Kamelion wrote:
Did not know which area votes were being collected but I will have to cast mine roe the Mir'iseth- too cool for school- I would really like to see more development on the leaders of this race Klathandrix!!
Jeipug Mite Swarm for the silly frog!
Same here. You gotta love a unique critter like that.
my vote would be for the mir'iseth. IMO they are the best developed and most interesting creatures to be selected from
Vote cast by DarkMul here.
Vote = Mir'iseth
Mine too- most of the creatures look good, except for the waterseeker (honestly what were you thinking?) but I will have to cast my vote for the Mir'iseth. I am surprised that the Jeipug Mite Swarm is getting so many votes!
Is there anyway that more then one entry could 'win' and be included in the ToA?
Is there anyway that more then one entry could 'win' and be included in the ToA?
No, we set the competition up on the understanding that only one entry would make into ToA, so I don't want to change the parameters now that we're into the voting phase. That said, the runner-up entries will have had plenty of exposure here on the boards and there's nothing preventing them from being adopted into anyone's games. In that respect, everyone's a winner ;)
Current Tally
Quarex 1
Jeipug Mite Swarm 4
Mir'iseth 4
No, we set the competition up on the understanding that only one entry would make into ToA, so I don't want to change the parameters now that we're into the voting phase. That said, the runner-up entries will have had plenty of exposure here on the boards and there's nothing preventing them from being adopted into anyone's games. In that respect, everyone's a winner ;)
Current Tally
Quarex 1
Jeipug Mite Swarm 4
Mir'iseth 4
Well- then I eally hope that more people will decide to come in and vote (for the Mir'iseth :D ).
Currently the mir'iseth are sneaking into the camps and houses of the other creatures and, well, lets just say that the clans of mir'iseth will eat well tonight. :D
Funny thing is when you check their profiles they've all become members within the last two days.
Who are half these people voting?
Funny thing is when you check their profiles they've all become members within the last two days.
So what are you saying- only people you know can vote!
I have been around the boards for a long time and usually do not get involved in them, and did not become a 'card carrying member' until recently. We can view the boards and not join you know.
The reason I have never really posted anything is due to the fact that there are so many rude people running around in here and I did not want to get involved.
Man I do not need this aggrivation.
So what are you saying- only people you know can vote!
I have been around the boards for a long time and usually do not get involved in them, and did not become a 'card carrying member' until recently. We can view the boards and not join you know.
The reason I have never really posted anything is due to the fact that there are so many rude people running around in here and I did not want to get involved.
Man I do not need this aggrivation.
No, I didn't say that all. I was just making an observation. No need to be needlessly defensive.
I just find it odd that out of all threads on these boards this one urged several lurkers to create accounts and vote as their very first posts ever.
To be honest I don't really care which creature wins. I voiced my vote, and thats enough for me.
Quarex 1
Jeipug Mite Swarm 5
Mir'iseth 8
Vlerryl 1
Now I do know Shatter Star and DarkMul- both of them are in my gaming group and I asked them to check out the board and vote for their favorite DM to win.
I really do not feel comfortable with how this whole thing is progressing- I would just suggest that we turn this whole thing over to the Monster people at Athas.org, mainly due to the fact that I do not want anyone to think that anyone is acting improperly.
I really do not feel comfortable with how this whole thing is progressing- I would just suggest that we turn this whole thing over to the Monster people at Athas.org, mainly due to the fact that I do not want anyone to think that anyone is acting improperly.
That might be a good idea at this point.
My intent was not to be rude, it just struck me funny that new posters came out of no where to vote.
I just think I will withdraw completely- I have this creature in my campaign already and do not care if anyone uses it or not- I only did this competition for fun anyway.
A little drastic, but if thats the way you feel do what you have to do. I think you should keep it in. You did a great job.
Thanks for those of you who voted for my creature. If you want it for your campaing PM me to drop me an e-mail.
Kalthandrix, please don't withdraw! If you do, the far-better Jeipug Mite Swarm will win!
/me runs after some, hopefuly, successful goading :P
A little drastic, but if thats you way you feel do what you have to do. I think you should keep it in. You did a great job with it.
Thanks Sysane- I just do not like having my honesty and integrity questioned. I was a Marine Corp Infantry Sergeant and I am an auditor in public practice and all I have is my word and honor.
If Kalthandrix is taking his creature out of the competition can we recast our votes?
Let's give him time to think before we go pulling votes.
And to reiterate what Kam said, please keep this thread to votes only. All other comments need to have another thread open or sent via PM.
