Thoughts?
At the time, Hammanu was still seeing red from his village being wiped out by Trolls. Rajaat exploited this by using him as a guinea pig to turn him into the ultimate champion, then unleashed him on Myron who he knew was starting to falter allegiance-wise. Hammanu duked it out with Myron and slew him, then claimed his prize, the Scorcher. It was an easy battle too since Rajaat made him immune to all of his swords minus the Silencer which was lost thanks to Irikos.
The rest is history.
That's my take on it anyways. If I remember correctly some of this might have come from RaFoaDK, but I could be mistaken, I need to read over Lynn's notes again.
I would think that instead, Rajaat trapped Myron somewhere, allowing him to see the world succumb to the Champions Armies as the Cleansing Wars unfolded- Rajaat having allowed him to see all the death and how eventually, the human race would be removed from Athas, leaving the halflings to be the rulers of the world once more.
Here is an interesting thought. Let us pretend for a moment the Myron and Daskinor are in fact twin brothers, both coming to serve Rajaat before the Wars. Now with Mryon imprisoned, paranoia sets in and Daskinor starts to worry about his own life- so he joins the rebellion to remove Rajaat.
Thousands of years pass, and Daskinor starts loosing his sanity- through no fault of his own, but do to the insanity that is gripping his brother Myron. The connection that they share and their mastery of the way is allowing Myron’s increasing insanity to penetrate the barriers that Rajaat set in place due to Myron's power and the fact that the wards have not been maintained by anyone- Rajaat thought he would be around to do so and thought nothing of it.
Now I know that all of this is just hypothetical and not canon- but it makes some interesting reading and opens up several possibilities that would allow Myron to come back.
The more I think about it, the more I think he pulled a Hammanu, and was actually growing a conscience.
At the time, Hammanu was still seeing red from his village being wiped out by Trolls. Rajaat exploited this by using him as a guinea pig to turn him into the ultimate champion, then unleashed him on Myron who he knew was starting to falter allegiance-wise. Hammanu duked it out with Myron and slew him, then claimed his prize, the Scorcher. It was an easy battle too since Rajaat made him immune to all of his swords minus the Silencer which was lost thanks to Irikos.
The rest is history.
That's my take on it anyways. If I remember correctly some of this might have come from RaFoaDK, but I could be mistaken, I need to read over Lynn's notes again.
If you go by the offical time line, it simply states that Mryon was "replaced". I'm wondering if he was actually slain "offically". Its been a long while since I've read RaFoaDK, but I really don't concider that canon source. Granted, maybe something could be gleaned from it or Lynn's notes.
Thousands of years pass, and Daskinor starts loosing his sanity- through no fault of his own, but do to the insanity that is gripping his brother Myron. The connection that they share and their mastery of the way is allowing Myron’s increasing insanity to penetrate the barriers that Rajaat set in place due to Myron's power and the fact that the wards have not been maintained by anyone- Rajaat thought he would be around to do so and thought nothing of it.
Interesting take.
I still think aof Daskinor as the one who cast the spell to imprison Rajaat, or at least helped in it, and that caused him to go insane. But that's a take Xlorep and I sahre, though he came up with it first and I just agreed with it, heh.
If you go by the offical time line, it simply states that Mryon was "replaced". I'm wondering if he was actually slain "offically". Its been a long while since I've read RaFoaDK, but I really don't concider that canon source. Granted, maybe something could be gleaned from it or Lynn's notes.
Officialy nothing that I know of says he was slain.
However, and for those reading RaFoaDK now correct me if I am wrong, but the book does go into it a bit, and I'm pretty sure he was slain.
Now whether you except that book as official or not is your perogative. I accept some of it as official and some of it as myth.
I would like to hypothesize that he was not killed- but instead he was imprisoned by the War Bringer- maybe in the Pristine Tower or in the swamps that Rajaat created during his experiments with arcane magic. Death would have been too quick and permanent a solution; one that I believe Rajaat would not chose to hand out.
