First time posting here, and I have a question for everyone. Have any of you done any work on bringing back of the Blue age? Also has anyone done any work or ideas about "Lifeshaped" items for D&D 3.5?
I was thinking about using a Rhulisti Halfling Druid AB from the Blue Age who also uses wizard's sun magic called Hanotush, meaning "Great Storm". I was thinking of a kind of good version of Rajaat and maybe one of the three Rhulisti from the Comet. Oh and why a sun wizard? He would be one of the Nature Masters who created the Pristine Tower, and would later recreate Rajaat's Sun Magic after returning to Athus. Any ideas on the character?
Thanks,
Rob.
ok, not meaning to sound harsh or anything.. I just don't like a rajaat remake.. not without a good bit of fluff backing it... and thus far I see his theme or his fluff being nothing but raw power.. like the player who makes a fighter/mage/theif/cleric who is lawful good though he tries to stay neutral and has a dark side with chaotic tendencies... (lol)
What I do like about your post above however.. is the idea of restoring the blue age.. (in other words.. please don't feel attacked simply because I didn't like the character concept, its not even completed as yet, you said so yourself.. I could be swayed in the matter in time..) but anyway.. to continue..
I like to think of Athas as a cycle... the planet itself and its ecosystem constantly going through a birth, life, death, rebirth cycle.. right now its dying and will soon be reborn... most people I've seen post things on the board, don't want to see Athas renewed.. I would like it to be so.. with Psionics, Divine and Arcane magics... and Life shaping.. as well as a variety of skills and talents.. but in such a world, where survival and echo terrorism and freedom are no longer driving forces... is it still Athas?? the burned world with a dark sun???
wouldn't that kinda end the story??
How about this.. why not make the story a cycle.. and involve time travel
both to a future restored athas, and a past healed one.. and a present dying one... and to mix it more.. a future that is even more dead... two paths.. le the adventurers run around on an Athas with a black sun cracked waterless earth.. undead.. paraelemntals twisted and malign.. really make Athas like another plane :Pjust an idea...
otherwise.. I say let the avangions heal it all.. (and wouldn't it be cool if Avangions were flying in flocks in the blue age?? traveling there through time, and sharing magic and knowledge?
)
(Unfortunately this would put a damper on the "new Blue Age" thing)
;) :D
If there's ever time travel inserted in the Dark Sun setting, we have to consider voyagers and heralds from the distant, cold future, returned to warn us of the troubles that changed the sun, and brought about the great cold.
In one alternate line campain the players worked with a neutral aligned Lalali-Puy (in my DS she has been sliding away from evil and Defiling) to cause the Crescent Forest to triple in size.
As the character in question is, essentially, a space halfling, it would Kalthandrix's duty to mercilessly butcher him. I'll go call him.
(Unfortunately this would put a damper on the "new Blue Age" thing)
;) :D
I live to serve- and kill all runts, plain, forest, honey roasted, and space varieties all will die
Hi Everyone,
First time posting here, and I have a question for everyone. Have any of you done any work on bringing back of the Blue age? Also has anyone done any work or ideas about "Lifeshaped" items for D&D 3.5?
I was thinking about using a Rhulisti Halfling Druid AB from the Blue Age who also uses wizard's sun magic called Hanotush, meaning "Great Storm". I was thinking of a kind of good version of Rajaat and maybe one of the three Rhulisti from the Comet. Oh and why a sun wizard? He would be one of the Nature Masters who created the Pristine Tower, and would later recreate Rajaat's Sun Magic after returning to Athus. Any ideas on the character?
Thanks,
Rob.
Umm.... personally, when I have the Rhulisti arrive, they come as Yuuzhon Vong from Star Wars; their technology (organic tech.) is lifeshaped, mainly because the YV are more or less what became of the "space halflings" that were being considered for Dark Sun. I don't ever let Rajaat's vision succeed -- if he succeeds in his dream, the world dies; there is no way you can recreate a world of water and life by destroying everything upon it.
Rajaat's dream of a Blue Age doesn't come true, and when I have "Rhulisti" arrive, they have a different idea as to what to do.
There has to be a Gray Age also, to go with Greyorm's vision of a snow and ice-covered Athas in the distant future.
