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#1 zombiegleemax Aug 28, 2005 19:56:30	hello, Are there any big advances in the metaplot/history of Dark Sun before the Revised Edition of Dark Sun? It's a bit confusing for me about what events took place in which book. Basically, I would like to know which books I can use if I preferred staying as close to the history of the original boxed edition. Dark Sun Monstrous Compendium Appendix II: Terrors Beyond Tyr (1995) Thri-Kreen of Athas (1995) Windriders of the Jagged Cliffs (1995) Black Spine (1994) City by the Silt Sea (1994) Forest Maker (1994) Will and the Way, The (1994) Black Flames (1993) City-State of Tyr (1993) Complete Gladiator's Handbook, The (1993) Dragon's Crown (1993) Earth, Air, Fire, and Water (1993) Elves of Athas (1993) Ivory Triangle, The (1993) Marauders of Nibenay (1993) Merchant House of Amketch (1993) Arcane Shadows (1992) Asticlian Gambit (1992) Dark Sun Monstrous Compendium Appendix: Terrors of the Desert (1992) Dragon Kings (1992) Dune Trader (1992) Road to Urik (1992) Slave Tribes (1992) Valley of Dust and Fire (1992) Veiled Alliance (1992) Freedom (1991)
#2 pringles Aug 29, 2005 17:44:22	Forest Maker (1994) Black Flames (1993) Complete Gladiator's Handbook, The (1993) Dragon's Crown (1993) Earth, Air, Fire, and Water (1993) Elves of Athas (1993) Ivory Triangle, The (1993) Merchant House of Amketch (1993) Arcane Shadows (1992) Asticlian Gambit (1992) Dark Sun Monstrous Compendium Appendix: Terrors of the Desert (1992) Dragon Kings (1992) Dune Trader (1992) Road to Urik (1992) Slave Tribes (1992) Veiled Alliance (1992) Freedom (1991) City-State of Tyr (1993)
#3 kalthandrix Aug 29, 2005 17:48:40	Pringles? Is that you? I thought I would never see my favorite snack chip again All we need now is for TerminusVortexa -the Defiler/Psion/Dragon Thri-kreen to grace us with his glory again
#4 zombiegleemax Aug 29, 2005 17:56:40	thanks very much. A follow up question, why aren't some of those earlier books like City State of Tyr in the list? Is it because they advance a plot that changes the history of Athas (king gets killed or overthrown)? Specifically: City State of Tyr Valley of Dust and Fire Marauders of Nibeny
#5 squidfur- Aug 29, 2005 18:55:46	thanks very much. A follow up question, why aren't some of those earlier books like City State of Tyr in the list? Is it because they advance a plot that changes the history of Athas (king gets killed or overthrown)? Specifically: City State of Tyr Valley of Dust and Fire Marauders of Nibeny Personally I'd say that every DS product is worth using. Sure there are inconsistencies in near every one of 'em, but most of these are easily solved. The information that each product adds to the setting is just awesome in most cases. As for pringles exclusion of certain books, I'm sure that's more just his preferences. Marauders of Nibenay, however, I'd surmise didn't make the list because of it's cataclysmic-like effect on the city-state of Nibenay (and the problems this might bring to individual campaigns). I for one still like most of the adventure, though.
#6 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Aug 29, 2005 21:49:03	FYI -- the entire list of books and Dragon/Dungeon magazines that had Dark Sun materials, is up on Athas.org.
#7 ruhl-than_sage Aug 29, 2005 22:54:14	Pringles? Is that you? I thought I would never see my favorite snack chip again All we need now is for TerminusVortexa -the Defiler/Psion/Dragon Thri-kreen to grace us with his glory again :bounce: It's kind strange when people disappear and you don't know where they've gone. I thought you'd been eaten!
#8 flip Aug 30, 2005 10:23:09	:bounce: It's kind strange when people disappear and you don't know where they've gone. I thought you'd been eaten! ... well, I don't know if you've heard, but there is a war on. And belive it or not, I know of a few DS fans in the military ....
#9 elonarc Aug 30, 2005 13:36:13	Terminus is just moving though, and doesn't have an internet connection yet.
#10 pringles Aug 30, 2005 15:35:33	I was still there, just lurking and not posting. It just that since June, the only thing you guys talk about are PRC and thing like that. Since I still play 2e edition, I have nothing to say on 3 edition rule and such. I only post on strictly Athasian subject.
