Joshuan vs. Aleena [Archive] - Wizards Community

Joshuan vs. Aleena [Archive] - Wizards Community

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havard
04-03-08, 09:51 AM I've mentioned this before, but...
Why was the female from the cover of Gaz1 (which I believe is Aleena) replaced by Joshuan as our icon on the Other Roleplaying Worlds icon? Who would our comminty prefer to have as our icon? Is there any way we can get it changed back should we want to?

Havard
Hugin
04-03-08, 12:22 PM Aleena!!! :pint: :ayyyy!: :drool:
kengar
04-03-08, 03:30 PM Is this a trick question?!

Aleena, of course!
Wilhelm_
04-03-08, 04:13 PM I'm sorry Joshuan, you're very nice, but of course Aleena from the cover of GAZ 1 :D
Cthulhudrew
04-03-08, 05:11 PM I think it should be Bargle. :)
sbwilson
04-03-08, 05:58 PM Aleena without a doubt. :love: However, while it is a good picture, I've never equated the picture on Gaz1 with Aleena.
havard
04-03-08, 06:10 PM I think it should be Bargle. :)

Well, not a bad suggestion. I guess the color images of him in last year's (Paizo) Dungeon could work :)

Havard
havard
04-03-08, 06:11 PM Aleena without a doubt. :love: However, while it is a good picture, I've never equated the picture on Gaz1 with Aleena.

Yeah, that is my interpretation I guess. But hopefully everyone knows which image I am referring to. In any case I think we'd benefit more from any gazeteer image over any of the AD&D Mystara image (though the Gaz1 cover was reused in the K:KoA box adventure booklet.

Havard
gawain_viii
04-03-08, 07:07 PM Between the two options, I would choose Aleena. If it were an open contest, I would nominate the Shadow Lord (from Saga of the Shadow Lord), Stefan Karameikos (from iside the K:KoA booklet, with Stefan sitting on his horse), or one of the Elmore Dragons--although the small size of the thumbnail might prohibit any of those.

I never did get the final issue of Dungeon, so I don't know what Bargle looked like. I wasn't impressed with the K:KoA "portrait". However, if the picture from Dungeon was suitable, Bargle would be a viable vote for me.

Roger

As an afterthought, one of the Immortals would be great too. Ka, Rad, or Ixion would probably be the best.
RobJN
04-03-08, 09:00 PM The black-and-white of Aleena sitting cross-legged from the '83 Basic set. Definitely.:ayyyy!:
Patrick_Sullivan
04-04-08, 01:59 PM I hate to say it, but I love having Joshuan as our spokesmodel! I'm much less fond, however, of Brannart and the vampire up in the banner once we're on the site. Those images seem too wannabe-Ravenloft for my tastes... a nice Gazetteer collage or the lineup from the Monstrous Compendium seems more appropriate.
eldersphinx
04-05-08, 10:52 PM Y'know, I think I've also mentioned this before, but there ain't no chance of replacing Joshuan as the forum mascot while his portrait remains the only 24x24 pixel GIF sitting in WotC's image archives. Step One of absolutely any "we should change our mascot" thread should be Photoshopping a replacement. Sticking the product up on image hosting and posting the result in-thread wouldn't be a bad second step, at that. :P

Once there's a credible replacement, it's worth actually asking whether a change should be made. Asking WotC forum managers to swap image files is one thing; asking them to go out and create a new image file from an unspecified source is something else.
TraverseTravis
04-07-08, 07:03 PM So is anyone willing to post right-sized Aleena (and Bargle!) pics for us to choose from? :)
TraverseTravis
04-07-08, 07:20 PM I decided to look through WotC's avatars to see which ones are from OD&D/Mystara:

http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Chlormordia.jpg
Chlormordia
http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Curcio.jpg
Curcio
http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Dagaronzie.jpg
Dagaronzie
http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-BaronRykoffe.jpg
BaronRykoffe
http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Talamar.jpg
Talamar
http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Pyrosernia.jpg
Pyrosernia
http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Varalla.jpg
Varalla
http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Lakkonon.jpg
Lakkonon
http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Orsos.jpg
Orsos
http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Panndallor.jpg
Panndallor
http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Norsinnow.jpg
Norsinnow