If there's ever time travel inserted in the Dark Sun setting, we have to consider voyagers and heralds from the distant, cold future, returned to warn us of the troubles that changed the sun, and brought about the great cold.
On this tangent, was there anymore written on this vision of the future? It's interesting!
Bell
I have thought of restoring the blue age of athas.. but before I go into that, a few thoughts on your posting above... first off.. why a halfling? second, why a druid? third.. tossing in sun magic only seems to make it seem like you're trying to combine every power base imaginable.. druid, life shaping, sun magic, being an advanced being... (i agree, they are all cool... but where is the style??) I think it would be great to have the blue age returned... but the character you are proposing.. why have a new Athasian version of a God tossed down to fix everything rather than an epic adventure by the inhabitants of the planet to restore it??
ok, not meaning to sound harsh or anything.. I just don't like a rajaat remake.. not without a good bit of fluff backing it... and thus far I see his theme or his fluff being nothing but raw power.. like the player who makes a fighter/mage/theif/cleric who is lawful good though he tries to stay neutral and has a dark side with chaotic tendencies... (lol)
What I do like about your post above however.. is the idea of restoring the blue age.. (in other words.. please don't feel attacked simply because I didn't like the character concept, its not even completed as yet, you said so yourself.. I could be swayed in the matter in time..) but anyway.. to continue..
I like to think of Athas as a cycle... the planet itself and its ecosystem constantly going through a birth, life, death, rebirth cycle.. right now its dying and will soon be reborn... most people I've seen post things on the board, don't want to see Athas renewed.. I would like it to be so.. with Psionics, Divine and Arcane magics... and Life shaping.. as well as a variety of skills and talents.. but in such a world, where survival and echo terrorism and freedom are no longer driving forces... is it still Athas?? the burned world with a dark sun???
wouldn't that kinda end the story??
How about this.. why not make the story a cycle.. and involve time travel
just an idea...
otherwise.. I say let the avangions heal it all.. (and wouldn't it be cool if Avangions were flying in flocks in the blue age?? traveling there through time, and sharing magic and knowledge?
Okay good point....Little over the top. Cut the druid, cut the sun magic, cut the remake on Rajaat, keep space halfling, keep the lifeshaping, keep the AB but twist it to a dragon (there is fluff for this but still working on it...), forced rebirth to the blue age using lifeshaped artifacts the "Rhul-tal" that ends in a gray age not the blue age...What do you all think of this????
Rob.
This whole Grey Age could be brough on by one of the space halflings doing something with the Pristine Tower that causes a huge meteor to strike Athas- covering the world with a haze the blocks out the sun and further drains the sun so that between it and the haze the surface tempature really drops causing the build up a snow and stuff.
K. Like summoning a comet that are mostly froze water to hit the planet hoping to use all the frozen water to recreate the seas to cover Athus. Thus having the spell back fire and weaken the sun more then needed. You would need to weaken the sun to bring the temp down so the new seas would not just evaporate away....Interesting thought.
Rob.
It stays within the theme of ecological disasters on Athas.
IMO a return of the Blue Age is totally unreasonable- too much damage has been done to Athas for this to happen. One the other hand, I do believe that a return to the Green Age is possible, though it would be hotter and more arid then before.
I'd say Rajaat could do it, but no one (except maybe the halflings) would like the consequences. He's already started when you think about it. A perpetual storm in the center of the Sea of Silt would, given enough time, eventually turn the whole thing into one big mudflat. This would have the side effects of reducing the planet's average tempurature slightly and the increased moisture would (and already has) increased instances of rainfall in the nearby regions. The Tyr region wouldn't get it as much as the opposite side of the Sea of Silt due to jetstream action, but the effects would multiply. As long as the tap's open, more and more water will run (presumably from the elemental plane of water or rain) into Athas. A new Blue Age is almost inevitable.
Of course, we're talking thousands of years for any significant changes though.
I'd say Rajaat could do it, but no one (except maybe the halflings) would like the consequences. He's already started when you think about it. A perpetual storm in the center of the Sea of Silt would, given enough time, eventually turn the whole thing into one big mudflat. This would have the side effects of reducing the planet's average tempurature slightly and the increased moisture would (and already has) increased instances of rainfall in the nearby regions. The Tyr region wouldn't get it as much as the opposite side of the Sea of Silt due to jetstream action, but the effects would multiply. As long as the tap's open, more and more water will run (presumably from the elemental plane of water or rain) into Athas. A new Blue Age is almost inevitable.
