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Noble and Mystic for 3.5

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#1
luisjoey
Sep 05, 2005 17:10:37 I was wondering about the Noble and Mystic Core class of Dragonlance setting if they were changed to fit with the new 3.5 rules?

If the answer is yes, where i can find those modifications/actualizations????

Thanks.
#2
Dragonhelm
Sep 05, 2005 17:24:09 They're already 3.5-compatible, so no changes are needed.
#3
kalanth
Sep 05, 2005 17:59:08 Noble has to be my favorite class of all time, it actually takes the place that Cleric has held in my heart since I started this game. I can never convince any players to be a Noble, but damned if I won't play one when I am given the chance.
#4
cam_banks
Sep 05, 2005 19:49:19
I was wondering about the Noble and Mystic Core class of Dragonlance setting if they were changed to fit with the new 3.5 rules?

There are no 3.0 Dragonlance rules, in fact, outside of some fan work and a couple of early attempts in the appendices of novels or in Dungeon magazine. All of the Dragonlance material you can buy is 3.5.

Cheers,
Cam
#5
Dragonhelm
Sep 05, 2005 20:14:40
Noble has to be my favorite class of all time, it actually takes the place that Cleric has held in my heart since I started this game. I can never convince any players to be a Noble, but damned if I won't play one when I am given the chance.

So what makes the noble so appealing to you?
#6
kalanth
Sep 05, 2005 21:05:02
So what makes the noble so appealing to you?

I love the politcal side of the character, the special abilities that make it such an RP focused character pull me into it. There is also the fact that it is not tied to anything specific, so if I wanted to be a Noble / Rogue or Noble / Wizard or any other combination I don't need much explanation to that. Plus I like playing in some form of nobility, the idea of increased reputation from lineage is cool to me. I have plenty of Net articles and a copy of Dungeon that cover the subject exclusively.
#7
luisjoey
Sep 05, 2005 21:43:00 Yes, I usually use noble when im not playing paladin in star wars, and now in D&D i want to have the chance of trying that class, it have lot of exploit for roleplaying.

Thanks for all your answers.
#8
brimstone
Sep 06, 2005 11:40:45
There are no 3.0 Dragonlance rules, in fact, outside of some fan work and a couple of early attempts in the appendices of novels or in Dungeon magazine. All of the Dragonlance material you can buy is 3.5.

Except for the small fact that the DLCS was written to 3.0 rules and WotC should have updated it to 3.5 rules. A lot of which it did...but some things slipped through as 3.0.

Um...off the top of my head, I can't remember what, but it seems like it was with the monsters. Maybe some of the dragon rules? The advanced dragon rules, maybe?

Hmm...maybe I just need to lay off the crack pipe a little. heh heh
#9
Dragonhelm
Sep 06, 2005 11:49:16
Except for the small fact that the DLCS was written to 3.0 rules and WotC should have updated it to 3.5 rules. A lot of which it did...but some things slipped through as 3.0.

The DLCS is actually the first 3.5 campaign setting. It was in production even as WotC was gearing up for the 3.5 releases. It was designed with the 3.5 rules in mind, though being an early 3.5 product, a few things may have slipped through the cracks.

Hmm...maybe I just need to lay off the crack pipe a little. heh heh

LOL! No comment. ;)
#10
ferratus
Sep 06, 2005 12:09:03 The noble is an intriguing idea (as are its abilities) but you are essentially under the DM's control for how much you can actually influence the game. A fatal flaw in the Noble Class, and why I will probably only use for NPC's, if I use it at all.

The mystic gets free metamagic feats every five levels in my game, essentially to allow it to maximize or empower healing, so it doesn't have to select every single cure variant spell, every level. As well, there are very few blasting spells in the cleric spell list, which the lightly armoured spontaneous caster absolutely needs.

If Holy Orders gives spontaneous healing, and imports some wizard/sorcerer spells into the mystic spell list, it would be a better fix. Still not as powerful as a cleric though, as they lose one domain ability and a lot of armour class.
#11
zombiegleemax
Sep 06, 2005 13:28:37 Is there a difference between the two noble classes from DL and in Star Wars?
#12
ferratus
Sep 06, 2005 13:30:30 No, the noble in the DLCS was lifted completely from the Star Wars Rulebook. The difference is of course that the DLCS lacked the information on how favours worked, and what they entitled you to.
#13
zombiegleemax
Sep 07, 2005 11:42:58 Was that information left out intentionaly?
#14
luisjoey
Sep 07, 2005 14:54:34 Actually if you want to know how a noble works you should read the sw core class, is really good, but need an adaptation, compared to other clases in D&D Noble is kind of under powered, is kind a bard but he needs more class skills, and maybe two more abilities or feats.
#15
zombiegleemax
Sep 08, 2005 16:24:48 Are there many players out there with Noble Pcs in DL?
#16
luisjoey
Sep 08, 2005 20:49:32 Well i had never played DL but i think that in star wars, noble is a good class for multiclasing, especially to make noble warriors, knights and high class mages it is a political level to any character. :D