#11 elonarc Aug 30, 2005 16:26:15	I was still there, just lurking and not posting. It just that since June, the only thing you guys talk about are PRC and thing like that. Since I still play 2e edition, I have nothing to say on 3 edition rule and such. I only post on strictly Athasian subject. Same with me (though I am oviously not being missed). It seems one doesn't have to play 2nd Edition to find the whole PrC issues relatively boring.
#12 Pennarin Aug 30, 2005 23:58:00	Same with me (though I am oviously not being missed). Of course we love you, you small electrical teddybear! :P We just didn't know why you weren't boarding anymore, and didn't wanted to pry.
#13 jon_oracle_of_athas Aug 31, 2005 10:02:13	I'm online at home now, so expect me to be throwing lightning bolts left and right again in the near future.
#14 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Aug 31, 2005 21:29:55	Same with me (though I am oviously not being missed). Who are you again?
#15 elonarc Sep 01, 2005 6:51:18	Who are you again?
#16 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Sep 01, 2005 8:26:26	Oh.... your a smurf. That's right.
#17 ruhl-than_sage Sep 01, 2005 9:29:59	Thats so cute! He's pouty. :D I always did like pokemon, actually I played the pokemon card game all summer the year I graduated from highschool.
#18 vinylvillichi_dup Sep 03, 2005 11:31:46	I find it hard to believe that any of you really know what a smurf is. You cannot possibly be old enough. As for Pokemon, well, I am too old for that. The yellow fuzzy is cute, though.
#19 Kamelion Sep 03, 2005 12:11:48	I find it hard to believe that any of you really know what a smurf is. You cannot possibly be old enough. Eh? What's that? Speak up, yeh young whippersnapper!!
#20 nytcrawlr Sep 03, 2005 12:14:14	I find it hard to believe that any of you really know what a smurf is. You cannot possibly be old enough. I bet 3/4 of us are old enough to know. ;) It being one of my most favorite cartoons during that part of my life, I hope I know what a smurf is, heh.
#21 jon_oracle_of_athas Sep 03, 2005 13:07:18	I saw smurf cartoons and read smurf comic books, even ate smurf candy. The coolest smurfs were the black ones that bit the other smurfs. :P
#22 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Sep 03, 2005 13:54:54	I find it hard to believe that any of you really know what a smurf is. You cannot possibly be old enough. Umm..... exactly how young do you think we are here? there's a number of us at or around 30 years or older. As for Pokemon, well, I am too old for that. The yellow fuzzy is cute, though. I only found Pokemon to be an interesting distraction during guard duty. It was behind my time, much like Dragonball Z, and that "Power Rangers" thing.
#23 nytcrawlr Sep 03, 2005 14:04:13	"Power Rangers" thing. You mean that "thing" THAT WON'T FREAKING DIE!!!!!! Ahem, I feel better now.... :bounce:
#24 ruhl-than_sage Sep 03, 2005 14:42:33	I remember watching smurfs when I was little. Pokemon, is far superior. I still like the pokemon cartoon, and I didn't even see it until my junior year in highschool. Smurfs however do not continue to hold their charm Your never too old for Pokemon! :D :P
#25 zombiegleemax Sep 03, 2005 15:35:53	Your never too old for Pokemon! :D :P I suppose, if you're using them for target practice... /Khaine ducks for cover :D
#26 nytcrawlr Sep 03, 2005 17:08:43	Your never too old for Pokemon! :D :P Eh, I started watching it a few years back just to see what the hubbub was about and got into it some. Then after a few months I re-evaulated why the hell I was wasting my time watching such silly things, hehe. Smurfs is far superior! With a much deeper, darker, ideal behind it all.
#27 elonarc Sep 03, 2005 18:29:29	After all these years, after all my tireless efforts...I finally manage to get people to talk about Pokémon on the Dark Sun boards... Yay!!! I watched the first three Pokémon movies with my younger siblings and we just got silly giving each other Poké-names and till today occasionally yelling "Pikachu! Thundershock attack!!!" at each other. I never played the game and watch almost no TV.
