Notice how both series are in trilogy formats?
Most series of books are these days.
Lord Soth and Lord Vader have often been compared. Amazingly enough, both speak with James Earl Jones' voice. :D
There's tons of other similarities. Strong female characters, epic action, humor, etc. etc.
It's late, so I'm too tired to give this much thought. lol
Lord Soth and Lord Vader have often been compared. Amazingly enough, both speak with James Earl Jones' voice. :D
I always thought of his voice as darker, more sinister than Vader. I actually can't think of any specific actor that I would say he most resembles, but maybe Gary Busey with laryngitis back in his Leathel Weapon 1 days?
But does anyone see the resemblence of the jedi/sith and the 3 orders of magic?
You know Dragonlance came well before the Star Wars prequels, right?
Cheers,
Cam
1. OMFG!!! Weiss and Hickman SO ripped off Star Wars!! It’s only a matter of time before Lucas sues them for all they’ve got, plus one !!!
2. Both Dragon Lance and Star Wars draw from the same source. That source being the archetypical mythology that can be seen repeating down through the ages over and over in the stories of mankind. Stories of the Hero’s Journey, where a boy becomes a hero by overcoming threats both internal and external. Stories of the struggle against darkness and oppression, where good makes a desperate stand against evil even though the chances of success seem razor slim. Stories of the eternal search for balance and tranquility both within ourselves and in the world around us. Stories of Love, and its amazing power to form unbreakable bonds between us all. Stories of those willing to sacrifice all for those they love. Stories that express not only the very essence of what it is to be human, but what humanity can ultimately become.
Personally, I’m betting for #1. :P
You know Dragonlance came well before the Star Wars prequels, right?
I'm not certain that was directed at the prequels. Many of the elements of Star Wars were established before Dragonlance. ;)
For example, there's the Jedi trials. Though not referenced as such in the original trilogy, you get the sense that every Jedi had a test which he must complete before becoming a Jedi. I wouldn't say DL ripped this off. Far from it. I would say this is a theme of fantasy literature that both borrowed from.
Also, in reference to the Jedi, I feel the Jedi Academy has many similarities to the Academy of Sorcery. The teaching methods are very similar.
Thing is, though, many similarities between the two settings are largely due to classic fantasy literature. A great example is that of the fallen knight, seen both in terms of Soth and Vader.
So if there are similarities, they're merely coincidence and largely due to the influence of classic fantasy literature.
I'm not certain that was directed at the prequels. Many of the elements of Star Wars were established before Dragonlance. ;)
For example, there's the Jedi trials. Though not referenced as such in the original trilogy, you get the sense that every Jedi had a test which he must complete before becoming a Jedi. I wouldn't say DL ripped this off. Far from it. I would say this is a theme of fantasy literature that both borrowed from.
Also, in reference to the Jedi, I feel the Jedi Academy has many similarities to the Academy of Sorcery. The teaching methods are very similar.
Thing is, though, many similarities between the two settings are largely due to classic fantasy literature. A great example is that of the fallen knight, seen both in terms of Soth and Vader.
So if there are similarities, they're merely coincidence and largely due to the influence of classic fantasy literature.
and the master apprentice thing whith Raistlin and Dalamar and the wanting all power where Raistlin defeats Fisthandantalous (or whatever his name is)
the black robes are like the sith
Does anyone see similarities to these two franchises? Characters, events, situations?
*Disbelief*
Notice how both series are in trilogy formats?
Most novels are in trilogy formats, believed to be started by a publishing company that split up J.R.R. Tolkien's book The Lord of the Rings into three volumes.
Also, Raistlin kind of resembles Anakin or Sideous
If you go by Elmore's take on Raistlin, DL was done long before the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy. And last I checked, Raistlin have this sickly yellow eyes with hourglass pupil and golden skin after taking the Test. Sideous/Palpatine (in original and "special edition DVD" versions) bears no similarity.
and the master apprentice thing whith Raistlin and Dalamar and the wanting all power where Raistlin defeats Fisthandantalous (or whatever his name is)
the black robes are like the sith
Let's not forget Palanthas too! Palanthas is a city, and Coruscant is ALSO a city (an even BIGGER one)! The similarity is just too obvious to miss! :P :D
Let's not forget Palanthas too! Palanthas is a city, and Coruscant is ALSO a city (an even BIGGER one)! The similarity is just too obvious to miss! :P :D
While I was thinking...I think I am going to change my answer...
In Second Generation and Dragons of Summer Flame....
Darth Sideous = Lord Ariaken
Anakin Skywalker = Steele Brightblade
See the storyline resemblence?
Darth Sideous = Lord Ariaken
Anakin Skywalker = Steele Brightblade
See the storyline resemblence?
Nope.
Cheers,
Cam
If you go by Elmore's take on Raistlin, DL was done long before the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy. And last I checked, Raistlin have this sickly yellow eyes with hourglass pupil and golden skin after taking the Test. Sideous/Palpatine (in original and "special edition DVD" versions) bears no similarity.
