xlorepdarkhelm wrote:
But yes, I agree, if I ran Rajaat in a campaign, I'd have him totally driven towards his one ideal, his one goal.. He alone would understand that (perhaps) it was against the original nature masters laws to alter their own race.. and as such, would see the current races as a perversion, mutants, and in a way, diseased.. that the races can all function and breed is merely a testiment to the halflings power at lifeshaping, but in the end, he would see it as contrary to what should be.. and as such, he would alter everything to restore a Blue Athas..
(If you look at things as elements of building blocks.. with the original being halfling matter... it kinda makes sense... or think of it this way.. someone starts splicing human genes.. now fast forward a few centuries.. there are all sorts of weird species similar to human going on.. humans are a minority, tribal, scattered, they've lost thier role as rulers... now.. along comes one of the newest alterations... more deformed than the rest but frighteningly intelligent.. it recognizes the original humans as the ancient heirs of this world... and sees all the current monsters as just that.. mutant monsters that have overtaken the world... so what if they have their own cultures and ideals... they are not natural... they are created.. and as such.. less than humans.. humans must be restored... aka.. war....)
if you twist something long enough it almost seems to make sense
and from a halfling point of view, Rajaat is a savior of sorts.if you twist something long enough it almost seems to make sense
Precisely, and Rajaat's had plenty of time to examine and twist his beliefs. ;)
Rajaat's insanity made him "color outside the lines" so to speak when he set forth on his plan. He saw all of the Pristine Races as himself, twisted abominations of what should be (ie: Halflings). His own self-loathing resulted in his determination to scour the world of ALL non-halflings in order to achieve his goals--and to ignore the methods. For him, it was a machiavellian ideal: the Ends most definitely justified the Means. He no longer was seeing anything clearly. When his Champions rebelled against him, they most likely caught hm offguard--so focused was he on his End Result. They entrapped him (by a miracle, I'd imagine), and then he had 2,000 years of solitary confinement, with nothing but the whispers of his loyal halfling servants trapped in the Black (Shadow Giants) to keep him company. That's 2,000 years of going over everything in your head, over and over again. Not exactly an environment prone to keeping anyone lucid. Rajaat's insanity expanded. When he was freed, he most likely viewed himself as a god, and that his "children" had rebelled against him, and needed punishment. He then gets "trapped" again, but after 2,000 years, maybe he feels that the Hollow is a nice "home" for him while he works out the details of the rest of his now even further-twisted plans.
I think we have enough cleche (spelling?) villainy
cliché ;)
cliché ;)
thanks for the correction.. how do you get that little symbol above the e??
I have a north american french-language keyboard. The accents are keys I can hit.
You can do it even if you have an english-language keyboard. Open up Word: go to Insertion/Special Characters, and then scroll down and you'll find all of the accented symbols (à, â, ê, é, ë).
With this you will be able to properly write all of the french expression that have ended up in the english language:
- à la
- cliché
- vis-à-vis
thanks :DSo Hitler really was insane but Rajaat is misunderstood! :D
Anyone thought of a follower of Rajaat PrC??? or Template?? some misguided lone group that tries to follow the teachings of the first sorceror since his resurgence into Athasian culture w/the death of Borys??
Anyone thought of a follower of Rajaat PrC??? or Template?? some misguided lone group that tries to follow the teachings of the first sorceror since his resurgence into Athasian culture w/the death of Borys??
not quite.... I am working up a prestige class along those lines..... but it was for followers of Rajaat period..... and it was for his servants.... the halflings
Many people of true genius were thought of as lunitics, until their work was found to be useful and others stopped to listen to them. Yes he is evil, but he is doing what he thinks is right.
He truely belives that all other races are impure or mockerys of the true form and has devoted his wold existance to fixing it- kinda like when you have doctors or researchers work on a formula for 25 or more years- it is what drives them becasue they have a vision that most people cannot see. Passing his mission off as insanity is a cheap and easy way out that I think has been overdone.
Cool, reasoning, and thoughtful opponents are a true challenge and even if they are doing something evil, they may have a rational and logical reason for their actions.
Anyway, those are my thoughts on this subject.
lets not forget, that the original SK's were all for Rajaat's plan until they found that he humans were on the extermination list as well.. sure they are all evil, and yes Daskinor is Insane, but they can't all be totally insane :P its just the point of view..I really think that Rajaat is not insane- but instead very intelligent and sane.
Many people of true genius were thought of as lunitics, until their work was found to be useful and others stopped to listen to them. Yes he is evil, but he is doing what he thinks is right.
Ahh I'm not questioning you there. The issue is the level of his insanity. His insanity stems from a very simple miscalculation. Insanity can mean a very wide range of different things, including basing your entire focus in life on a misguided step. For instance, he based his whole life's work on going back to the Blue Age. He's fixated on it. His idea for how to achieve the Blue Age is, however, inherently flawed -- he is wiping out all the Pristine Races from the Rebirth and afterwards, using magic that he invented that is scouring the land of all life-giving nutrients, and somehow by doing all of this, his plan is to go back to a water-covered world of lush greenery on the little islands that were above the water. His most likely (Accam's Razor on this one) result will be a very, VERY dead world, and even if he can bring back the oceans, he'd still have nothing living there. The insanity he has is that he totally believes that his plan is perfect, so much that he completely rejects anything that remotly would suggest otherwise.
He truely belives that all other races are impure or mockerys of the true form and has devoted his wold existance to fixing it- kinda like when you have doctors or researchers work on a formula for 25 or more years- it is what drives them becasue they have a vision that most people cannot see. Passing his mission off as insanity is a cheap and easy way out that I think has been overdone.
Cool, reasoning, and thoughtful opponents are a true challenge and even if they are doing something evil, they may have a rational and logical reason for their actions.
Anyway, those are my thoughts on this subject.
Well, as you can see, we're in agreement. However, you seem to be put off by the word "insanity" -- most likely filled with visions of someone in a padded room with a straight jacket on screaming their heads off pointlessly. There are, as I said, many subtle levels of insanity, several are almost imperceivable, except that they usually stem from a mis-understanding of the world around. Or, in Rajaat's case, an incorrect assumption as to the truth of what he has done to the world. He sees only what he wants to see, and has seemingly disregarded any evidence showing that what he's done is not going to achieve his blissful return to the Blue Age.