cam |
#5zombiegleemaxJul 14, 2005 13:21:23 | So before taking arcane focus a WoHS specialist can specialize in anything? But can only take the focus in the schools that their orders are masters of? So you can have a Black Robe Abjurer and a White Robe Illusionist? |
#6disciple_of_darknessJul 15, 2005 12:24:36 | Thanks to you all. This is the second time when Cam Banks came up with a quick answer to my question, if my memory doesn't fail me - out of sheer gratitude (not having anything to do with the fact that I'm planning a Dragonlance adventure and running an Epic game involving at least one sea elf wizard (and possibly that gnome pirate, too, but I'm not so sure about that little bugger...), nope, this is just sheer gratitude) I shall buy The Towers of High Sorcery. But now I have an another question, once again concerning the Orders: when you become a renegade, it says that you lose all the benefits of your former Order, besides losing your benefits/drawbacks from the moons' phases, Tower resources and so on. Does that include the Order secrets? And I also suppose that should renegade reconsider, have a change of heart and mend his ways, he could return to the fold and not automatically become a Black Robe? Cheers. |
#7zombiegleemaxJul 15, 2005 12:56:56 | Not all mages who become renegades are evil. |
#8cam_banksJul 15, 2005 13:08:18 | But now I have an another question, once again concerning the Orders: when you become a renegade, it says that you lose all the benefits of your former Order, besides losing your benefits/drawbacks from the moons' phases, Tower resources and so on. Does that include the Order secrets? And I also suppose that should renegade reconsider, have a change of heart and mend his ways, he could return to the fold and not automatically become a Black Robe? Order secrets are a benefit of the prestige class, so yes - you lose those. They in part represent the closer relationship the wizard has with his or her moon/god of magic, and so turning from that relationship brings its own consequences. Cheers, Cam |
#9zombiegleemaxJul 15, 2005 13:19:50 | They would loose access to the moon magic too wouldnt they? |
#10old_sageJul 15, 2005 22:01:42 | They would loose access to the moon magic too wouldnt they? Renegade wizards no longer gain any benefits or suffer any penalties which rest solely on the basis of the phases of their moon of magic. |
#11zombiegleemaxJul 18, 2005 11:41:09 | What benefits would a renegade have now in 3.5? |
#12cam_banksJul 18, 2005 12:28:07 | What benefits would a renegade have now in 3.5? Look under "wizard" in the 3.5 Player's Handbook. Cheers, Cam |
#13zombiegleemaxJul 18, 2005 15:11:15 | What about wizards who passed the Test and choose NOT to take the PrC? they don't have the Moon Magic ability right, what´s their conection with their patron then? (i'm talking in game mechanics/rules, not role play) |
#14clarkvalentineJul 18, 2005 15:16:02 | What about wizards who passed the Test and choose NOT to take the PrC? they don't have the Moon Magic ability right, what´s their conection with their patron then? (i'm talking in game mechanics/rules, not role play) Mechanically, they have no strong connection to the moon gods. They're technically considered members of the order, but they're more akin to people who join a fraternity for the resume line item and don't actually participate in any of the events. |
#15cam_banksJul 18, 2005 15:21:25 | Mechanically, they have no strong connection to the moon gods. They're technically considered members of the order, but they're more akin to people who join a fraternity for the resume line item and don't actually participate in any of the events. This is pretty much exactly what it's like. Cheers, Cam |