#28 Kamelion Sep 03, 2005 19:08:19	You mean that "thing" THAT WON'T FREAKING DIE!!!!!! Absolutely. My two kids (7 and almost 4) are mad about the Power Rangers - particularly Dino Thunder, Wild Force and Idja Storm (as my youngest calls Ninja Storm, lol...)
#29 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Sep 03, 2005 21:21:57	You mean that "thing" THAT WON'T FREAKING DIE!!!!!! Hey, you know.... if I had Mighty Morphine, I'd be a Power Ranger too... (joke doesn't work any more, as kids these days don't even KNOW about the "Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers".
#30 nytcrawlr Sep 03, 2005 21:49:09	Hey, you know.... if I had Mighty Morphine, I'd be a Power Ranger too... LOL! (joke doesn't work any more, as kids these days don't even KNOW about the "Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers". You sure? They're only put out 200 different versions of the cartoon, I think the latest is their 201st.
#31 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Sep 03, 2005 23:56:11	You sure? They're only put out 200 different versions of the cartoon, I think the latest is their 201st. Yea, but from what I've heard, only the first group was called "Mighty Morphin'" There was some moral and ethical issues to contend with about calling these power rangers something akin to "morphine" -- and it was literally attacked by the Christian Coalition, who forced them to need to change the name. I think the latest rendition I've heard of is like Power Rangers SPD or something (commercials air when I watch The Tick).
#32 Pennarin Sep 04, 2005 0:56:33	I think the latest rendition I've heard of is like Power Rangers SPD or something (commercials air when I watch The Tick). You mean Power Rangers LSD, right?
#33 nytcrawlr Sep 04, 2005 1:25:02	You mean Power Rangers LSD, right? That sounds more appropriate since you have to be on massive amounts of LSD to find that stuff entertaining in the least, unless of course you're 12, heh.
#34 nytcrawlr Sep 04, 2005 1:26:40	Yea, but from what I've heard, only the first group was called "Mighty Morphin'" There was some moral and ethical issues to contend with about calling these power rangers something akin to "morphine" -- and it was literally attacked by the Christian Coalition, who forced them to need to change the name. Interesting, wondered why they changed their damn names so many times, heh. I think the latest rendition I've heard of is like Power Rangers SPD or something (commercials air when I watch The Tick). Now see, The Tick is some quality programming. I need to start recording that, I totally forgot it was still on.
#35 zombiegleemax Sep 04, 2005 4:46:04	Lame old Power Rangers, yucky! As for Smurfs I'll quote my Mother as we would wake up on Saturdays to see my (when they where new) 28 yo. uncle watching them on TV, "Little Blue Bass-turds".
#36 zombiegleemax Sep 04, 2005 9:05:47	Power Rangers are cool in there own way. Like watching the really old Kung Fu movies with the voice overs!
#37 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Sep 04, 2005 9:08:18	Now see, The Tick is some quality programming. I need to start recording that, I totally forgot it was still on. I believe the whole point of The Tick coming back out on TV was to "test the waters" -- if it gets high enough ratings, then the animated series will go to DVD, and a new animated series will be done (with the guy who played Tick in the live-action show takingup the voice for the new animated series)
#38 huntercc Sep 04, 2005 9:30:48	The Power Rangers wish they were as cool as the Smurfs. The Tick is definitely quality too. The live action show was funny, but there just wasn't enough to it... each episode left me thinking "That's it?!? That was lame"
#39 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Sep 04, 2005 9:33:58	The Tick is definitely quality too. The live action show was funny, but there just wasn't enough to it... each episode left me thinking "That's it?!? That was lame" yea... but a lot of that was due to budget restrictions, and there is some significanty limitations for what you can do live-action compared to in a cartoon.
#40 nytcrawlr Sep 04, 2005 10:23:35	Power Rangers are cool in there own way. Like watching the really old Kung Fu movies with the voice overs! Uh no, they are just lame except it. :P And stop dissing old Kung Fu movies like that!
#41 nytcrawlr Sep 04, 2005 10:24:45	I believe the whole point of The Tick coming back out on TV was to "test the waters" -- if it gets high enough ratings, then the animated series will go to DVD, and a new animated series will be done (with the guy who played Tick in the live-action show takingup the voice for the new animated series) Cool. And I liked the guy in the live-action bit, it just seemed limiting too, keep it to cartoons I say.