Greyhawk City Set

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#1

zombiegleemax

Aug 19, 2005 13:46:36
Way back in early 2nd Edition, there was a boxed set brought out for the City of Greyhawk itself. As Greyhawk is the main default campaign setting for 3rd edition, is there going to be an updated edition 3.5 Greyhawk Boxed Set?

It just seems to me that the setting information could use some updating and all.
#2

mordo

Aug 19, 2005 14:38:51
I wouldn't count on it, Wizards have been ignoring WoG since they said that Greyhawk was the core setting. The best you can get it's Living Greyhawk Gazetteer, The various Living Greyhawk Journal, with #2 including a map of the City of Greyhawk. Btw issue #2 is the rarest of all. You can still get issue 1,3-5 on Paizo store, as for the rest they are include in various Dragon and Dungeon mags.
#3

mitchell

Aug 19, 2005 19:53:43
Yep... They pretty much decided to leave Greyhawk as little more than a cipher that every individual DM can work out the details of as they please or as they find the information in various other sources, but nothing in the way of a book seems likely.
Dungeon and Dragon magazines are your best bet, but often these are polybagged, so advanced scouting isn't always possible.
Shame, really... I like the realms well enough, I guess, but Greyhawk was the first world I played in, and it will always be remembered fondly.
#4

primemover003

Aug 19, 2005 20:04:51
If you like greyhawk then you should drop in over at Paizo.com. Erik Mona (the editor) is a HUGE fan of GH and there is a lot of content coming in the next few months. So far this year we've seen a update of Hardby, are in the middle of an Adventure Path set near the Free City. Check it out!
#5

zombiegleemax

Aug 21, 2005 0:58:45
I have that boxed set, and it's still pretty easy to use in 3.5.

With a little work you can convert it very easily.
#6

zombiegleemax

Aug 21, 2005 4:25:29
I have that boxed set, and it's still pretty easy to use in 3.5.

With a little work you can convert it very easily.

I agree. I got this boxed set in a used book store and it was both inexpensive and east to adapt.

Try eBay.
#7

zombiegleemax

Aug 21, 2005 10:08:22
The best I have found outside of eSlave so far is "The Adventure Begins" (printed in 1998 btw). This has maps on Greyhawk and the surrounding environs, plus several adventure ideas.

It's odd that they have taken the stance on Greyhawk that they have (the "let's not print info on it when it's available elsewhere") yet many of their recent books have reprints of material from other sources (various classes and PrCs taken from Dragon, classes taken from other supplement books, and etc).

Why not do 2 things for us Greyhawk fans:
A campaign setting and a Player's Guide

the setting would have a map of a few large cities, an updated history, and some plot lines for us to follow/use/abuse

the player's guide would give us a list of the races, deities, and any other feats/magic/whatever for the setting

they did this for FR, and are pumping out books for Ebberon...it's Greyhawk's turn now... :D
#8

meorn

Aug 22, 2005 11:51:42
Adlar, I beg to differ. Most (not all) of the things you said you´d like to see in the books you mentioned are in LGG.

What I´d really like to see is like an almanac with the best GH material published by Paizo.
#9

gaaahhhh

Aug 26, 2005 12:32:11
I would also like to see a hardcover World of Greyhawk campaign book and a City of Greyhawk book. The Living Greyhawk Gazeteer was all right, but it didn't have good artwork. Just look at the Eberron campaign book and Sharn: City of Towers and compare them to the LGG. Plus, don't they have to have an update to make it 3.5 compatible? :P
#10

zombiegleemax

Aug 26, 2005 13:48:25
I would also like to see a hardcover World of Greyhawk campaign book and a City of Greyhawk book. The Living Greyhawk Gazeteer was all right, but it didn't have good artwork. Just look at the Eberron campaign book and Sharn: City of Towers and compare them to the LGG. Plus, don't they have to have an update to make it 3.5 compatible? :P

There was no crunch in LGG, it was entirely fluff, so there is no conversion necessary to make it 3.5 compatible.
#11

gaaahhhh

Aug 28, 2005 23:38:32
There was no crunch in LGG, it was entirely fluff, so there is no conversion necessary to make it 3.5 compatible.

I was using sarcasm. They didn't need much of a reason to update all the other books to 3.5 either.
#12

gaaahhhh

Aug 30, 2005 13:50:26
Ok. Maybe Sarcasm isn't the best method to get my point across.

I would like to see a World of Greyhawk book, and a City of Greyhawk book. I would certainly buy those if they came out.

The LGG book seemed a little dry, but I do own that book, and I might buy another one just to have a Greyhawk information resource for my gaming group.
#13

ajs

Sep 01, 2005 15:55:56
I would like to see a World of Greyhawk book, and a City of Greyhawk book. I would certainly buy those if they came out.

The LGG book seemed a little dry, but I do own that book

I would agree with most of the above, but I seriously think it's time to stop publishing City of Greyhawk material alone, and expand the focus of the campaign landscape to include the east and west more. One way to do this would be to expland Gryrax and Eastfair (or any other large cites on the ends of the Flanaess) as well as Greyhawk into the sort of super-cities of the Realms. Then, you could publish three books that cover the Flanaess in east, middle and west portions.

Further, I would publish a special book that combines the Empire of Iuz, the Pomarj, and the Scarlet Brotherhood into one "Enemies of the Flanaess" book and then Veluna (including Verbobonc), Furyondy, and Nyrond into a "Defenders of the Flanaess". Later books could cover "The Demihuman Lands of the Flanaess" of Highfolk, the Llortmil mountains.

But that's all moot. They're not going to do it, it seems, so here's my simple plea to WotC: Publish a detailed timeline for the Flanaess and keep it up-to-date. I have a really hard time pulling the rumors, myopic histories and other materials published on the LG site together into any kind of timeline, and I'm not ALLOWED to get most of the published adventures, so I can't gain access to the raw source materials for my campaign world. It's the worst of all possible worlds right now. I understand that saying "a demon flew over Verbobonc and set fire to the Gnarly Forest" would be a major spoiler for the adventure that it happened in (made up example), but some kind of balance has to be struck so that those of us trying to use Greyhawk as a setting can know what's going on.
#14

max_writer

Sep 02, 2005 14:38:35
I have one of those timelines. Been keeping it up for about a decade and actually sold it to Dragon years ago but it never saw publication.

I tried to sell it to them again in 2002 but they were not interested.

And I still keep adding to it.
#15

zombiegleemax

Sep 05, 2005 6:35:23
While I agree that The Adventure Begins is very useful when added to the City of Greyhawk Boxed Set I would like to see something new. The LGG is (i agree) fluff, and not overly useful to someone who seeks detail and/or ideas like myself.
I would LOVE to see a great big hardcover or boxed set updating the WoG setting, a Players Guide to the WoG, and an expansion of the Western Baklunish lands. But as it is, the neglect of the setting by the current owners makes it look like we will have to depend on Paizo and Dungeon magazine for anything new. For this at least, I am grateful. For guys like Monte Cook , et al. who keep plugging along doing what they can to keep our favorite wurld spinning: Thank You!