Thats exactly what I'm trying to get at. He could have been punished in some way rather than simply put in the dead book. I'm trying to see if there are any canon souses that may discredit this theory.
Officialy nothing that I know of says he was slain.
However, and for those reading RaFoaDK now correct me if I am wrong, but the book does go into it a bit, and I'm pretty sure he was slain.
Now whether you except that book as official or not is your perogative. I accept some of it as official and some of it as myth.
There was some good stuff in that book excluding the end which got a little kooky
.Officialy nothing that I know of says he was slain.
However, and for those reading RaFoaDK now correct me if I am wrong, but the book does go into it a bit, and I'm pretty sure he was slain.
Now whether you except that book as official or not is your perogative. I accept some of it as official and some of it as myth.
RaFoaDK does have him as slain by Hamanu. And like Nyt, I except some of it as official and some of it as myth (or the distortions of an old man's memories).
The more I think about it, the more I think he pulled a Hammanu, and was actually growing a conscience.
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That's my take on it anyways. If I remember correctly some of this might have come from RaFoaDK, but I could be mistaken, I need to read over Lynn's notes again.
In my Athas, I actually will have the PC's get sent back in time by Oronis, at which time the characters will interact with Myron, giving him some insight into the blasted dead world that he is helping to create. This will give him a guilt trip and ultimatly lead to his being imprisioned but Rajaat.
As for Rise and Fall- it has been years since I read it- I only read it once when it first came out- But from what I remember I liked alot of it excedpt the end, which IMHO really sucked :headexplo .
There was some good stuff in that book excluding the end which got a little kooky
Yeah, the end was horrible, no qualms there.
anyway.
i could have sworn that somewhere there's mention made that myron began to question the whole crusade of rajaat's. implying that MAYBE he was developing feelings of wrong-doing or feeling bad for what he'd done and was planning to stop rajaat. maybe in psionic artifacts? or the timeline?
myron and irikos were likely the most powerful and oldest of the lackeys. and expected to be the most loyal, what with the seniority and all. i've always understood it to be the case that myron's inefficient culling of trolls was an attempt to either buy for time or stall while he worked out some plan, but that ultimately rajaat caught wind and fed him to manu.
maybe Myron was the original "Great One" proto-avangion? and secretly undermining the cleansing wars?
afterall . . .
myron and irikos were originally killing off the preserver opposition. what better way to defeat your enemy than to know as much about them as possible. what better way to know your enemy than to become your enemy?
in the course of the preserver jihad maybe Myron picked up a few tidbits here and there, including something to switch him over to the other side so to speak.
just some thoughts from 4 in the morning in korea
nic
hey, just cuz the end was different, don't make it bad.
From a literary standpoint it was horrible! Had nothing to do with whether it was different or not, especially since I like different.
When the sole reason for doing it is because you want to take a character that you love and tuck him safely away somewhere where he won't be affected by the oncoming changes of the official world that you disagree with, that's a bad way of doing things in literary work. Hell, Lynn even admits this, but really didn't like what they were going to do next with the setting (which was the whole space halfling invasion thing), and I don't blame her, but still, it was bad form and came close to ruining the book for me.
Everything up until that point though was great and is probably one of the better DS novels out there aside from the Prism Pentad.
The more I think about it, the more I think he pulled a Hammanu, and was actually growing a conscience.
Exactly the contrary my friend. Myron's task was to eradicate the trolls, but for many a hundred years now he hadn't been doing that. Instead he corraled trolls using his human armies, and when enough trolls were concentrated in one place, he came himself on the battlefield and personally slew them using the Eyes of Fire (Hamanu later confessed its use was the most obscene pleasure he ever felt).
As such, he wasn't cleansing them but cullin them, and when Rajaat found out Myron ws punished.
The fact he had stoped cleansing the trolls might lead someone to believe he grew a conscience, but the fact he killed many others using the most obscene killing weapon at his disposal, and that thousands of innocent humans (nonsoldiers) died in those corraling maneuvers, shows exactly the contrary.
