Dragonlance Movie

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#1

zombiegleemax

Oct 17, 2005 18:27:42
The theme song for the Dragonlance movie should be The mummers' dance by Loreena
#2

ranger_reg

Oct 18, 2005 2:29:21
Hmm. I'd like to see what composer Howard Shore can come up with. I still cannot get enough of the Gondorian and Rohirrim theme songs.
#3

brimstone

Oct 18, 2005 9:42:58
Hmm. I'd like to see what composer Howard Shore can come up with. I still cannot get enough of the Gondorian and Rohirrim theme songs.

Really? I kind of disliked the music from Lord of the Rings. Well, that's not entirely true...I do like the theme of the Fellowship.
#4

cam_banks

Oct 18, 2005 11:24:06
Really? I kind of disliked the music from Lord of the Rings. Well, that's not entirely true...I do like the theme of the Fellowship.

My wife and I enjoyed it so much we went to see Howard Shore conduct the Pittsburgh Symphony last year. He'd arranged the entire trilogy's score into a wonderful 2 hour arrangement, and we were all dressed to the nines (in orchestra-going garb, not Ren Faire outfits). I'm a collector of movie soundtracks, and LOTR rates among my top ten (together with Brian Tyler's score from Children of Dune).

Cheers,
Cam
#5

brimstone

Oct 18, 2005 13:24:21
My wife and I enjoyed it so much we went to see Howard Shore conduct the Pittsburgh Symphony last year. He'd arranged the entire trilogy's score into a wonderful 2 hour arrangement, and we were all dressed to the nines (in orchestra-going garb, not Ren Faire outfits). I'm a collector of movie soundtracks, and LOTR rates among my top ten (together with Brian Tyler's score from Children of Dune).

That one I really do like and I have it as well.

I'm not sure why I'm not that thrilled about the LotR soundtrack.

I always liked Kamen's stuff...and Nobuo Uematsu (Final Fantasy games' composer).

There's one guy in particular that I really like and I just can't think of his name...(no I'm not talking about John Williams...although I like his stuff, too).
#6

zombiegleemax

Oct 18, 2005 13:29:02
do you guys know what song i am talking about? Listen to it and you can see how it matches the Dragonlance theme
#7

brimstone

Oct 18, 2005 13:43:17
do you guys know what song i am talking about? Listen to it and you can see how it matches the Dragonlance theme

That'd be a "no." I've never heard of it. (not that I haven't heard it, but I can't recognize it by name, sorry)

Oh...I remembered who it was. James Horner! (Apollo 13, Legends of the Fall, and Troy)

Come to think of it...Hans Zimmer is pretty good too. The important thing is to get someone good with themes and is capable of scoring "epic" movies.
#8

zombiegleemax

Oct 18, 2005 14:01:40
I think some music by Enya would be a nice addition, also, some music by Bond and Enigma too.
#9

orodruin

Oct 18, 2005 14:19:04
do you guys know what song i am talking about? Listen to it and you can see how it matches the Dragonlance theme

A bit too eclectic for my tastes (at least for a movie soundtrack.) I like it, but it's essentially a mishmash of celtic, country-western, indian and new-age music, resulting in a piece that captures neither the epic quality nor the personal, "human" aspects of the Dragonlance saga. It might work as background music (minus the vocals) for scenes in Qualinesti, maybe. But then again, Loreena McKennitt's got other musical pieces that would work even better, particularly in "The Visit." Just my 2p of course! :P
#10

orodruin

Oct 18, 2005 14:29:50
Oh...I remembered who it was. James Horner! (Apollo 13, Legends of the Fall, and Troy)

Not to mention Willow and Krull, two fantasy "Sword and Sorcery" movies. :D James Horner's done some great stuff, particularly earlier in his career. Nowadays he seems to rehash a lot of his older scores though. I'd still be more than happy to have him score a movie.

Oh, and Brian Tyler's Children of Dune does rock! The whole "montage" bit in the first episode was a more than welcome departure from the novel thanks largely to Inama Nushif!
#11

brimstone

Oct 18, 2005 15:29:23
Not to mention Willow and Krull, two fantasy "Sword and Sorcery" movies.

