I don't really have anything negative to say about it. I was surprised that there were no new feats, but that's probably a good thing. It was interesting to note the much greater inclusion of demons/devils/extraplanar creatures; it was nice to see. Personally, I like the idea of having set creatures for the Planar Ally spells; it's much better than having players running spreadsheets to figure out which is the best possible creature to summon; it makes more sense to me that the divine power would pick who/what to send.
Two thumbs up from me.
Excellent! Consider writing up a review and posting it to ENWorld or RPGnet! (*looks at Trampas* In addition to the Nexus!)
Thanks, bro. I appreciate the support.
I loved the book as well, though I was dissapointed with one thing. I was looking for a larger description for the use of Paladin's and Mystics, and their roles in the world of the divine. Its no problem that these were not what I wanted, I just hope that a future book covers them in more detail.
Paladins are fairly non-standard, so I think those were covered nicely.
What I really liked, though, was the sections in each of the Holy Orders on how they dealt with the other three major spellcasters of DL (WoHS, sorcerers, and mystics). I think this was an improvement over Towers of High Sorcery, which didn't give as much detail.
Paladins are fairly non-standard, so I think those were covered nicely.
I can understand that, but here is to hoping. I like the paladin, but I also try to convince the paladin wanna be to play a KoS, so I did not mind to much.
What I really liked, though, was the sections in each of the Holy Orders on how they dealt with the other three major spellcasters of DL (WoHS, sorcerers, and mystics). I think this was an improvement over Towers of High Sorcery, which didn't give as much detail.
I agree with you, this was a great part of the book, maybe I was just expecting so much more. I want something specific to mystics, they are facinating to me, especially thanks to the player who is a mystic and watching his interpretation of the class.
I agree with you, this was a great part of the book, maybe I was just expecting so much more. I want something specific to mystics, they are facinating to me, especially thanks to the player who is a mystic and watching his interpretation of the class.
It's the Holy Order of the Stars, yeah, not Divine Spellcasters of Krynn.
That said, there are new domains and new spells in the book that mystics can make use of, as well as variant rules and options for modifying the spell lists. Plus, many of the prestige classes can be tweaked to become mystic-friendly. Change some of the requirements a little and the classes would stand on their own quite well.Cheers,
Cam
It's the Holy Order of the Stars, yeah, not Divine Spellcasters of Krynn.
Agreed. For example, you could take a Healing Hand of Mishakal and make it into a Citadel Healer.
fantastic work guys, can't wait to finish reading it.
It was a good book and I enjoyed how they talked about how the different orders view mystics. Will there ever be a book on ambient magic released by Soverign?
It's not currently planned, but certainly not out of the question. It was actually one of the products I originally pitched when we began the Dragonlance line several years ago.
Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
Well you get my vote for that new book, if it were to ever be written. The 3.5 sorcerer is just not the same as the DL one was. Maybe it could devel into the dragon sorcerers like Ulin a bit more and we could see how these classes view clerics and wizards and the Knights!
I second that notion
It's not currently planned, but certainly not out of the question. It was actually one of the products I originally pitched when we began the Dragonlance line several years ago.
I'm sure you already know (well, at least the Whitestone Council folks do) but a book about the Ambient Spellcasters of Krynn would be an incredible book! And desperately needed, in my opinion. Especially if there are more PrCs like the Ambient Tempest from Bestiary of Krynn. Sorcerers and Mystics need more choices like that. (a reworked Academy Sorcerer and Citadel Mystic would be great too!)
Yeah...I'd drool over this book. (but, if that knight book idea ever comes to fruition that we've heard being kicked around for the past couple years, I'd be alright with getting that one first...so long as it included the Legion of Steel!)
A book about the orders of Knights would be great, KOS, LOS, KOT, and KDH!
Don't forget the Ergothian Cavaliers.
Don't forget the Ergothian Cavaliers.
And the Order of the Gold Lance. ;)
And the Order of the Gold Lance. ;)
Don't forget the Brotherhood of the Obscure Reference!
Cheers,
Cam
Don't forget the Brotherhood of the Obscure Reference!
ROTFL!
I'm a card-carrying member. ;)
I have read about the Knights of the Golden Lance on the Nexus but the Ergothian cavaliers? Where does one find info on them?
It's a kind of throw away reference in TotL. (hence Cam's joke, I think)
It's a kind of throw away reference in TotL. (hence Cam's joke, I think)
They're in Legend of Huma, too. But so are a lot of things.
Ergoth needs a lot more love, though. Folks who think Ansalon is all explored and no longer in need of development aren't really paying attention to what hasn't yet been properly covered.
Cheers,
Cam
Ergoth needs a lot more love, though. Folks who think Ansalon is all explored and no longer in need of development aren't really paying attention to what hasn't yet been properly covered.
Whoa! People are saying that!? That...that just ain't right.
Back to knights, though, I would assume that most of the great cultures have their "knights" of sorts (or their great armored cavalry/warriors). A little bit of info on these groups might be interesting in this book, but obviously the book needs to be about the Knights of Solamnia, the Knights of Neraka, and the Legion of Steel. (the Knights of the Divine Hammer should get some love, too...but not as much as the other three)
I think the rest of those groups would be better suited to racial books, or culture books, or regional books or something similar to that (books like they did with Sovereign Stone races...that'd be slick...if they continue to produce DL books, that is. I think they're selling well enough, aren't they?)
This is the coolest book ever because the guy on the cover has an excellent mullet. The only way he could look any tougher would be to put a black Trans-Am in the background.
The only way he could look any tougher would be to put a black Trans-Am in the background.
The original sketch had him wearing an Iron Maiden concert t-shirt. ;)
The only way he could look any tougher would be to put a black Trans-Am in the background.
Hehe... don't forget the sawed-off double barreled 10 guage shot gun of harmony. It is D&D after all.
My gf ordered holy orders and tower of high sorc for me for getting honours on my midterms. I can't wait =) Although amazon said 1-3 months for tower of high sorc. So I am not sure if it will come =(
With the book completely out of stock for quite some time in our warehouse, I can only hope one of Amazon's non-direct suppliers has it. There might be a chance that you'll be out of luck on Towers -- though you never know! I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
When I return from Italy, I'll be considering reprints on some of our out-of-print titles. More news as it comes!
Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.