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#1 Cthulhudrew Sep 26, 2005 16:50:26	Eldersphinx' recent post on the Faenare windsinger got me to go back and reread the info on them from PC2, specifically the Song of the Rainbow power. It got me to thinking, then- given that the Faenare are mentioned to likely be kin to the elves and the Faedorne, and that their most powerful windsingers can sing a rainbow (with travel expediting powers) into existence, might the Rainbow Bridge of the Sylvan elves possibly be simply the result of a powerful faenare windsong? Perhaps the most powerful windsingers came together in chorus to create this bridge, that now has a permanent (if randomly located) existence? The faedorne could then be traced back to the Sylvan Realm, and perhaps this could also answer the question of the origin of the winged elves/avariel of the Arm of the Immortal- centuries of crossbreeding between the related faedorne and elves?
#2 Hugin Sep 26, 2005 21:02:51	Well, I'm no expert on the matter (I don't even have CM7 'The Tree of Life') but I think that's a fantastic explaination for the Rainbow Bridge. Very Cool! They performed some kind of mass collaboration 'spell' in a manner that parallels the way in which the elves created the Canolbarth Forest. It could be that the Faenare are the ones that taught the elves the possibilty of multi-caster spell applications. Anyhow, very interesting thoughts Cthulhudrew.
#3 havard Sep 27, 2005 2:21:00	Eldersphinx' recent post on the Faenare windsinger got me to go back and reread the info on them from PC2, specifically the Song of the Rainbow power. It got me to thinking, then- given that the Faenare are mentioned to likely be kin to the elves and the Faedorne, and that their most powerful windsingers can sing a rainbow (with travel expediting powers) into existence, might the Rainbow Bridge of the Sylvan elves possibly be simply the result of a powerful faenare windsong? Perhaps the most powerful windsingers came together in chorus to create this bridge, that now has a permanent (if randomly located) existence? The faedorne could then be traced back to the Sylvan Realm, and perhaps this could also answer the question of the origin of the winged elves/avariel of the Arm of the Immortal- centuries of crossbreeding between the related faedorne and elves? As Hugin said, quite a few interesting suggestions here. Another version could be that when Mealiden asked the Faedorne to help him access the Rainbow Bridge, some of the Faedorne had to undergo a dramatic change in order to accomplish this feat, thus becoming the worlds first Faenare. I gotta say the idea of a massive chorus of faenare opening the bridge is extremely visually pleasing though... I also like bringing in the Faedorne into this because it suggests a large collection of Shining Isles above the Sylvan Realm. Wonder what happened to these during the Morkroft affair, but they probably returned again when his reign ended. Håvard
#4 zombiegleemax Sep 27, 2005 9:23:52	I gotta say the idea of a massive chorus of faenare opening the bridge is extremely visually pleasing though... I agree, although I must admit that the first visual image that popped-up in my mind while reading Cthulhudrew's description were the Care-Bears... Anyways, the REAL reason for this post is this: While reading these posts, I suddenly realized that I got the Faenare and the Faedorne all mixed up. So can someone please explain me who's who?
#5 gazza555 Sep 27, 2005 9:36:38	I agree, although I must admit that the first visual image that popped-up in my mind while reading Cthulhudrew's description were the Care-Bears... Anyways, the REAL reason for this post is this: While reading these posts, I suddenly realized that I got the Faenare and the Faedorne all mixed up. So can someone please explain me who's who? Very briefy, The Faenare are a race of 'humanoid eagle types' whereas the Faedorne are an Elvenlike fey face. See link Regards, Gary
#6 zombiegleemax Sep 27, 2005 13:35:38	Thanks! That makes more sense. But why, then, is the image of a massive chorus of humanoid eagles visually appealing to Håvard (At last! I have a Swedish computer, and I can write Håvard's name correctly!)? Hmmm... I guess that's something I should address to him... :D
#7 ripvanwormer Sep 27, 2005 18:18:45	The Faenare never got a proper illustration (like several of the races in Top Ballista), so it's hard to tell exactly how elven and how avian they are. I'm thinking they might look like these guys from Races of the Wild. Also, might this all tie in to the Outer Planes of Bifrost and Alfheim mentioned in The Northern Reaches?
#8 eldersphinx Sep 27, 2005 20:56:42	I suspect the faenare are much closer to human-like features and body type than the aarakocra are. OTOH, Top Ballista does pretty much specify that faenare wings spread out from the arms (rather than separate attachments to the shoulderblades, as the raptorans possess) - this specifically makes arms and hands unusable in combat, though the dexterity of their foot-claws mostly makes up for this. Whether this is enough of an issue for us to reject pretty raptoran pictures as unsuitable for faenare PCs is another issue entirely, of course. Another option for racial pics would be to try and dig up some of the old DL artwork on the kyrie demihuman race.
#9 gazza555 Sep 28, 2005 3:51:33	(At last! I have a Swedish computer, and I can write Håvard's name correctly!)? I cheat by copy and pasting Håvard's name. ;) Regards, Gary
#10 havard Oct 07, 2005 11:44:53	I cheat by copy and pasting Håvard's name. ;) Regards, Gary Oh my.... Håvard
#11 agathokles Oct 14, 2005 1:56:32	Whether this is enough of an issue for us to reject pretty raptoran pictures as unsuitable for faenare PCs is another issue entirely, of course. Another option for racial pics would be to try and dig up some of the old DL artwork on the kyrie demihuman race. Or the Avoral from PS (here apparently with another Guardinal): It's a 3e image, but since the PS pic by Diterlizzi does not show the whole body, it's probably the best we can get. Discard the body-builder look, and we should be pretty close.
#12 havard Oct 14, 2005 7:56:37	Or the Avoral from PS (here apparently with another Guardinal): That is an awesome picture of a Faenare. You're right, most Faenare haven't been working out as much as this one, but it is still a cool illustration showing how the wings are attached to its arms and how it has feathers instead of hair...Neat! Håvard
#13 zombiegleemax Oct 21, 2005 8:44:16	Wow that is beautiful. I'm speechless. I wan't really inthis discussion, but I have to comment that i like that look. Even the muscles.