I kind of winced when you said "Krull," but then I realized that's not "Kull" (which used electric guitars...horrible). I'm not sure I'm familiar with that movie. And I was unaware that Willow was done by Horner.
Oh, and Brian Tyler's Children of Dune does rock! The whole "montage" bit in the first episode was a more than welcome departure from the novel thanks largely to Inama Nushif!

That piece (the montage piece) is my favorite piece from the score (followed closely by the percussion bit where the kid is running through the desert super fast...I know it's weird, but I really like that piece).

Oh, but please please no Enya. I already couldn't stand her or her music before Return of the King but after that, I think I almost despise her (not unintirely because I thought best song of the year was "Man of the Hour" by Pearl Jam for Big Fish) :D
#12

clarkvalentine

Oct 18, 2005 15:46:14
Oh, but please please no Enya. I already couldn't stand her or her music before Return of the King but after that, I think I almost despise her (not unintirely because I thought best song of the year was "Man of the Hour" by Pearl Jam for Big Fish) :D

That was Annie Lennox, not Enya. Enya did a piece for Fellowship of the Ring.

And Allison Kraus so deserved that Oscar. ;)
#13

brimstone

Oct 18, 2005 16:47:46
That was Annie Lennox, not Enya. Enya did a piece for Fellowship of the Ring.

Ah yes...that's right. Well, the Enya one wasn't all that great either.

And Allison Kraus so deserved that Oscar. ;)

So...I went back to see who she was and what song she was singing and I couldn't find it (so I'm not sure what you're talking about). But even more strange is that "Man of the Hour" is not listed anywhere!? How can they just take it off the list? Just because they didn't show up? Sting didn't show up, but I notice he's still on the list. WTF?
#14

clarkvalentine

Oct 18, 2005 18:29:10
So...I went back to see who she was and what song she was singing and I couldn't find it (so I'm not sure what you're talking about). ... Sting didn't show up, but I notice he's still on the list. WTF?

Allison Krauss was nominated twice that year, both for the film Cold Mountain - the songs "You WIll Be My Ain True Love" (with Sting on backing vocals) and "The Scarlet Tide". "Ain True Love" is an amazing song, I thought it should win. :D
#15

ranger_reg

Oct 18, 2005 19:22:47
Really? I kind of disliked the music from Lord of the Rings. Well, that's not entirely true...I do like the theme of the Fellowship.

If you like the Lothlorien theme in Fellowship, you might like the cadence-style theme in The Two Towers.

But I'm a sucka for Rohan and their cavalry charge theme music in both Two Towers and Return of the King.
#16

zombiegleemax

Oct 28, 2005 16:38:49
I realize this has nothing to do with a theme song but had to ask.....

ARE THEY DOING AN ACTUAL DRAGONLANCE MOVIE??????

I hadn't heard anything about this if they are and I manage a large video store....(I get all the trade mags for the industry and hadn't seen anything about this).

Any input would be appreciated....

Thanks

Bo (shogun713)
#17

clarkvalentine

Oct 28, 2005 16:49:06
ARE THEY DOING AN ACTUAL DRAGONLANCE MOVIE??????

No.
#18

brimstone

Oct 31, 2005 10:08:02
ARE THEY DOING AN ACTUAL DRAGONLANCE MOVIE??????

A couple years ago it was officially announced that the rights to do the Dragonlance movie had been optioned out. It was never said who got it, nor have we heard anything official for a long time. (some people claim to have read the script, though)
#19

aliothefool

Nov 01, 2005 9:22:29
I think the option has already expired. There was someone who was shopping it around to studios, but I guess it never worked out.

The good news is, the second D&D movie is on Sci-Fi this week!

That was sarcastic, for anyone who is taking it seriously. The first was bad enough, but for the same story to be continued, and going direct to Sc-Fi? Ugh.
#20

zombiegleemax

Nov 01, 2005 15:09:43
Actually I saw it last month and its better than the first (not much of an endorsement to some, but...). There is a fair amount of D&D references in the flick (Jubbilex, darkmantles) and you actually get to see a cleric turn undead. It isn't really a sequel to the first one, since its set about a century later.

Its watchable. I won't say anymore lest I unexpectedly raise someone's expectations too much.