That's my take on it anyways. If I remember correctly some of this might have come from RaFoaDK, but I could be mistaken, I need to read over Lynn's notes again.
Heh, AFAIK the only source of info on Myron's demise is in RaFoaDK.
Exactly the contrary my friend. Myron's task was to eradicate the trolls, but for many a hundred years now he hadn't been doing that. Instead he corraled trolls using his human armies, and when enough trolls were concentrated in one place, he came himself on the battlefield and personally slew them using the Eyes of Fire (Hamanu later confessed its use was the most obscene pleasure he ever felt).
As such, he wasn't cleansing them but cullin them, and when Rajaat found out Myron ws punished.
The fact he had stoped cleansing the trolls might lead someone to believe he grew a conscience, but the fact he killed many others using the most obscene killing weapon at his disposal, and that thousands of innocent humans (nonsoldiers) died in those corraling maneuvers, shows exactly the contrary.
Is this from RaFoaDK?
Exactly the contrary my friend. Myron's task was to eradicate the trolls, but for many a hundred years now he hadn't been doing that. Instead he corraled trolls using his human armies, and when enough trolls were concentrated in one place, he came himself on the battlefield and personally slew them using the Eyes of Fire (Hamanu later confessed its use was the most obscene pleasure he ever felt).
As such, he wasn't cleansing them but cullin them, and when Rajaat found out Myron ws punished.
The fact he had stoped cleansing the trolls might lead someone to believe he grew a conscience, but the fact he killed many others using the most obscene killing weapon at his disposal, and that thousands of innocent humans (nonsoldiers) died in those corraling maneuvers, shows exactly the contrary.
Ok, wow. Definately shows how long it's been since I've read the book.
That's definately a better reason behind everything that went on during that fiasco as well.
Is this from RaFoaDK?
Yes Sysane, like I said there is no other source of info on him besides that book. The Timeline keeps it very very vague.
I've read hundreds of books in my life and the ending of RaFoaDK didn't ring any alarm bells them and still doesn't ring them now when I read it again.
It didn't for me at first either, but then I thought about it more.
Plus talking personally with the author about it helps too. she did the ending for a specific reason, and that was to save Hammanu from the designers at the time. It was also because she was rushed if I remember correctly, but that had more to do with how quickly she got to the ending, then the ending in and of itself.
I wonder if theres anything in the 2e DS revised box set under the Champions' profiles that states if Myron was slain?
Well, since the timeline is based off the complete DS works, I seriously doubt it.
However, I just happen to have the Revised box set handy so let me take a look.
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Ok, there is and he was killed.
"Myron, the 4th Champion: Myron of Yorum, the Troll Scorcher, displeased Rajaat. The Troll Scorcher was killed by Hamanu, who then took this Champion’s place at Rajaat’s side."
Under the Champions and Sorcerer Kings entry btw.
Yes Sysane, like I said there is no other source of info on him besides that book. The Timeline keeps it very very vague.
Thats the way I like it. Gives the DM some literary license with the exact details on what happened him.
Well, since the timeline is based off the complete DS works, I seriously doubt it.
However, I just happen to have the Revised box set handy so let me take a look.
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Ok, there is and he was killed.
"Myron, the 4th Champion: Myron of Yorum, the Troll Scorcher, displeased Rajaat. The Troll Scorcher was killed by Hamanu, who then took this Champion’s place at Rajaat’s side."
Under the Champions and Sorcerer Kings entry btw.
Nice. It kept it very vague and open for personal interpretation.
Nice. It kept it very vague and open for personal interpretation.
Not sure how it saying he was killed is being vague.
Unless you are talking about the way he was killed, which was left vague. None the less he was killed though.
Exactly the contrary my friend. Myron's task was to eradicate the trolls, but for many a hundred years now he hadn't been doing that. Instead he corraled trolls using his human armies, and when enough trolls were concentrated in one place, he came himself on the battlefield and personally slew them using the Eyes of Fire (Hamanu later confessed its use was the most obscene pleasure he ever felt).