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 luisjoey Sep 05, 2005 17:10:37	I was wondering about the Noble and Mystic Core class of Dragonlance setting if they were changed to fit with the new 3.5 rules? If the answer is yes, where i can find those modifications/actualizations???? Thanks.
#2 Dragonhelm Sep 05, 2005 17:24:09	They're already 3.5-compatible, so no changes are needed.
#3 kalanth Sep 05, 2005 17:59:08	Noble has to be my favorite class of all time, it actually takes the place that Cleric has held in my heart since I started this game. I can never convince any players to be a Noble, but damned if I won't play one when I am given the chance.
#4 cam_banks Sep 05, 2005 19:49:19	I was wondering about the Noble and Mystic Core class of Dragonlance setting if they were changed to fit with the new 3.5 rules? There are no 3.0 Dragonlance rules, in fact, outside of some fan work and a couple of early attempts in the appendices of novels or in Dungeon magazine. All of the Dragonlance material you can buy is 3.5. Cheers, Cam
#5 Dragonhelm Sep 05, 2005 20:14:40	Noble has to be my favorite class of all time, it actually takes the place that Cleric has held in my heart since I started this game. I can never convince any players to be a Noble, but damned if I won't play one when I am given the chance. So what makes the noble so appealing to you?
#6 kalanth Sep 05, 2005 21:05:02	So what makes the noble so appealing to you? I love the politcal side of the character, the special abilities that make it such an RP focused character pull me into it. There is also the fact that it is not tied to anything specific, so if I wanted to be a Noble / Rogue or Noble / Wizard or any other combination I don't need much explanation to that. Plus I like playing in some form of nobility, the idea of increased reputation from lineage is cool to me. I have plenty of Net articles and a copy of Dungeon that cover the subject exclusively.
#7 luisjoey Sep 05, 2005 21:43:00	Yes, I usually use noble when im not playing paladin in star wars, and now in D&D i want to have the chance of trying that class, it have lot of exploit for roleplaying. Thanks for all your answers.
#8 brimstone Sep 06, 2005 11:40:45	There are no 3.0 Dragonlance rules, in fact, outside of some fan work and a couple of early attempts in the appendices of novels or in Dungeon magazine. All of the Dragonlance material you can buy is 3.5. Except for the small fact that the DLCS was written to 3.0 rules and WotC should have updated it to 3.5 rules. A lot of which it did...but some things slipped through as 3.0. Um...off the top of my head, I can't remember what, but it seems like it was with the monsters. Maybe some of the dragon rules? The advanced dragon rules, maybe? Hmm...maybe I just need to lay off the crack pipe a little. heh heh
#9 Dragonhelm Sep 06, 2005 11:49:16	Except for the small fact that the DLCS was written to 3.0 rules and WotC should have updated it to 3.5 rules. A lot of which it did...but some things slipped through as 3.0. The DLCS is actually the first 3.5 campaign setting. It was in production even as WotC was gearing up for the 3.5 releases. It was designed with the 3.5 rules in mind, though being an early 3.5 product, a few things may have slipped through the cracks. Hmm...maybe I just need to lay off the crack pipe a little. heh heh LOL! No comment. ;)
#10 ferratus Sep 06, 2005 12:09:03	The noble is an intriguing idea (as are its abilities) but you are essentially under the DM's control for how much you can actually influence the game. A fatal flaw in the Noble Class, and why I will probably only use for NPC's, if I use it at all. The mystic gets free metamagic feats every five levels in my game, essentially to allow it to maximize or empower healing, so it doesn't have to select every single cure variant spell, every level. As well, there are very few blasting spells in the cleric spell list, which the lightly armoured spontaneous caster absolutely needs. If Holy Orders gives spontaneous healing, and imports some wizard/sorcerer spells into the mystic spell list, it would be a better fix. Still not as powerful as a cleric though, as they lose one domain ability and a lot of armour class.
#11 zombiegleemax Sep 06, 2005 13:28:37	Is there a difference between the two noble classes from DL and in Star Wars?
#12 ferratus Sep 06, 2005 13:30:30	No, the noble in the DLCS was lifted completely from the Star Wars Rulebook. The difference is of course that the DLCS lacked the information on how favours worked, and what they entitled you to.
#13 zombiegleemax Sep 07, 2005 11:42:58	Was that information left out intentionaly?
#14 luisjoey Sep 07, 2005 14:54:34	Actually if you want to know how a noble works you should read the sw core class, is really good, but need an adaptation, compared to other clases in D&D Noble is kind of under powered, is kind a bard but he needs more class skills, and maybe two more abilities or feats.
#15 zombiegleemax Sep 08, 2005 16:24:48	Are there many players out there with Noble Pcs in DL?
#16 luisjoey Sep 08, 2005 20:49:32	Well i had never played DL but i think that in star wars, noble is a good class for multiclasing, especially to make noble warriors, knights and high class mages it is a political level to any character. :D