Oggie
#21

zombiegleemax

Nov 09, 2005 14:32:21
In regards to D&D The Movie 2...did anybody else get reminded of the Kingpriest's speech in Time of the Twins at that part where the main chick had that holy orb near the end? I kept expecting a flaming mountain to fall on them all...

PS: The cleric dude was cool, and they totally gave him the shaft. He should have *MURDERED* that white dragon with that flamestrike...and the wizard blew it up with a lightning bolt?! WTF?!
#22

zombiegleemax

Nov 09, 2005 15:48:42
Don't forget they could regenerate the elf's arm but they couldn't resurrect the cleric. I'm still trying to figure out if those ram-head things were magic missiles or not.

Oggie
#23

zombiegleemax

Nov 10, 2005 10:40:20
Actually, they *DID* resurect the cleric. Look closely at the end. It took me and my friend a couple times to catch it, but he's there. He doesn't say anythign, and nothing is explained as to how it happened. Even the elf's arm thing isn't too crazy...they *DID* take her to the Temple for just that purpose, but they never brought his...ermmm...pieces.
#24

valharic

Nov 10, 2005 11:55:01
I'm still trying to figure out if those ram-head things were magic missiles or not.

Oggie

That was actually the Ring of the Ram magic item.
#25

zombiegleemax

Nov 11, 2005 16:46:26
Actually, they *DID* resurect the cleric. Look closely at the end. It took me and my friend a couple times to catch it, but he's there. He doesn't say anythign, and nothing is explained as to how it happened. Even the elf's arm thing isn't too crazy...they *DID* take her to the Temple for just that purpose, but they never brought his...ermmm...pieces.

Actually, I think that was the badly chewed up thief. At least, he didn't have the tattoos.

Oggie
#26

zombiegleemax

Nov 15, 2005 8:36:12
Nope, it was the Cleric...the Rogue and the Elf are there gardening or somethign stupid like that, and he walks in and they just stop and look at him with a look that says "What mischief have you been getting to, you naughty priest you?" instead of the look they should have given, that says "WTF?! You died and we totally buried you instead of gettign you help and now your back!!! Please don't call on your god to smite us for being classist against clerics!"

On another note...that Barbarian chick had like 50 demons on her, and she was unarmed, and they were tearing out her throat...and yet she somehow makes it through that?! And, then, when she threatens Blue-Mouth Guy (my loving nickname for Damadar), the old dude says, right in front of him, that they can't kill him, he's basically got their balls in a vice...and then *HE* threatens BMG with a knife, and this makes him cave?! Who made this crap?!
#27

the_simple_seeker_ii

Nov 15, 2005 21:47:22
So, it was the priest...
#28

aliothefool

Nov 16, 2005 5:45:32
I finally watched it the other day. Yes, it was better than the first, but that isn't saying a whole lot.

I thought they went a bit too far pointing out the D&D pieces. Why did they keep referring to the guy as "Rogue"? I mean, yeah, we get it, he is a rogue. It was almost like they were trying to teach D&D canon to any non-D&D fan watching it. What was there? Maybe two of them?

I was fairly impressed that they did stick to canon for most of the movie. Then they full-on blew it at the end. A black dragon that breathes fireballs? I get it that it is a god and all, but come on! Besides, wouldn't it have been a cooler effect if it was spewing acid bombs all over people? Like Riverwind at Xak Tsaroth times a thousand!
#29

zombiegleemax

Nov 16, 2005 18:09:51
Actually, I've been thinking on that since I saw it back in Oct, and remembering the condition of the dragon I'm wondering if it's supposed to be a dracolich. It should have used acid anyway, but I guess fire is cooler.

Oggie
#30

aliothefool

Nov 18, 2005 21:56:48
Actually, I've been thinking on that since I saw it back in Oct, and remembering the condition of the dragon I'm wondering if it's supposed to be a dracolich. It should have used acid anyway, but I guess fire is cooler.

Oggie

Yeah, I agree with the "fire is cooler" concept. Again though, I think they were trying to appeal to the non-D&Ders, maybe trying to recruit new fans or something. (Did we really need to be told what the difference between arcane and divine magic is?)