Travis

P.S. The file names for these images are interesting. I wonder how WotC came up with them? Perhaps these names could be used as the official Mystaran names for any previously-unnamed characters depicted in those scenes. (Though some may've also been given names in the 2e trading card sets.) Finally I'd have a name for that Red Dragon that invited me into Mystara...Pyrosernia.
Cthulhudrew
04-07-08, 09:08 PM Here's a quick colorized Aleena I did last night:

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7248/aleenaqq6vr1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Culture20
04-07-08, 11:02 PM Here's a quick colorized Aleena I did last night
I was about to say that a black & white Aleena would be perfect until I saw your colorization. Spot On! Aleena makes more sense than any other Mystara character; most recognizable face, and most emotionally charged history, all in one package!:D

Edit: Although, the "other worlds" image is 40x40, so maybe crop the image to 65x65 (just below her chin and above her helm), then scale to 40x40? If I scale the 80x80 image down, it's not obvious who she is.
havard
04-08-08, 04:48 PM Here's a quick colorized Aleena I did last night:

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7248/aleenaqq6vr1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

That one looks sweet Drew! You realize you now have to do colored full size versions of all the Aleena/Bargle images from the Basic set? :D

Havard
RobJN
04-08-08, 08:25 PM Wow! Nicely done. I'd thought after I posted "I wonder if anybody's ever colored those... Sure would be nice if somebody did."

Bravo.
maddog
04-09-08, 08:53 AM Looks great! May we see the full-sized image? It appears that the thumbnail links to an "imageshack" upload page of some sort.

--Ray.
Wilhelm_
04-09-08, 09:23 PM I decided to look through WotC's avatars to see which ones are from OD&D/Mystara

I'm curious, this one I'm using isnt from Mystara? It's X9 cover, isn't it? Was this picture used at other produtcs unrelated to Mystara?

Here's a quick colorized Aleena I did last night

Nice pic, Drew! :D
TraverseTravis
04-09-08, 11:02 PM I'm curious, this one I'm using isnt from Mystara? It's X9 cover, isn't it? Was this picture used at other produtcs unrelated to Mystara?

Right you are!
http://paizo.com/image/product/catalog/TSR/TSR9129_500.jpeg
Any others I missed?

Travis
Wilhelm_
04-10-08, 01:30 AM Any others I missed?

From that cover, these guys here:
http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Gabriel.jpg

http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Ambrose.jpg

http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Barent.jpg

http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Duncan.jpg

And I also found these:

http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Krazzora.jpg
IM1 The Immortal Storm (same of "Lakkonon" you posted)
http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Marquis.jpg
GAZ1 The Grand Duchy of Karameikos
http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Xanthom.jpg
HWA3 Nightstorm
http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Thorvid.jpg
B11 King's Festival
http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Finian.jpg
CM5 Mystery of the Snow Pearls
http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Gloriana.jpg
CM9 Legacy of Blood

http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Eriadne.jpg
And this last one, that's not cover of any mystaran book I know, but is identical to the rogue character of Shadows over Mystara.
http://www.clydecaldwell.com/jpgs/large_images/red_sands.jpg
TraverseTravis
04-10-08, 11:40 AM Sheesh...I missed a lot! Good eye!
Cthulhudrew
04-11-08, 06:43 AM http://www.clydecaldwell.com/jpgs/large_images/red_sands.jpg

Wow. Never seen this one before, but it's just begging to be the cover to a Mystara Gazetteer. Which nation, or group of nations, though? It seems vaguely desert/arabian/african/indian themed, possibly Sind? Or something else? Maybe a combo Pearl Islands/Ochalea gaz?

