RE: Amber and Iron Thread. An apology.

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#1

aliothefool

Oct 21, 2005 5:40:22
I posted this message in the DL Forums thread about the same topic. I would like to extend the same apology here.

Okay, now that I have had a decent night's sleep to calm down and act rationally once again, let me respond, hopefully for the last time.

Let me begin by saying I am sorry to anyone who feels I personally offended them. I never meant to attack anyone on the boards directly, and I don't think I actually did, but just in case, I apologize.

I hate to bring real world issues onto an anonymous board like this, but yesterday was an especially bad day for me. My wife and I found out she is miscarrying our third child. We had been very excited about the prenancy until the sonogram yesterday. Granted, it is not an excuse for overbearing behavior, but like I said, it was a bad day.

Anyway, back to the topic. Let me repeat that at no time did I say you guys shouldn't get your hardcover. I was totally on your side, since it is only right that your collection be complete.

As far having to wait any length of time, you cannopt compare the length of time it took for you to get your hardcover edition, starting from the time you got your first one. You have to remember that I had to walk past the hardcover in Barnes & Noble for months and wonder what sort of goodies were packed inside. So the time to wait is negligable.

As it stands, almost all of the hardcover fans look at the book as a collector's item. Nothing wrong with that at all. However, I am just looking for the continuation of yet another great MW story. I wouldn't care what format it was in, except that I cannot read hadcovers on a Manhattan-bound packed train in the morning. It isn't even about the cost of the book for me, it is simply convenience of the packaging.

Going back to the lie issue. As I have said yesterday, perhaps my wording was a bit rash. The case I was trying to make was that you were never actually promised a harcover edition. It was an implied assurance that since you spent your hard earned cash on a hardcover first book, you should rightly receive the same for the entire collection. On the other hand, we were explicitly told that the softcover would be released in February.

From my POV, my arguments are no different than the original ones about the hardcover. I understand that my anger may have clouded the argument I tried to present, but all the same, I still believe my stance has value. You felt slighted since you purchased the HC already, and it appeared they might not have done the same throughout. However, as has been stated already, MW did say it was likely you would receive the hardbound edition in the future. I don't think there were ever any plans to not release the HC, and I said that from day one. By the same token, it was also said by MW that we would receive the paperback in February, which is an explicit promise. Therein lies the difference to me.

Now don't get me wrong, I am not referring to MW as a liar. (I would like to cut that argument down before it starts ;) ) Rather, I agree that this was more of a business decision, by powers beyond her control.

If I could be given the chance to restate my argument here, what I should have stated was that I feel it would have been the best resolution to simply guarantee the hardcover edition to the public at a later date. Chances are, the large majority of hardcover lovers would have read the paperback version somehow, and later bought the hardbound to continue their collection properly. The opposite does not work though, or at least, not for me (again, I have tried not to represent anyone else's feelings but my own, since I do not want to be seen as a "voice of the people" type who misrepresents the feelings of others.)

Again, I would like to apologize if I made comments that anyone here feels was directed at them. Even at the height of my anger yesterday, I tried to go out of my way to not directly respond to what I felt were direct attacks at me. Those verbal barbs did serve to fuel my fire, and only made me post more irrationally to try to make my point clear.

I do appreciate those who stated that they don't hate me, or refuse to sling names at me. I should have remembered one of the golden rules in this age of email/message boards/IMs, etc. You should never type when you are angry. If you do, you should always wait until you calm down and rewrite it rationally. Had I done that, I am sure this would have been a much more cordial discussion, rather than a mudslinging thread.

Thanks to anyone who is still listening at this point. Again, I hope I haven't offended any of you. If you felt I have, please accept my sincerest apologies for that. This is a great group of people, and I have truly enjoyed the discussions I have had on this board, discounting this one alone.

Have a wonderful day all!
#2

Dragonhelm

Oct 21, 2005 9:14:44
I hate to bring real world issues onto an anonymous board like this, but yesterday was an especially bad day for me. My wife and I found out she is miscarrying our third child. We had been very excited about the prenancy until the sonogram yesterday. Granted, it is not an excuse for overbearing behavior, but like I said, it was a bad day.

I am so sorry to hear that. My wife had a miscarriage our first time, so I know just how painful that can be. We later were blessed with two boys.

Don't give up!



Thanks to anyone who is still listening at this point. Again, I hope I haven't offended any of you. If you felt I have, please accept my sincerest apologies for that. This is a great group of people, and I have truly enjoyed the discussions I have had on this board, discounting this one alone.

Have a wonderful day all!

I just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to write this. It's hard to be cordial at times after you've had an extremely bad day like that.

With this particular situation, it's a bit of a no-win. Either hardback fans or paperback fans will experience some delay, and both sides of the debate have good cause to have felt slighted by how events were turning out. And if any of you are like me, then patience is by no means a virtue. ;)

So I think we can all understand and respect your point of view.


So stay cool, and thanks for taking the time to write. I wish you and your wife the best of luck. Just keep smiling, and things will get better.
#3

zombiegleemax

Oct 21, 2005 10:35:47
I am so very sorry to hear about your loss.
May your future days be bright and happy,

Jennifer-
www.jennifer-meyer.com
#4

rath_the_ranger

Oct 21, 2005 16:38:05
I do appreciate those who stated that they don't hate me, or refuse to sling names at me.

FYI, I posted in reply to your comments in the other thread, but wanted to post here too...

Just so you know, I wasn't actually calling you a "Fool", I was just making a comment based upon your screen name and some of the "fly off the handle" comments you seemed to have made. Please don't think I was slinging a disparaging remark at you, it was really just made in jest.

I too am saddened to hear of your loss, it's not an easy thing to have to suffer through. As the saying goes, God doesn't give you any more than he thinks you can handle. Hopefully you will come out of this stronger than when your journey began.
#5

zombiegleemax

Oct 21, 2005 17:37:20
I know how it sucks, Alio. My niece was miscarried (just after Mother's Day-irony), and now my brother and sister-in-law are expecting again (due the same day as above (??)). Just hang in there, and remember to give your wife the support she needs.

Oggie
#6

aliothefool

Oct 21, 2005 18:00:26
Thanks for all of the sympathy all. It's wonderful to have this kind of support from people you have never even met.

DH, thanks for sharing your experience with me. It means a lot. I am actually blessed enough to already have two wonderful boys. As far as posting this, it was only right. I was out of line, and that always calls for a proper apology. You are right on with the comment that this is a no-win. Somebody has to lose for someone to get what they feel is a fair resolution. At least we are all getting our book at some point for sure! And yes, I am just like you, patience is far from a virtue. Thanks for the well-wishes man!

Jennifer, thank you very much for your sympathy. BTW: I looked at your site. Your art is fantastic!

Thanks a bunch Rath. Don't sweat it. Belive me, the comments in the DL Forums were much worse than the one you made. Glad we smoothed things out! Thanks for the sympathy. God is definitely giving me just as much as I can handle these days it seems. But I am keeping my chin up.

OGAM, thanks for sharing with me. May God bless and watch over the expected child.

Again, thanks all. I hope you can all forgive this raging fool for having a lapse in better judgement. Be well!