Can't wait for the sequel!
#31

zombiegleemax

Nov 20, 2005 21:26:24
Oh and, don't you love how at the beginning, the main chick very clearly says that no one can use divine magic in whatever-the-crap-their-empire's-called, and yet, there's a cleric in the party. And an entire temple. And, the cleric already knew the way to defeat evil (Faith), but it took the mage to figure it out before anybody else thought it was a good idea?! And the head mage is all "She may really be on to something with this new kind of magic that these priests have been using all along that we've been ignoring because we're classists..."

Divine casters everywhere, unite! We're not just band-aids! We can fight! We can casts destructive and insta-death spells! We can totally murder Undead and Demons of all kinds! Plus, we can buff ourselves like no other! Why must we always exist in the shadow of Wizards! We should band togethor, and show the world just what we can do!
#32

zombiegleemax

Jun 21, 2006 0:18:53
I don't know if this has been posted before but if they ever make the movie then the main theme should be The Mummer's Dance by Loreena Mckennitt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD8qQVRbwjE&search=mummer%27s%20dance

And why don't they make a movie. Just look at LOTR and such.

Orlando Bloom can play Gilthanas.

Aso some good **** here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5jioyv7Gbk&search=dragonlance
#33

redrobe

Jun 21, 2006 7:39:32
She has some way better songs (on the album I own, anyway) than the Mummer's Dance. Besides, a proper DL movie should have an awesome score, nothing with words will do. I just can't get past thinking of the Drew Barrymore "Cinderella" movie Ever After. They used Mummer's Dance in alot of the previews because it was new at the time. I hated that movie.
#34

clarkvalentine

Jun 21, 2006 16:51:41
I don't know if this has been posted before

Yes, it has.

By you.

In this very thread.
#35

orodruin

Jun 22, 2006 4:03:23
Yes, it has.

By you.

In this very thread.

Not to mention in another thread he started a few weeks ago. Using exactly the same words. He also started another thread a while back about Orlando Bloom playing Gilthanas.

I guess he REALLY LIKES Loreena McKennitt and Orlando Bloom...
#36

ranger_reg

Jun 22, 2006 15:21:19
I don't know if this has been posted before but if they ever make the movie then the main theme should be The Mummer's Dance by Loreena Mckennitt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD8qQVRbwjE&search=mummer%27s%20dance

Nah, too Knight's Tale (which is too "MTV').

I say this, even as a fan of Queen music.


And why don't they make a movie. Just look at LOTR and such.

I can counter that by saying "look at D&D movies."

You need someone just as dedicated as Peter Jackson, not someone as flippant as Courtney Solomon. Granted, I believed Courtney uses the best of his filmmaking abilities, but his best wasn't good enough.


Orlando Bloom can play Gilthanas.

Not interested in recycling LOTR actors. Gotta be different, unknown as Orlando was before Fellowship of the Ring.
#37

zombiegleemax

Jun 22, 2006 16:06:07
Recycling actors would be really bad eggs for another epic fantasy series.
#38

zombiegleemax

Jul 03, 2006 14:39:42
The theme song for the Dragonlance movie should be The mummers' dance by Loreena

How about "Soulforged" by Blind Guardian instead?
#39

zombiegleemax

Jul 04, 2006 9:14:49
Seriously the whole epic classical theme tune has been done to death with fantasy film. Dragonlance to me has always screamed heavy metal, hell over the years dragonlance has featured quite prominantly in many heavy metal songs.

Raistlin and The Rose (lake of tears)
The Soul Forged (Blind Guardian)
Legend Of Huma (Dungeon) seriously check this one out, the legend of Huma compacted into song form "my honour is my life" screamed out in a power metal voice makes the hairs stand on end.
Wishmaster (Nightwish)

I could probably go on, i'm not saying the DL sound track should be entirely heavy metal that would be awful, almost flash gorden like, but maybe a mix of heavy metal and classical. For example there are bands like Therion, Rhapsedy and Tristania about that have both metal and orchestral elements, i think this would go well with DL words.
#40

ranger_reg

Jul 05, 2006 0:52:29
Seriously the whole epic classical theme tune has been done to death with fantasy film. Dragonlance to me has always screamed heavy metal, hell over the years dragonlance has featured quite prominantly in many heavy metal songs.

IIRC, Led Zeppelin had a couple of tribute songs to Tolkien's works, but you don't see PJ asking Liv Tyler's dad's band to sing a tune for his adapted film.