In any event, sorry I haven't responded to questions about Aleena yet. Injured my shoulder on Monday night, and am only just now getting enough utility in my right arm that I can type again, albeit with much discomfort. I'll hopefully be able to post more in the next couple of days.
gawain_viii
04-11-08, 12:34 PM it's just begging to be the cover to a Mystara Gazetteer. Which nation, or group of nations, though? It seems vaguely desert/arabian/african/indian themed, possibly Sind? Or something else? Maybe a combo Pearl Islands/Ochalea gaz?

Considering the wide variety of (apparent) cultures depicted, I might suggest the cover for an Isle of Dawn (and neighboring islands) Gazetteer.

Roger
Cthulhudrew
04-12-08, 12:16 AM Considering the wide variety of (apparent) cultures depicted, I might suggest the cover for an Isle of Dawn (and neighboring islands) Gazetteer.

Oh, good one!
Wilhelm_
04-12-08, 02:05 AM Wow. Never seen this one before, but it's just begging to be the cover to a Mystara Gazetteer.

Lol! Indeed it is!
BTW, I can't find anything about the book that received this cover (Red Sands (http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/t/paul-b-thompson/red-sands.htm)), like if the main character is indeed Moriah (http://jonc101.tripod.com/SOM/chars/thief.htm) or just a clone ;)

Which nation, or group of nations, though? It seems vaguely desert/arabian/african/indian themed, possibly Sind? Or something else? Maybe a combo Pearl Islands/Ochalea gaz?

Red Sands: An Arabian Adventure... yes, Sind, or pehaps Ylaruam.
Or Hule too.

Injured my shoulder on Monday night, and am only just now getting enough utility in my right arm that I can type again, albeit with much discomfort. I'll hopefully be able to post more in the next couple of days.

Hope you get better soon ;)

Considering the wide variety of (apparent) cultures depicted, I might suggest the cover for an Isle of Dawn (and neighboring islands) Gazetteer.