Thanks.
Let's give him time to think before we go pulling votes.
Agreed. A bit of clear air time would be a good idea. There's no rush at present - we're still only on the first day of voting, after all
There's no rush at present - we're still only on the first day of voting, after all
Indeed, I think the agreement was 10 days?
Ok, since Kamelion asked so nicely, I've edited my comment. :P
I won't. I didn't say anything that inflammatory. I just pointed something odd thats all. I didn't mean for it to turn out like this by any means.
Thanks Sysane- I just do not like having my honesty and integrity questioned. I was a Marine Corp Infantry Sergeant and I am an auditor in public practice and all I have is my word and honor.
Geesh, ya go out one night ;) But that's not the point of this post.
Kal, please, I'm begging ya, don't withdraw your critter.
I started this contest for fun and to (hopefully) encourage the DS community here to create even more cool stuff. The Mir'iseth is a cool critter (I wouldn't have agreed to host it otherwise), and if the community wills it I would like to see it win.
Folks, can I ask all concerned to keep the casting of aspersions and personal comments out of this, please? This is supposed to be an exercise in fun and nothing more. There's no need for inflammatory remarks of any kind. Thanks.
Sure. Sorry y'all. :raincloud
And Kal, don't take it personnal, man. I believe you should stick to the race. I didn't think our comments would make such fuss and have taken it back.
Peace guys! :D
Quarex 1
Jeipug Mite Swarm 6
Mir'iseth 8
Vlerryl 1
:D
Can I vote for myself? Well, my beastie. Well, half my beastie, as Kalthandrix did the stats... Can I give half a vote to Kalthandrix's stats?
:D
Heh heh. It depends on how much you contributed to the entry. If you came up with an idea that Kalthandrix wrote up then I would say that you could enter a vote, as Kalthandrix would be the one getting the credit at the end of the day in the eventuality of a win. If, however, you actually wrote some of the entry (such as, for example, flavour text or the like) then I would say that you cannot vote (but you would get a joint mention should the entry win).
Heh heh. It depends on how much you contributed to the entry. If you came up with an idea that Kalthandrix wrote up then I would say that you could enter a vote, as Kalthandrix would be the one getting the credit at the end of the day in the eventuality of a win. If, however, you actually wrote some of the entry (such as, for example, flavour text or the like) then I would say that you cannot vote (but you would get a joint mention should the entry win).
Option B, it seems.
Ah, well. I can campaign. Vote Jeipug! :D
If I did then I would withdraw them instead of suffering a humiliating defeat at the, uh, talons of the Mir'iseth.
I would just like to point out one thing- I had nothing to do with the stinky-bug project!!
If I did then I would withdraw them instead of suffering a humiliating defeat at the, uh, talons of the Mir'iseth.
I will just use my amazing mind powers to convince everyone that I said Methvezem right at the beginning. Yes.
Nothing to see here, move it along.
I will just use my amazing mind powers to convince everyone that I said Methvezem right at the beginning. Yes.
Nothing to see here, move it along.
[watto]Mind tricks don't work on me - only money![/watto]
[watto]Mind tricks don't work on me - only money![/watto]
(rummage rummage)
I've got 50p. Will that do?
(rummage rummage)
I've got 50p. Will that do?
Will it buy you a deep-fried Mars bar?
:P
Next time maybe we should make this thing a secret vote, so as to avoid people jumping on to vote for the early leaders.
Might be a good idea, since it could prevent contraversy as well.
Btw, thanks for rejoining us Kal!
Next time maybe we should make this thing a secret vote, so as to avoid people jumping on to vote for the early leaders.
That's probably not a bad idea. Probably PM all votes to Kam and I or something next time around.
The monster bureau isn't allowed to vote, but what about the rest of athas.org?
I'd say yes
The monster bureau isn't allowed to vote, but what about the rest of athas.org?
Yeah, I wouldn't see that as being a problem.
Yeah, I wouldn't see that as being a problem.
Cliff, Flip, Gab, Jon, Elonarc, etc. this means YOU!
!!Now I know that I PMed about 25 members that come to this board (bossloki, Argali, Bard of DorAr, Dunsel, Gilliard DeRosan, vandal47, to name a few)
and I have not see your vote.
Anyway- I have a proposal for future competitions- I would suggest that no Athas.org member be allowed to 'compete'. My reasoning is this- 1) you fellows have a greater opportunity to actuall see you material get to an official product due to your working within Athas.org, whereas the rest of us do not have the same opportunity and 2) with you guys working together much more ofter there would be a change for an unconscious bias. Just a suggestion- you guys know I got nothing by love for you all :D
Now I know that I PMed about 25 members that come to this board (bossloki, Argali, Bard of DorAr, Dunsel, Gilliard DeRosan, vandal47, to name a few) and I have not see your vote.
