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#1 zombiegleemax Sep 12, 2005 8:40:06	Allright, i find mention of these, and i am looking for more info on all of them. I know dave arneson's campaign is blackmoor, and they included it in greyhawk, but what is the egg of coot? And is the city of the gods a technological city like the dnd module of the same name (crash-landed aliens in a spaceship built a city, later gave rise to the temple of the frog?) Anyone with answers to these questions, help is appreciated.
#2 armitage Sep 12, 2005 18:21:11	The City of the Gods was most recently mentioned in Dungeon #126. "The Clockwork Fortress", by Wolfgang Baur. The City was described as the ruined capital of an ancient kingdom that specialized in creating constructs and clockwork magic.
#3 ripvanwormer Sep 12, 2005 18:57:55	Some of these questions are also dealt with in this thread, which describes the Egg of Coot.
#4 zombiegleemax Sep 13, 2005 11:25:35	There's also a mention of the City of the Gods in the 1sr ed Greyhawk Adventures hardcover by Jim Ward.
#5 ripvanwormer Sep 13, 2005 15:34:20	See also Robilar Remembers: Journey to the City of the Gods for details of the original campaign. It's safe to assume it was originally intended to be the same as the one from Dave Arneson's campaign that inspired the module co-written by Dave Arneson; since Mordenkainen and Robilar adventured in it, that explains how it also ended up on Oerth.
#6 extempus Feb 07, 2006 23:07:31	There's also a mention of the City of the Gods in the 1sr ed Greyhawk Adventures hardcover by Jim Ward. The text doesn't specifically name Rigodruok as the City of the Gods, but the description leaves little doubt that that's in fact what it is. The LGG mentions it as well (p. 154), but also seems to imply that Oerth is hollow (which is fine with me, since IMC Oerth is in fact hollow; the Hollow World boxed set works just fine for my purposes)...
#7 Mortepierre Feb 08, 2006 2:23:24	I think the LGG is wrong about that part (then again, all it does is list local rumors). For one thing, the City of the Gods is said to be (just) outside the Land of Black Ice, while the GH Adventures (hardcover) places Rainbow Vale firmly within. For another, Rigodruok isn't described as full of technological wonders. Broken rusted towers, spiders and goblinkin don't remind me of the kind of stuff one could run into the old DA3 module. Where are the robots? That said, Rigodruok could well be a former outpost created by inhabitants of the City of the Gods. My personal theory is that it holds the secret to the existence of Black Ice (-> to keep the vale warm & comfy, all the land surrounding it is transformed into black ice) and that some technologically-superior folks discovered it long ago, attempted to colonize and ran into more trouble than they could handle.
#8 extempus Feb 08, 2006 4:06:35	I don't have DA3, so I can't comment on that (I saw it in the bookstore about 20 years ago and almost bought it...). However, I was commenting on the basics: iron buildings and artificial warmth in (or near) an otherwise frozen wasteland identified as the Land of Black Ice. You're right, though: the other sources I checked indicate that it's outside the Land of Black Ice and not actually within it. Page 60 of A Guide to the World of Greyhawk (1983) and page 62 of the Atlas of the Flanaess (1992) agree with the LGG (2000). It seems that James Ward's Greyhawk Adventures (1988) is the odd one out here; he may have altered the location to suit his own ideas, and later authors were either unaware of or ignored it and moved it back to where EGG originally placed it. In any case, it's academic IMC: my players found Rigodruok in the Land of Black Ice and it was as GA described it. Obviously, what was described as being in the City of the Gods was nothing more than wild rumor, but they did find ancient Flan records there...
#9 thanael Feb 08, 2006 6:42:29	Here's a useful site on Dave Arneson's Blackmoor campaign: http://www.geocities.com/havardfaa/index.html