Another good possibility ;)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
havard 04-03-08, 09:51 AM	I've mentioned this before, but... Why was the female from the cover of Gaz1 (which I believe is Aleena) replaced by Joshuan as our icon on the Other Roleplaying Worlds icon? Who would our comminty prefer to have as our icon? Is there any way we can get it changed back should we want to? Havard
Hugin 04-03-08, 12:22 PM	Aleena!!! :pint: :ayyyy!: :drool:
kengar 04-03-08, 03:30 PM	Is this a trick question?! Aleena, of course!
Wilhelm_ 04-03-08, 04:13 PM	I'm sorry Joshuan, you're very nice, but of course Aleena from the cover of GAZ 1 :D
Cthulhudrew 04-03-08, 05:11 PM	I think it should be Bargle. :)
sbwilson 04-03-08, 05:58 PM	Aleena without a doubt. :love: However, while it is a good picture, I've never equated the picture on Gaz1 with Aleena.
havard 04-03-08, 06:10 PM	I think it should be Bargle. :) Well, not a bad suggestion. I guess the color images of him in last year's (Paizo) Dungeon could work :) Havard
havard 04-03-08, 06:11 PM	Aleena without a doubt. :love: However, while it is a good picture, I've never equated the picture on Gaz1 with Aleena. Yeah, that is my interpretation I guess. But hopefully everyone knows which image I am referring to. In any case I think we'd benefit more from any gazeteer image over any of the AD&D Mystara image (though the Gaz1 cover was reused in the K:KoA box adventure booklet. Havard
gawain_viii 04-03-08, 07:07 PM	Between the two options, I would choose Aleena. If it were an open contest, I would nominate the Shadow Lord (from Saga of the Shadow Lord), Stefan Karameikos (from iside the K:KoA booklet, with Stefan sitting on his horse), or one of the Elmore Dragons--although the small size of the thumbnail might prohibit any of those. I never did get the final issue of Dungeon, so I don't know what Bargle looked like. I wasn't impressed with the K:KoA "portrait". However, if the picture from Dungeon was suitable, Bargle would be a viable vote for me. Roger As an afterthought, one of the Immortals would be great too. Ka, Rad, or Ixion would probably be the best.
RobJN 04-03-08, 09:00 PM	The black-and-white of Aleena sitting cross-legged from the '83 Basic set. Definitely.:ayyyy!:
Patrick_Sullivan 04-04-08, 01:59 PM	I hate to say it, but I love having Joshuan as our spokesmodel! I'm much less fond, however, of Brannart and the vampire up in the banner once we're on the site. Those images seem too wannabe-Ravenloft for my tastes... a nice Gazetteer collage or the lineup from the Monstrous Compendium seems more appropriate.
eldersphinx 04-05-08, 10:52 PM	Y'know, I think I've also mentioned this before, but there ain't no chance of replacing Joshuan as the forum mascot while his portrait remains the only 24x24 pixel GIF sitting in WotC's image archives. Step One of absolutely any "we should change our mascot" thread should be Photoshopping a replacement. Sticking the product up on image hosting and posting the result in-thread wouldn't be a bad second step, at that. :P Once there's a credible replacement, it's worth actually asking whether a change should be made. Asking WotC forum managers to swap image files is one thing; asking them to go out and create a new image file from an unspecified source is something else.
TraverseTravis 04-07-08, 07:03 PM	So is anyone willing to post right-sized Aleena (and Bargle!) pics for us to choose from? :)
TraverseTravis 04-07-08, 07:20 PM	I decided to look through WotC's avatars to see which ones are from OD&D/Mystara: http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Chlormordia.jpg Chlormordia http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Curcio.jpg Curcio http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Dagaronzie.jpg Dagaronzie http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-BaronRykoffe.jpg BaronRykoffe http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Talamar.jpg Talamar http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Pyrosernia.jpg Pyrosernia http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Varalla.jpg Varalla http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Lakkonon.jpg Lakkonon http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Orsos.jpg Orsos http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Panndallor.jpg Panndallor http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Norsinnow.jpg Norsinnow Travis P.S. The file names for these images are interesting. I wonder how WotC came up with them? Perhaps these names could be used as the official Mystaran names for any previously-unnamed characters depicted in those scenes. (Though some may've also been given names in the 2e trading card sets.) Finally I'd have a name for that Red Dragon that invited me into Mystara...Pyrosernia.
Cthulhudrew 04-07-08, 09:08 PM	Here's a quick colorized Aleena I did last night: http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7248/aleenaqq6vr1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Culture20 04-07-08, 11:02 PM	Here's a quick colorized Aleena I did last night I was about to say that a black & white Aleena would be perfect until I saw your colorization. Spot On! Aleena makes more sense than any other Mystara character; most recognizable face, and most emotionally charged history, all in one package!:D Edit: Although, the "other worlds" image is 40x40, so maybe crop the image to 65x65 (just below her chin and above her helm), then scale to 40x40? If I scale the 80x80 image down, it's not obvious who she is.