As such, he wasn't cleansing them but cullin them, and when Rajaat found out Myron ws punished.
The fact he had stoped cleansing the trolls might lead someone to believe he grew a conscience, but the fact he killed many others using the most obscene killing weapon at his disposal, and that thousands of innocent humans (nonsoldiers) died in those corraling maneuvers, shows exactly the contrary.
Yah it seems Myron was much more concerned with horribly killing trolls for his own pleasure then actually eradicating the species. His problem was that he was too insanely vengful in his task, and not nearly efficient enough for Rajaat's tastes.
Yah it seems Myron was much more concerned with horribly killing trolls for his own pleasure then actually eradicating the species. His problem was that he was too insanely vengful in his task, and not nearly efficient enough for Rajaat's tastes.
You got it buddy.
Not sure how it saying he was killed is being vague.
Unless you are talking about the way he was killed, which was left vague. None the less he was killed though.
Errrr...I must have been cracked out when I first read that. Thats what I get for posting at the end of the work day.
Errrr...I must have been cracked out when I first read that. Thats what I get for posting at the end of the work day.
Ok, I thought you were going somewhere with this, but wasn't sure, lol.
It's all good, I do the same thing sometimes.
So which is the offical stand point? The time line or the description in the revised box set?
I would say the latter and the former needs to be updated.
I would say the latter and the former needs to be updated.
Amen
One thing athas.org should definately be allowed to modify for its own purposes is the content of the Timeline, it would help get rid of many problematic details, and clarify things by adding a word or phrase here and there.
Amen
One thing athas.org should definately be allowed to modify for its own purposes is the content of the Timeline, it would help get rid of many problematic details, and clarify things by adding a word or phrase here and there.
I'm all for that!
I'm all for that!
I am as well. Heck, I wouldn't mind athas.org having storyline advancing rights and all sorts of cool powers to do with Dark Sun's fate. For some reason, however, I doubt that Wizards will be as cooperative as the members of this board.
I am as well. Heck, I wouldn't mind athas.org having storyline advancing rights and all sorts of cool powers to do with Dark Sun's fate. For some reason, however, I doubt that Wizards will be as cooperative as the members of this board.
They are allowed to advance the storyline -- however chose not to. Athas.org is allowed to update the rules to 3.5e, add in new flavor, and release new (or never-been-released/partially completed) products. They cannot use any of the flavor from the already released 2e books (the "fluff" text giving descriptions in full about the setting, or any of the images from them), which is why the athas.org core rules are lacking in setting information. Of course, nothing is stopping them from releasing new flavor/fluff material (I believe) about the setting, as long as it isn't plagerized.
They are allowed to advance the storyline -- however chose not to. Athas.org is allowed to update the rules to 3.5e, add in new flavor, and release new (or never-been-released/partially completed) products. They cannot use any of the flavor from the already released 2e books (the "fluff" text giving descriptions in full about the setting, or any of the images from them), which is why the athas.org core rules are lacking in setting information. Of course, nothing is stopping them from releasing new flavor/fluff material (I believe) about the setting, as long as it isn't plagerized.
If thas the case, I'd like see the Kreen Invasion or/and the Rhulisti/Messenger story line advance. :D
If thas the case, I'd like see the Kreen Invasion or/and the Rhulisti/Messenger story line advance. :D
Well, first they are working on getting the conversion done, which takes time (as we're all painfully aware). After that, who knows? There's the rest of Dregoth Ascending and Secrets of the Deadlands to complete, as well.
They are allowed to advance the storyline -- however chose not to. Athas.org is allowed to update the rules to 3.5e, add in new flavor, and release new (or never-been-released/partially completed) products. They cannot use any of the flavor from the already released 2e books (the "fluff" text giving descriptions in full about the setting, or any of the images from them), which is why the athas.org core rules are lacking in setting information. Of course, nothing is stopping them from releasing new flavor/fluff material (I believe) about the setting, as long as it isn't plagerized.
"Chose not to" is perhaps not the best way of phrasing it ... we elected to focus on different things first.