Pimp!!! :P
Anyway- I have a proposal for future competitions- I would suggest that no Athas.org member be allowed to 'compete'. My reasoning is this- 1) you fellows have a greater opportunity to actuall see you material get to an official product due to your working within Athas.org, whereas the rest of us do not have the same opportunity and 2) with you guys working together much more ofter there would be a change for an unconscious bias. Just a suggestion- you guys know I got nothing by love for you all :D
1) This was the reasoning behind excluding Monster Bureau members from participating or voting, but it is also a good argument from excluding all athas.org members from competitions where the prize involves publication of the winning entry in an athas.org product. Something to bear in mind for the future, perhaps...
2) What are you suggesting??? We are all paragons of impartiality and balanced judgement and are actually completely incapable of making biased decisions, so I don't see this point as even being remotely relevant. Especially seeing as you don't know the secret handshake.
Oh, OK, OK - we'll keep both points in mind, then. Sheesh. I'll just have to sneak my Cactal Drake into ToA some other way instead... ;)
Pimp!!! :p
Hey what can I say! I gotta shake my money maker to pay the rent baby
Kal, your line of thought applies itself more to monster bureau people - already excluded - and to such well-known and connected people has Flip and Jon.
If Meth, or me, or anyone else at athas.org wants to see a monster he or she created get into a monster manual, we have to pass through the same channels as everyone else does. Its as difficult for us as for board members.
Meth is the only athas.org member I can see, and that guy has, basically, very little connections in or out of the bureaus, as he's not online much. I'm pretty much the main athas.org member he knows, so the most influence Meth can have within athas.org is...my vote.
Kal, your line of thought applies itself more to monster bureau people - already excluded - and to such well-known and connected people has Flip and Jon.
If Meth, or me, or anyone else at athas.org wants to see a monster he or she created get into a monster manual, we have to pass through the same channels as everyone else does. Its as difficult for us as for board members.
Totally in agreement with you here. The swarm was the first monster I ever did, and I'm quite happy with it as I think I kept it true to the monster imagined by Korvar. I originally did the swarm because I thought Korvar had a great idea for adding to the ecology of Athas. I am really pleased that some of you also like it.
But I really never thought somebody would vote for it because of its creator and not the creature itself.
That the critter is published in the next version of ToA is less important than being used by people that have seen them here on the boards, as in the case of Fleetwood and its quarrex familiar. ;)
Anyways, keep on voting everyone!
Totally in agreement with you here. The swarm was the first monster I ever did, and I'm quite happy with it as I think I kept it true to the monster imagined by Korvar. I originally did the swarm because I thought Korvar had a great idea for adding to the ecology of Athas. I am really pleased that some of you also like it.
Same here.
But I really never thought somebody would vote for it because of its creator and not the creature itself.
Yeah. Maybe the next one should be anonymous submissions, as well as anonymous voting...
That the critter is published in the next version of ToA is less important than being used by people that have seen them here on the boards, as in the case of Fleetwood and its quarrex familiar. ;)
Yep. Published is nice, but contributing to Athas, at whatever level, is the best.
Yeah. Maybe the next one should be anonymous submissions, as well as anonymous voting...
Nice idea!
We'd all have fun trying to guess who posted what monster. :D
I suggest the next time we do this, a person be designated, like maybe a monster bureau member, who would receive emails and PMs of monsters (with the board code already integrated, of course) from people and post them himself in one big post.
Board comments would be read by the secret authors and they would send their corrections to the designated individual mentionned above, so the changes can be incorporated in the original post.
I suggest the next time we do this, a person be designated, like maybe a monster bureau member, who would receive emails and PMs of monsters (with the board code already integrated, of course) from people and post them himself in one big post.
Board comments would be read by the secret authors and they would send their corrections to the designated individual mentionned above, so the changes can be incorporated in the original post.
I don't mind volunteering for this when the time comes again.
Don't you think, that's going to far?
I think, you should trust in people's ability to decide what they like and what they don't. If some are conducted in their decissions to vote
for a write-up by the authour's name, then I don't see that as problem, as it is their decision to vote for the person and not for a write-up, that would be the best in their opinion. (I do not meant to say that anyone is doing that, I just got the feeling that others think that way.) IMO the progress of developing and improving the write-up for creature would be curbed, if the author couldn't answer comments for his write-up directly, or someone who want clarification or ideas for improvement couldn't send his questions or ideas directly to the author.