Let's stay away from MTV Knight's Tale approach, shall we? I want cultural theme music.
#41

frostdawn

Jul 07, 2006 9:02:50
IIRC, Led Zeppelin had a couple of tribute songs to Tolkien's works, but you don't see PJ asking Liv Tyler's dad's band to sing a tune for his adapted film.



Let's stay away from MTV Knight's Tale approach, shall we? I want cultural theme music.

Thank you, thank you, a thousand times thank you. Knight's Tale was ruined horribly IMHO when not only did they play music like Queen, but had medieval spectators singing lines from the song. That to me, turned what could have been an ok movie into a steaming pile of awful.
#42

cam_banks

Jul 07, 2006 13:51:21
Thank you, thank you, a thousand times thank you. Knight's Tale was ruined horribly IMHO when not only did they play music like Queen, but had medieval spectators singing lines from the song. That to me, turned what could have been an ok movie into a steaming pile of awful.

That was the whole point of the movie. It was supposed to be an anachronistic sporting hero love story. Without all of that, and without Chaucer acting like Heath Ledger's agent and PR guy, it would have been something else.

Cheers,
Cam
#43

bobsutan

Jul 07, 2006 14:22:07
That was the whole point of the movie. It was supposed to be an anachronistic sporting hero love story. Without all of that, and without Chaucer acting like Heath Ledger's agent and PR guy, it would have been something else.

Cheers,
Cam

Agreed. If it wasn't for the elements you just touched on I probably wouldn't have liked it at all. I took it as being in the same fashion as all the contemporary stuff that was in Shrek.
#44

bobsutan

Jul 07, 2006 14:28:58
Seriously the whole epic classical theme tune has been done to death with fantasy film. Dragonlance to me has always screamed heavy metal, hell over the years dragonlance has featured quite prominantly in many heavy metal songs.

Raistlin and The Rose (lake of tears)
The Soul Forged (Blind Guardian)
Legend Of Huma (Dungeon) seriously check this one out, the legend of Huma compacted into song form "my honour is my life" screamed out in a power metal voice makes the hairs stand on end.
Wishmaster (Nightwish)

I could probably go on, i'm not saying the DL sound track should be entirely heavy metal that would be awful, almost flash gorden like, but maybe a mix of heavy metal and classical. For example there are bands like Therion, Rhapsedy and Tristania about that have both metal and orchestral elements, i think this would go well with DL words.

Sweet! I'm gonna look those songs up when I get to home. Sounds interesting, especially the Huma song.
#45

ranger_reg

Jul 07, 2006 15:59:58
Thank you, thank you, a thousand times thank you. Knight's Tale was ruined horribly IMHO when not only did they play music like Queen, but had medieval spectators singing lines from the song. That to me, turned what could have been an ok movie into a steaming pile of awful.

Personally, Knight's Tale wasn't THAT bad. I just don't want to apply the same treatment for that film unto Dragonlance.

If Hollywood wants to do an MTV-style rock-n-roll fantasy film, go ahead. Just don't label it "Dragonlance."
#46

frostdawn

Jul 13, 2006 16:52:32
I think what really bothered me about Knight's Tale was the whole audience stomping their feet and singing along to music like Queen. THAT seemed so far out of place, I don't feel they could have gone any further with it without bringing in a spaceship and having an alien put on a suit of armor and challenge people in the tournament. It just seemed so out of place that it really turned me off to the movie and ruined what otherwise would have been a better movie IMHO.

I just don't see heavy metal being a style of music easily applied to a fantasy setting. I expect more instrumental music. I wouldn't expect to hear rap music or techno watching a western, or hearing Enya lilting in the background of biker gang movie featuring a bunch of gearheads chugging brews. I just think certain types of music don't fit certain genres of film. This was epitomized in Knight's Tale.
#47

zombiegleemax

Jul 14, 2006 17:56:46
I think the biggest problem with Knight's Tale was the attempt to make it feel like a modern sports movie. While it may have helped some figure out just how important tournaments were to the local populace, it is just plain grating.

Then again, we use a lot of those songs as background music for our games, so I'm a little leery to cast the first stone.

Oggie
#48

gawain_viii

Jul 15, 2006 12:06:17
Two Words: Basil Poledouris
That is all.
#49

ranger_reg

Jul 15, 2006 14:03:01
Then again, we use a lot of those songs as background music for our games, so I'm a little leery to cast the first stone.