We're not allowed to reproduce the fluff text of previous material; basically, that would be plagurism, as WotC has not assigned us the copyrights, or rights to reproduce those materials. That's not to say that we can't write new flavortext to replace old material. We chose to focus our efforts where they could be of the most benefit, however. Writing a new WJ is a lot of work, and we wouldn't be providing anything all that new in the process. Most everyone here owns a treeware copy of DS1 or DS2, and you can get them both for $5 online.
Plus, one of the goals for the "official sites" effort was to drive sales for 3e material, and potentially move some of the back cataloug as well. The concept was sold to the top brass at WotC as a wise business decision, which it is.
We are advancing the timeline, however. At the moment, it's just been through the release of Dregoth Ascending, but there will be other things to come; other threads to follow. And while some of our other adventures aren't as world-shattering as DA is, there is still a measure of advancement there. large, campaign shaping events have to be dealt with carefully; I don't think dashing out the Kreen invasion over the course of a week would benefit anyone.
I would like to hypothesize that he was not killed- but instead he was imprisoned by the War Bringer- maybe in the Pristine Tower or in the swamps that Rajaat created during his experiments with arcane magic. Death would have been too quick and permanent a solution; one that I believe Rajaat would not chose to hand out.
I would think that instead, Rajaat trapped Myron somewhere, allowing him to see the world succumb to the Champions Armies as the Cleansing Wars unfolded- Rajaat having allowed him to see all the death and how eventually, the human race would be removed from Athas, leaving the halflings to be the rulers of the world once more.
Here is an interesting thought. Let us pretend for a moment the Myron and Daskinor are in fact twin brothers, both coming to serve Rajaat before the Wars. Now with Mryon imprisoned, paranoia sets in and Daskinor starts to worry about his own life- so he joins the rebellion to remove Rajaat.
Thousands of years pass, and Daskinor starts loosing his sanity- through no fault of his own, but do to the insanity that is gripping his brother Myron. The connection that they share and their mastery of the way is allowing Myron’s increasing insanity to penetrate the barriers that Rajaat set in place due to Myron's power and the fact that the wards have not been maintained by anyone- Rajaat thought he would be around to do so and thought nothing of it.
Now I know that all of this is just hypothetical and not canon- but it makes some interesting reading and opens up several possibilities that would allow Myron to come back.
I agree with Kalthandrix, Myron wasn't killed he was imprisoned for making Rajaat angry by becoming an Avangion (the real First one) and was imprisoned in Rajaat's Citadel in the lands west of the Kreen lands. The idea that he was Daskinors brother is Brilliant and plan on using that in my campaign. OUTSTANDING ideas. Flay those Halflings (medium Well)
hey, just cuz the end was different, don't make it bad.
anyway.
i could have sworn that somewhere there's mention made that myron began to question the whole crusade of rajaat's. implying that MAYBE he was developing feelings of wrong-doing or feeling bad for what he'd done and was planning to stop rajaat. maybe in psionic artifacts? or the timeline?
myron and irikos were likely the most powerful and oldest of the lackeys. and expected to be the most loyal, what with the seniority and all. i've always understood it to be the case that myron's inefficient culling of trolls was an attempt to either buy for time or stall while he worked out some plan, but that ultimately rajaat caught wind and fed him to manu.
maybe Myron was the original "Great One" proto-avangion? and secretly undermining the cleansing wars?
afterall . . .
myron and irikos were originally killing off the preserver opposition. what better way to defeat your enemy than to know as much about them as possible. what better way to know your enemy than to become your enemy?
in the course of the preserver jihad maybe Myron picked up a few tidbits here and there, including something to switch him over to the other side so to speak.
just some thoughts from 4 in the morning in korea
nic
IMPRESSIVE Nic I was in Iraq when the same idea came to me. How's Korea? Scott
I agree with Kalthandrix, Myron wasn't killed he was imprisoned for making Rajaat angry by becoming an Avangion (the real First one) and was imprisoned in Rajaat's Citadel in the lands west of the Kreen lands. The idea that he was Daskinors brother is Brilliant and plan on using that in my campaign. OUTSTANDING ideas. Flay those Halflings (medium Well)
Too bad it's way off cannon. :P
Too each his own I guess.