I'm ok with anonymous votings. I don't like it, that someone should feel defensive for his opinion/vote, and that's the best way to prevent that (AFAICS). So please, keep this thread just for the votes and start a new thread, if you like to discuss how the next competition should look like.
And stop being that paranoid.... after all, it's just an entry in a document.
p.s.: Although, it was funny the first time I saw it, all these campaigning is getting pretty annoying IMHO.
Quarex rules- that is they have my vote! i have beem looking for a great darksun familiar for a while and this one is tops. i have been using Bart- my quarex familiar- for about three weeks and he it totally cool.
Thanks!
A quarrex familiar, huh? Great way to get wasted, if you don't mind him chewing on you a bit. :DAnonymous submissions
Don't you think, that's going to far?
I agree totally with Bengeldorn. The entire idea behind this is to have fun and make cool Athasian stuff. Getting something into an official product would be cool, but I would hope most of us are just creating for the love of the game and the setting. Besides, its not like anyone is making money off this. Let's not loose site of why we're doing this in the first place everyone.
That said, I'll reiterate that I'm all for anonymous voting (gets rid of some of the problems already seen). Anonymous creation would be too much, though.
I have to agree that anonymous creation might be taking things too far. I don't think people are voting for their friends over the actual creations. At least I wouldn't ;) . The additional difficulties in relaying message to a third party for posting could impede the process quite a bit like Bengeldorn suggested. I mean I don't have a problem with it necessarily, it just doesn't really seem necessary and cause some complications.
I for one wouldn't even bother participating in a contest with anonymous creation stippulations like those that have been suggested. Too much effort, too many complications would, IMO, essentially take all the fun out of what is essentially a labor of love. Much easier to just post the creation directly on the boards.
More importantly, running something like that would take precious time away from the athas.org crew that they could be using to get official stuff done.
I for one wouldn't even bother participating in a contest with anonymous creation stippulations like those that have been suggested. Too much effort, too many complications would, IMO, essentially take all the fun out of what is essentially a labor of love. Much easier to just post the creation directly on the boards.
More importantly, running something like that would take precious time away from the athas.org crew that they could be using to get official stuff done.
True
Just a reminder: voting closes at midnight GMT on September 7th - only a couple of days to go...
Vote Jeipug!
:D
I really like the concept of preservers changed to fight the defilers. Not so happy with how it turned out - would rather a more 'monstrous' less intelligent creature.
My vote is for the Scrae'Aylith.
I really like the concept of preservers changed to fight the defilers. Not so happy with how it turned out - would rather a more 'monstrous' less intelligent creature.
If the winning creature goes in Terrors of Athas 'as is' ill (instead) vote for the Mir'iseth - its nicely crafted.
The very nature of design work precludes the possibility of any entry going into ToA "as is". All design work goes through a process of editing and refinement and the competition winner will be no exception to this. However, we will of course endeavour to remain as close as possible to the originals in terms of both mechanics and flavour.
So, who are you voting for again? ;)
(As of the time of this post, 10 hours remain to enter votes, btw...)
I gotta place my vote with the Vlerryl, cause there are plenty of big bad things in darksun and not enough little bad things :D
Well said!
The final tally is as follows:
Mir’iseth - 9 votes
Jeipug - 6 votes
Quarex - 2 votes
Vlerryl - 2 votes
Scrae’Aylith - 1 votes.
The Mir'iseth wins - congratulations Kalthandrix!
Great job to all who entered - even if you didn't win, your critters are out there in the community now and, as several posters have already said, will be used in games nevertheless. Plus it has been a laugh, which is what matters the most.
Thanks also to everyone who voted and gave feedback on the entries and the competition itself. Let's have more of these!
Kam- what now? Do I send you the doc for you to look over and comment on so I can make edits to it?
I am really, really grateful for all of you folks that voted for my critter- I really hope that all of you enjoy the Mir'iseth :D
I plan on using most of these in my campaign, so feel good that you were able to expand some of us fan's worlds.
Oops- I am going to edit my old vote (sorry Khaine).
No prob :D
*tosses ceramic pieces*
*steals ceramic pieces and buys some broy*
*steals ceramic pieces and buys some broy*
Hum! *Pulls out crossbow and shoots PC in the back, kicks lifeless body over to get money. Pulls out cellphine and calls up rest of group to find new player :D *