What about the golden eyes of Darth Maul and Darth Vader?
What about the golden eyes of Darth Maul and Darth Vader?
Now your just stretching.
While I was thinking...I think I am going to change my answer...
... um... answer to what?
In Second Generation and Dragons of Summer Flame....
Darth Sideous = Lord Ariaken
Anakin Skywalker = Steele Brightblade
See the storyline resemblence?
... no.
And Lord Ariakan manipulated the... Whitestone Council!!! and, and gain political power among the Solamnic governors, so he would rule all Northern Ansalon (since he already ruled Neraka, wich pretty similar to Naboo). And the took the child of a Solamnic as his apprentice and manipulated him to killed all jedis, I mean KoS and turn against Sarah Dunstan!
And then Sarah almost killed Steel in a duel at Sanction, and when Lord Ariakan found him turn him into an undead: The death knight everybody thinks is Lord Soth!!!
Man, i gotta get this novel!!!
Maybe there's a novel I didn't read, in fact all of us didn't read in which is mentioned that is Steel is the "chosen one". The chosen one will bring balance to... Krynnish Knightly Orders by perhaps destroying a... an Evil Knightly Order not yet created. But instead of he... joined this evil knights and killed all KoS, well just a few.
And Lord Ariakan manipulated the... Whitestone Council!!! and, and gain political power among the Solamnic governors, so he would rule all Northern Ansalon (since he already ruled Neraka, wich pretty similar to Naboo). And the took the child of a Solamnic as his apprentice and manipulated him to killed all jedis, I mean KoS and turn against Sarah Dunstan!
And then Sarah almost killed Steel in a duel at Sanction, and when Lord Ariakan found him turn him into an undead: The death knight everybody thinks is Lord Soth!!!
Man, i gotta get this novel!!!
Steele Brightblade aint Lord Soth. Steele is the son of Kitiara and Sturm. So he's gotta choose what path to take. In the end he comits the ultimate sacrafice when fighting against Chaos with Caramon's sons that become knights. Ariaken promises him power if he joins the dark nights of Neraka.
Steele Brightblade aint Lord Soth. Steele is the son of Kitiara and Sturm. So he's gotta choose what path to take. In the end he comits the ultimate sacrafice when fighting against Chaos with Caramon's sons that become knights. Ariaken promises him power if he joins the dark nights of Neraka.
Dude, that was over your head a bit there, I guess. He was mocking you and your desperate attempts to find some random things that are related between the two franchises. The Star Wars is like DL (and vice versa) argument has been made before and we have explained all the reasons why they are similar.
I'll need to see this topic 'cuz I don't really see alot of similarities. Actually, I don't see any. Maybe I should read the books again... while I'm high.
Heh, heh! While you're still high, you might as well read "The Lord of the Rings" too. It's a trilogy and the Nazgul wear black, hooded robes, so they're clearly Sith... ;)
In my mind there is only one similarity that stands out with blinding coincidence to me. I truly believe that Ewan McGregor would make a truly awesome Tanthalas in a DL movie. It is simply no contest to me.
It's said there are only 6 major plot devices that can be used in a story. So if you figure that the above statement is true, well...there has been alot of repeating over the last few thousand years! Of course there are a couple of similarities between SW and DL. And there are similarities between FR and SW, and FR and DL and LotR and SW. It is unavoidable. You just gotta get past it.
In my mind there is only one similarity that stands out with blinding coincidence to me. I truly believe that Ewan McGregor would make a truly awesome Tanthalas in a DL movie. It is simply no contest to me.
who's that? Tanis? Orlando Bloom would make a good Dalamar and Christopher Lee would be a good Fistandantilus.
who's that? Tanis? Orlando Bloom would make a good Dalamar and Christopher Lee would be a good Fistandantilus.
Perhaps, but I do not like recycling LOTR actors. A DL film got to have its own unique casting of actors and actresses.
I was actually thinking of the O'Connell twins.
Who?
who's that? Tanis? Orlando Bloom would make a good Dalamar and Christopher Lee would be a good Fistandantilus.
Orlando Bloom can play a nameless goblin who gets slaughtered.
any pictures or website?
Must the Majere brothers be identical?
Wait a sec... i just noticed, both stories involve twins!!!
Its a sign! We are fated to be exactly the same no matter how original we are! :D
Vegita = Raistlin
Gouku = Caramon
Vader/Anakin VS Raistlin...I'd say Raistlin
Ariakis VS Sidious...I'd say Sideous
Then:
Sideous VS Raistlin
Raistlin will win hands down. I mean he defeated Fistandantilus and Takhisis (in alternate timeline).
Also, not even Lord Soth (as a death knight) tried to harm Raistlin because he knew that Raistlin was more powerful than he.