I still think aof Daskinor as the one who cast the spell to imprison Rajaat, or at least helped in it, and that caused him to go insane. But that's a take Xlorep and I sahre, though he came up with it first and I just agreed with it, heh.
If you recall, I wrote up that piece regarding Daskinor imprisioning Rajaat through the use of the Way, utilizing properties of the plane of Shadow, and the use to which he put it is what drove him insane. I'm not sure if that came before or after Xlorep's take, but I don't recall ever reading Xlorep's idea. Is there a link to it somewhere?
(I'm really groovin' on the whole "Twin brothers....imprisoned Myron...psychic link...Daskinor taking on brother's insanity..." thing. The problem being Myron was killed...hrm...though supposed he became undead. That is the source of his brother's insanity. His twin is insane because of undeath, and he can see it in his head.)
(I'm really groovin' on the whole "Twin brothers....imprisoned Myron...psychic link...Daskinor taking on brother's insanity..." thing. The problem being Myron was killed...hrm...though supposed he became undead. That is the source of his brother's insanity. His twin is insane because of undeath, and he can see it in his head.)
Theres the possibility that Myron may have used that link to channel his psyche into Daskinor shortly after being put to death by Rajaat. After many centuries of lying dormant it could be that Myron is trying to assert control subliminally over his brother which is the cause of Daskinor's paranoia. The "voice" in his head could be that of Myron.
How about this idea- His souls is actually in the Scorcher. Here is the thought process behind that idea. Being a weapon of purpose- as he was cut down by Hamanu he wanted revenge against Rajaat and wished to be around to see him destroyed- he got his wish but the Scorcher becoming the receptical of his soul. This would still allow him to have the psychic contact with his "twin" and he is slowly becoming insane for the same reasons that the Mind Lords are- no physical body. I cannot remember if the Scorcher was used by Hamanu to kill Myron, but even if it was this idea would still be a valid one- the killing stroke pulled in Myron's soul.
Myron's subtile influence could have also been the cause for Hamanu learning of Rajaats long term plans for his Champions- which would be a good reason to explain why and how Hamanu learned of it and took the information to Borys which lead to the Champions fighting Rajaat. It might also be the reason that Hanamu later threw the sword away- Myron's slow slide into insanity was starting to effect him- why else would such a powerful weapon just be thrown into the Silt Sea. If he really did not want it in someone elses hands to later be used against him I am sure he would have been able to find a means to destroy it- or better yet keep it himself under lock and key in one of his own secure vaults. Throwing it away just does not seem logical- but maybe Myron was able to influence him enough to get away from his killer and find his way into someone elses hands to further his own goals- like maybe getting to Daskinor in the north.
It would be cool if you did one or the other but not both.
It would be cool if you did one or the other but not both.
My opinion is somewhat to the contrary. Think of the possibilities for a post-Dregoth Ascending party who decides to keep the Scorcher, and has the power to back up their betrayal of the Sorcerer Kings - at least by enough to give the dragon dudes some pause to gather their power before they go after the puny mortals. Daskinor, slowly being driven insane by the psychic calling of his brother from within the sword, finally snaps and invades the Tablelands at the head of his army.
He sweeps over the countryside, easily taking the nigh-abandoned Fort Ral for the base of his operations (see CSoD), and perhaps even unlocks some ancient and mystical powers from deep within the ruins beneath, or garners the aid of a pre-Cleansing Wars society trapped since the building of the citadel. Azetuk attempts to beat back the hordes; his degree of sucess likely depends on whether or not you buy him being under the control of Tec. Regardless, Draj is suddenly open to invasion on the other front. The other SKs certainly aren't going to let an opportunity like that one pass them by, and so the PCs are able to go unnoticed in the conflict, at lest temporarily.
