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#1 zombiegleemax Oct 16, 2005 7:12:32	Greetings fellow gamers, I am missing something in my DS campaign. Looking jealously to the heraldric signs of Grehawk i was wondering if someone has or is busy making heraldric symbols for the merchant- and noble house an/or city states.. thom
#2 Grummore Oct 16, 2005 8:59:02	Geez that's a rather nice idea. It could be a excellent project for someone here with an artist talent! And btw, I know that nobody as done such thing in the past. BUT that would be a good idea to do so.
#3 korvar Oct 16, 2005 10:01:39	Is there a list of established heraldic devices mentioned in various books and supplements?
#4 jon_oracle_of_athas Oct 16, 2005 14:17:32	Dune Trader and Veiled Alliance have some information.
#5 ruhl-than_sage Oct 16, 2005 15:05:49	I volunteer myself for the task, :D . Its right down my ally.
#6 Pennarin Oct 16, 2005 20:16:19	Good idea! And Sage is indeed the right guy for the job. Dragon's Crown also mentions that the colors of Hamanu's army were red and black, but the reference is maybe a thousand years old so those colors may have changed.
#7 squidfur- Oct 16, 2005 21:22:40	Good idea! And Sage is indeed the right guy for the job. Dragon's Crown also mentions that the colors of Hamanu's army were red and black, but the reference is maybe a thousand years old so those colors may have changed. As recent as Free Year 2 (as noted in the Crimson Legion) the urikite soldiers are still wearing red and black, and with Urik being the unchanging city, I doubt this will have changed since then.
#8 Pennarin Oct 16, 2005 21:35:19	Cool! I never found the reference in the PP to those colors, so could never be sure it wasn't a product error. Thanks for the confirmation squid So, Urik's amy wears the red and black, and some of the templars white while others yellow.
#9 zombiegleemax Oct 17, 2005 16:01:52	I am quite new at this forum and must say, I am glad of the good response. I myself am not a very good artist in the drawing skill and so trust that the selected person is the best man for the job. The missing heraldry on the city states, noble and merchant houses has always been a mssing part in a lifely adventure. Hope it will work out to be a work of art. Btw, there are mentioning on heraldry in many pocket books, dune trader, veiled alliance and official adventures (see: Freedom on the heraldry of the Noble Tyrtani family). Keep me posted on this quest. Cheers mates
#10 woobyluv Oct 17, 2005 17:23:34	IIRC Hamanu's heraldry was Red/Black with a Lion background. Makes sense, eh?
#11 squidfur- Oct 17, 2005 19:47:55	So, Urik's amy wears the red and black, and some of the templars white while others yellow. Taking info from RaFoaDK all templars wear yellow robes. In addition, they may choose to wear white cloaks (and are the only ones allowed, by law, to do so). IIRC Hamanu's heraldry was Red/Black with a Lion background. Makes sense, eh? Actually, it was never anything so static as this. As mentioned in Veiled Alliance, the variations on the Urik standard are near innumerable. However, most show, in some form or another, either Hamanu or a lion motiff.
#12 Pennarin Oct 18, 2005 1:12:43	Taking info from RaFoaDK all templars wear yellow robes. In addition, they may choose to wear white cloaks (and are the only ones allowed, by law, to do so). Yeah, but there may be different info in the Setting Boxed Set and in VA, where I recall reading about white-robed or cloaked templars. That's why I said both colors are probably true: ordinary templars could wear white, and those who take the Yellow Robe PrC wear yellow, or somehting to that effect...
#13 ruhl-than_sage Oct 18, 2005 1:40:00	I'll need to collect all the information I can about the heraldry of Athas, so I'll start looking through my books to find it. But does anyone know which books I should check first, or of any obscure mentions of heraldry (like in the novels or adventures)?
#14 woobyluv Oct 18, 2005 2:41:41	You might check the Crimson Legion first, I think it would describe the banners of Hamanu's or maybe even the Tyrians armies. After that I'm not too certain, I remember tid bits but I dont remember where they came from
#15 bengeldorn Oct 18, 2005 8:11:04	I don't know if that was meant, but I once made emblemes of the houses Inika, Shom, Stel, Tsalaxa, Vordon and M'ke with Photoshop, based on the descriptions in Dune Traders, that I'm using in my campaign. If anybody is intrested I could mail them to those, who wishes to take a look at them.
#16 Grummore Oct 18, 2005 8:38:28	Drop these in my mailbox ! grummore [ a t ] videotron.ca Oh, and btw, do you mind if I host them on my site?
#17 Pennarin Oct 18, 2005 8:41:01	Send them my way too, Ede, and Sage's too!
#18 korvar Oct 18, 2005 12:00:42	Veilled Alliance (a good overview of what each City-State's Templar's wear, including symbols) Dune Trader (for the Merchant Houses) City-State of Tyr (I think) has some info on the Noble houses.
#19 ruhl-than_sage Oct 18, 2005 22:45:16	Veilled Alliance (a good overview of what each City-State's Templar's wear, including symbols) Dune Trader (for the Merchant Houses) City-State of Tyr (I think) has some info on the Noble houses. Thank you very much, Korvar.
#20 zombiegleemax Oct 19, 2005 0:32:17	I don't know if that was meant, but I once made emblemes of the houses Inika, Shom, Stel, Tsalaxa, Vordon and M'ke with Photoshop, based on the descriptions in Dune Traders, that I'm using in my campaign. If anybody is intrested I could mail them to those, who wishes to take a look at them. if you dont mind