Meh. Just because some of us use modern music for our game session -- even to the point of each PC having a theme music/song (can you say WWE?) -- I just don't think it should apply to Dragonlance film.

If it's an Urban Arcana film (a d20 Modern setting), then it's fair game.
#50

cat_god

Aug 11, 2006 15:47:27
I actually liked the second D&D movies, despite the problems. The first one I remember seeing, and enjoying when I was younger. Then, not too long ago, I decided to buy it.
Ouch.

But I think that just, soft background music would be nice. Perhaps a song like Melvaius suggested over the credits...

By the way, the Legend of Huma song sound ineresting.
#51

zombiegleemax

Aug 11, 2006 16:59:18
i once wrote the book soulforge as a 100-line poem with perfect rhyme and rhythm. then my laptop got stolen. i was ******! it was really good and i was really proud of it, too. could've made a good bard-song sort of thing.
#52

zombiegleemax

Aug 11, 2006 17:01:00
what if we took the lyrics to these rock songs and put them to more medevil instrumentals? i found the lyrics for huma before i found the music and that's how i heard it.
#53

ranger_reg

Aug 11, 2006 18:46:09
I think the biggest problem with Knight's Tale was the attempt to make it feel like a modern sports movie. While it may have helped some figure out just how important tournaments were to the local populace, it is just plain grating.

Then again, we use a lot of those songs as background music for our games, so I'm a little leery to cast the first stone.

I'm not. Courtney Solomon is the reason why I don't like a gamer to make D&D films. :P

You can do whatever you want in your own game (gawd knows, I played "Princes of the Universe" and "Who Wants to Live Forever" by Queen so many times). I just want a serious D&D film that have a specific theme, be it Dragonlance or Greyhawk, not some producer/director/writer's own homebrewed campaign that is less known to the gaming community.

And by serious, I want orchestral music that is much closer to the medieval times than say, an electric midi keyboards and guitars.
#54

zombiegleemax

Aug 14, 2006 19:42:42
Agreed.

Probably make the soundtrack a shoe-in at the Oscars for Best Original Score. :D

Oggie
#55

werewolffan98

Aug 24, 2006 20:46:33
"Pastime with good company" By Henry VIII(of course all we know is that the king could have taken the song from someone else and claimed that he wrote it.), Gregorian Chants or any music from the Elizabethan era.
#56

ramenth

Aug 25, 2006 0:35:21
How is dragonlance metal? I dont get it.
#57

werewolffan98

Aug 25, 2006 0:45:34
How is dragonlance metal? I dont get it.

I don't get it either. Because it has Knights and stuff which would make it Medieval or Renaissance, and i believe something like bagpipes,penny whistle,or a lute, or Renaissance Faire music would be more appropriate when making music about DragonLance, but that's just me.
#58

vgeisz_dup

Sep 22, 2006 20:26:15
OK there is OFICIALLY a Dragonlance movie in production right now. It will be animated. Kieffer Sutherland is doing the voice of Raistlin. I got the info directly from the horses mouth so to say as I met Margret Weiss at Dragon con earlier this month.
I cant wait
Vern
#59

ranger_reg

Sep 23, 2006 20:15:01
OK there is OFICIALLY a Dragonlance movie in production right now. It will be animated. Kieffer Sutherland is doing the voice of Raistlin. I got the info directly from the horses mouth so to say as I met Margret Weiss at Dragon con earlier this month.
I cant wait
Vern

Old news to my ears. I've already expressed my opinion in other messageboards (like EN World) though I promised to keep an open mind.
#60

orodruin

Sep 24, 2006 8:17:04
Old news to my ears. I've already expressed my opinion in other messageboards (like EN World) though I promised to keep an open mind.

I'd say it's pretty much old news to most regulars on this board. It's been discussed here as far back as June, shortly after Lucy Lawless let the cat out of the bag, iirc.
#61

ranger_reg

Sep 26, 2006 2:10:15
I'd say it's pretty much old news to most regulars on this board. It's been discussed here as far back as June, shortly after Lucy Lawless let the cat out of the bag, iirc.

The Wizards' boards? Yes. Oddly enough the discussion posted on another forum and not this one.