But what if Myron decides to start trying to exert his control on his wielder?
Now imagine the fun if, say, a Zik-Chil invasion came along at the same time. Can you say "chaos?"
You could easily use that same story arch but have it that Myron finally exerts his mental dominance over Daskinor and uses him to deal out his revenge against Hammanu and sacks Urik. Before doing so, Myron/Daskinor sends out a hoard of his minions to find the Scorcher which lies in the PCs possession.
The climax of the adventure could be that the PCs need to enter Myron's/Daskinor's mind and battle their way thru a mindscape filled with mental specters from both the Champions' pasts in order to free Daskinor's suppressed psyche. In doing so they allow him to regain control (and his sanity) and ending the bloody conflict.
Theres the possibility that Myron may have used that link to channel his psyche into Daskinor shortly after being put to death by Rajaat. After many centuries of lying dormant it could be that Myron is trying to assert control subliminally over his brother which is the cause of Daskinor's paranoia. The "voice" in his head could be that of Myron.
Funny that you mention this right when I just got done watching Batman Beyond: The Return of the Joker. ;)
I like this better than the undead or imprisoned idea anyways.
I cannot remember if the Scorcher was used by Hamanu to kill Myron, but even if it was this idea would still be a valid one- the killing stroke pulled in Myron's soul.
Nope, and Hammanu was immune to the Scorcher's effects, so it wasn't real high priority for him to nab it from Myron either.
As far as I know, Hammanu killed Myron without the Scorcher's help. Still possible for him to animate the sword before Hammnu picks it up though.
If you recall, I wrote up that piece regarding Daskinor imprisioning Rajaat through the use of the Way, utilizing properties of the plane of Shadow, and the use to which he put it is what drove him insane. I'm not sure if that came before or after Xlorep's take, but I don't recall ever reading Xlorep's idea. Is there a link to it somewhere?
I forgot about that, so maybe Xlorep got the idea from your's or his might be a bit different.
I'll have to go hunting for the thread or maybe Xlorep remembers which one it is?
Funny that you mention this right when I just got down watching Batman Beyond: The Return of the Joker. ;)
I like this better than the undead or imprisoned idea anyways.
Good flick. I loved BB. Good stuff.
We already have undead (Dregoth) and imprisoned (Andy & Kalid-Ma) SKs why not a possessed one.
Good flick. I loved BB. Good stuff.
Yeah, I loved it when it was on, too bad it got cancelled.
Oh well, still holding out for a live-action movie someday. After the successful revitalization of the Batman line thanks to Batman Begins it will probably be reality sooner than later.
We already have undead (Dregoth) and imprisoned (Andy & Kalid-Ma) SKs why not a possessed one.
Precisely!
Let's mix it up a bit instead of cloning all the good ideas.
Yeah, I loved it when it was on, too bad it got cancelled.
Oh well, still holding out for a live-action movie someday. After the successful revitalization of the Batman line thanks to Batman Begins it will probably be reality sooner than later.
They've had some Batman Beyond story lines going on Justice League Unlimited. Pretty good ones at that.
Precisely!
Let's mix it up a bit instead of cloning all the good ideas.
I'm totally using the Myron/Daskinor brother pysche connection possession thing for my campaign once I'm done with DA.
Not sure which way I am totally going yet.
I'm thinking of keeping him with multiple personalities and just having Myron being one of those that's trying to gain total control.
Not sure which way I am totally going yet.
Hello "Tribe of One outbreak"!! :D
Hello "Tribe of One outbreak"!! :D
I don't see where being possessed is anyway related to Sorak.
Theres the possibility that Myron may have used that link to channel his psyche into Daskinor shortly after being put to death by Rajaat. After many centuries of lying dormant it could be that Myron is trying to assert control subliminally over his brother which is the cause of Daskinor's paranoia. The "voice" in his head could be that of Myron.
Niiiice
That was why Rajaat replaced Myron with Hamanu, who had a genuine grudge against the troll race.
Is there any clues where the eyes of fire are in the decade of heroes or after?