havard 04-08-08, 04:48 PM	Here's a quick colorized Aleena I did last night: http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7248/aleenaqq6vr1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) That one looks sweet Drew! You realize you now have to do colored full size versions of all the Aleena/Bargle images from the Basic set? :D Havard
RobJN 04-08-08, 08:25 PM	Wow! Nicely done. I'd thought after I posted "I wonder if anybody's ever colored those... Sure would be nice if somebody did." Bravo.
maddog 04-09-08, 08:53 AM	Looks great! May we see the full-sized image? It appears that the thumbnail links to an "imageshack" upload page of some sort. --Ray.
Wilhelm_ 04-09-08, 09:23 PM	I decided to look through WotC's avatars to see which ones are from OD&D/Mystara I'm curious, this one I'm using isnt from Mystara? It's X9 cover, isn't it? Was this picture used at other produtcs unrelated to Mystara? Here's a quick colorized Aleena I did last night Nice pic, Drew! :D
TraverseTravis 04-09-08, 11:02 PM	I'm curious, this one I'm using isnt from Mystara? It's X9 cover, isn't it? Was this picture used at other produtcs unrelated to Mystara? Right you are! http://paizo.com/image/product/catalog/TSR/TSR9129_500.jpeg Any others I missed? Travis
Wilhelm_ 04-10-08, 01:30 AM	Any others I missed? From that cover, these guys here: http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Gabriel.jpg http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Ambrose.jpg http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Barent.jpg http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Duncan.jpg And I also found these: http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Krazzora.jpg IM1 The Immortal Storm (same of "Lakkonon" you posted) http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Marquis.jpg GAZ1 The Grand Duchy of Karameikos http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Xanthom.jpg HWA3 Nightstorm http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Thorvid.jpg B11 King's Festival http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Finian.jpg CM5 Mystery of the Snow Pearls http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Gloriana.jpg CM9 Legacy of Blood http://forums.gleemax.com/images/avatars/TSR-Eriadne.jpg And this last one, that's not cover of any mystaran book I know, but is identical to the rogue character of Shadows over Mystara. http://www.clydecaldwell.com/jpgs/large_images/red_sands.jpg
TraverseTravis 04-10-08, 11:40 AM	Sheesh...I missed a lot! Good eye!
Cthulhudrew 04-11-08, 06:43 AM	http://www.clydecaldwell.com/jpgs/large_images/red_sands.jpg Wow. Never seen this one before, but it's just begging to be the cover to a Mystara Gazetteer. Which nation, or group of nations, though? It seems vaguely desert/arabian/african/indian themed, possibly Sind? Or something else? Maybe a combo Pearl Islands/Ochalea gaz? In any event, sorry I haven't responded to questions about Aleena yet. Injured my shoulder on Monday night, and am only just now getting enough utility in my right arm that I can type again, albeit with much discomfort. I'll hopefully be able to post more in the next couple of days.
gawain_viii 04-11-08, 12:34 PM	it's just begging to be the cover to a Mystara Gazetteer. Which nation, or group of nations, though? It seems vaguely desert/arabian/african/indian themed, possibly Sind? Or something else? Maybe a combo Pearl Islands/Ochalea gaz? Considering the wide variety of (apparent) cultures depicted, I might suggest the cover for an Isle of Dawn (and neighboring islands) Gazetteer. Roger
Cthulhudrew 04-12-08, 12:16 AM	Considering the wide variety of (apparent) cultures depicted, I might suggest the cover for an Isle of Dawn (and neighboring islands) Gazetteer. Oh, good one!
Wilhelm_ 04-12-08, 02:05 AM	Wow. Never seen this one before, but it's just begging to be the cover to a Mystara Gazetteer. Lol! Indeed it is! BTW, I can't find anything about the book that received this cover (Red Sands (http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/t/paul-b-thompson/red-sands.htm)), like if the main character is indeed Moriah (http://jonc101.tripod.com/SOM/chars/thief.htm) or just a clone ;) Which nation, or group of nations, though? It seems vaguely desert/arabian/african/indian themed, possibly Sind? Or something else? Maybe a combo Pearl Islands/Ochalea gaz? Red Sands: An Arabian Adventure... yes, Sind, or pehaps Ylaruam. Or Hule too. Injured my shoulder on Monday night, and am only just now getting enough utility in my right arm that I can type again, albeit with much discomfort. I'll hopefully be able to post more in the next couple of days. Hope you get better soon ;) Considering the wide variety of (apparent) cultures depicted, I might suggest the cover for an Isle of Dawn (and neighboring islands) Gazetteer. Another good possibility ;)