Of course, we're talking thousands of years for any significant changes though.
Hmmmm.... I have to agree that the Tyr storm is going to have a long-term positive impact on Athas, and has very substancialy increase the influence of Rain on the planet.
I don't think its quite to the scale of being able to transform the entire sea of silt into a mudflat, but will certainly increase the size and number of mudflats throughout the sea. The Tyr-Storms spinning off into the tablelands should increase amount of scrub plains and savannas along the coast as well, assuming they can outmatch the pace of destruction wrought by defilers.
Of course I think the biggest boon to Athas is the destruction of so many powerful defilers, it tips the balance quite a bit in favor of Koragunard and the druids. Perhaps now more avangions will be able to succeed at their transformations without being killed by the SKs and the Order.
There has to be a Gray Age also, to go with Greyorm's vision of a snow and ice-covered Athas in the distant future.
If there's ever time travel inserted in the Dark Sun setting, we have to consider voyagers and heralds from the distant, cold future, returned to warn us of the troubles that changed the sun, and brought about the great cold.
perhaps a world such as this would be brought about by the return of Dregoth and the adventurers inability to defeat him before using the power of the pristine tower to achieve godhood (pulling from Athas.org Dregoth Ascension Adventure)...the sun turns a deep purple, almost black, the air chills, the sky darkens, clouds...a god of death born on athas? a world of ice and despair and death...
hehehe, just runnin' with it!
~B-)
On this tangent, was there anymore written on this vision of the future? It's interesting!
Bell
Yes, I'm interested in a possible frozen future where the sun barely generates any heat and barely has any spark of life left to it...sorta like a Crypton scenario...
Of course, it would be used sparingly and offer the PC's an opportunity to correct the mistakes...or they could fail and the world freezes to death...interesting ideas hehe
I don't think its quite to the scale of being able to transform the entire sea of silt into a mudflat, but will certainly increase the size and number of mudflats throughout the sea.
Over a few thousand years (assuming its left undisturbed) it could. It's just a matter of saturating the nearby silt enough so it could moisten the farther away silt. Of course, that only becomes feasible if moisture from the Cerulean Storm is introduced into the environment faster than it can evaporate. In my opinion, that won't happen until the open lava of the Valley is cooled and hardened enough to insulate the rainfall somewhat from its heat. Like I said, it'll take a few thousand years.
Over a few thousand years (assuming its left undisturbed) it could. It's just a matter of saturating the nearby silt enough so it could moisten the farther away silt. Of course, that only becomes feasible if moisture from the Cerulean Storm is introduced into the environment faster than it can evaporate. In my opinion, that won't happen until the open lava of the Valley is cooled and hardened enough to insulate the rainfall somewhat from its heat. Like I said, it'll take a few thousand years.
Hmm... once the lava is cooled and sealed beneath a new crust, the incidence and severity of Tyr-Storms will decrease. Its the heat of the lava that fuels the intensity of the storms, causeing them to spin off from the central storm and brew with such intensity throughout the entire valley and beyond. Without the heat of the lava to fuel the storms they will just rain continually over the area occasionally sending storms to other areas, but mostly just collecting water in the valley until it fills up. So you'll see an expanding sea at the middle of the storm preceded by a slowly expanding mudflat. Of course that only assuming that the storm continues for that longs, there is no garuntee that the cerulean storm is a perminant phenominon.
Still a holy war between Silt and Rain would be an awesome plotline for a campaign a few hundred years perhaps into the future of Athas.
Hmm... once the lava is cooled and sealed beneath a new crust, the incidence and severity of Tyr-Storms will decrease. Its the heat of the lava that fuels the intensity of the storms, causeing them to spin off from the central storm and brew with such intensity throughout the entire valley and beyond. Without the heat of the lava to fuel the storms they will just rain continually over the area occasionally sending storms to other areas, but mostly just collecting water in the valley until it fills up. So you'll see an expanding sea at the middle of the storm preceded by a slowly expanding mudflat. Of course that only assuming that the storm continues for that longs, there is no garuntee that the cerulean storm is a perminant phenominon.
True on all counts :D