1. Iuz wins the Greyhawk Wars and holds sway over the Flanaess.
2. The cult of Tharizdun's hard work finally pays off as a cleric makes a pinprick hole into his demiplane of imprisonment, slowly releasing the taint of the Far Realm and Tharizdun himself on Oerth.
3. An individual, who is in possession of the Hand and Eye of Vecna and the Sword of Kas, now has the power of a demigod and the arcane might of an archmage and believes she is nothing less than the "daughter of Vecna" as she lays waste to entire communities and strengthens her army with their dead.
I agree with you.. but I wouldn't express it quite so.. ah.. vocally ;)
Is the book worth the 29.95?
That's entirely subjective. Personally, I think so. But if you're not sure, wait until you have the opportunity to sit down and look through it. And that doesn't mean flip through a few pages and look at a PrC or a feat or two. The best content is in the earlier chapters. But again, that's just my opinion.
PS - Alternatively, you might want to wait until it's available on Amazon.
If you want more information, check out the future release forums. There are a lot of posters talking about it there, including me.
It might be interesting to come up with more examples. Such as Ivid, rather than Iuz, ruling the Flanaess.
Be assured, my friend, that Ivid, although a bit quiet lately, still rules the Flanaess.
That's entirely subjective. Personally, I think so. But if you're not sure, wait until you have the opportunity to sit down and look through it. And that doesn't mean flip through a few pages and look at a PrC or a feat or two. The best content is in the earlier chapters. But again, that's just my opinion.
Could you compare it to other recent WotC products you did or did not like?
How's it compare to Heroes of the Battlefield?
Be assured, my friend, that Ivid, although a bit quiet lately, still rules the Flanaess.
Aha! Sorry for doubting. ;)
Could you compare it to other recent WotC products you did or did not like?
How's it compare to Heroes of the Battlefield?
I like it more than Heroes of Battle for two reasons.
1. It's less "mechanical"
2. I like elements of horror in D&D more than I like elements of war
this is not to say I disliked Heroes of Battle. I own that book as well and will be using it heavily when my adventuring party ventures into Old Almor and participates in a short war against Ahlissa.
I would liken HoH to the feeling I got with the BoVD, but I think this is more in line with what I was hoping to get from the BoVD when I got it (I like the BoVD, too). HoH is less about evil and more about actual horror.
As a DM, it's my favorite book so far. My favorite part was the first few chapters that talk about brining in the elements of horror into D&D. The character options are great. If I could control my players' PCs, I'd make them choose some of these classes or PrCs because they seem so much fun to play (not to be mistaken for powergaming). The monsters are pretty cool; I'll definitely be using the Bane Wright.
As a player it would definitely be a lot of fun to use, but a DM should facilitate that sort of character by using elements from this book.
If you tell me what you're looking for in this book, I'd be more than happy to do my best to convey whether it's what you're looking for or not.
PS - I think current owners of this book forget to mention the Dreamscapes section, which is pretty cool! There are spells, feats, and a new domain that relate to manipulating and interpreting dreamscapes and dreams. This is another feature that I like as it will be used in my current Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil with Tharizdun permeating the dreams of some of the PCs.
Aha! Sorry for doubting. ;)
I pardon you. ;)Originally posted by Mortepierre
Fharlang, don't get me wrong but that sig. of yours is only going to get us more posts of the "Why the **** do you guys hate Eberron so much?!?" kind.
The Sig. is a reproduction of an Eberron players just reversed.
Fharlang, don't get me wrong but that sig. of yours is only going to get us more posts of the "Why the **** do you guys hate Eberron so much?!?" kind.
I agree with you.. but I wouldn't express it quite so.. ah.. vocally ;)
I'll one up you, and proclaim I'm a fan of both. :D
Can someone tell me why in this thread my sig is no longer showing?
Can someone tell me why in this thread my sig is no longer showing?
By default, it only displays in your first post in each thread. You can change your defaults in "My Account" so that you, personally, can look at peoples' sigs every time they post, but I personally like the feature so I'll only see yours once.
The Sig. is a reproduction of an Eberron players just reversed.
If a moron jumped off a cliff to make a point, would you follow suit just to disprove him?
Let's not stoop down to their level, folks, please...
What other types of Greyhawk campaign ideas can we come up with? I'm planning on using this in my current Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil adventure and later when the heroes journey through Almor and Chathold.
Some accept that she left a large black orb over Istvin but just imagine what she could have done to the Flanaess if she wasn't defeated.
I'd always imagined the black bubble expanding over the entire globe, blotting out the sun, and allowing the drow to invade the surface. A pretty gloomy scenario that would probably qualify for a horror campaign, as outlined in the HoH book.
Failure to defeat Acererak in Return to the Tomb of Horrors would result in a world overrun by undeads of all kinds. Not exactly a happy place but certainly one that could benefit from brave heroes (especially from the Church of Pelor).
Losing the final battle in the Rod of Seven Parts (boxed set) would be equally grim. The Queen of Chaos would regain her champion and the two of them would probably resume the great war against the forces of Law. Iuz could benefit from it for a while but, in the end, the Flanaess would just become another battleground for the Blood War.
And then there is always the remote possibility that someone could manage to get hold of Hunger, the dreadful evil sword hidden in the Adri Forest. No doubt, such a person would soon find herself at the head of an army that would ravage the Flanaess.
allowing the drow to invade the surface.
A slight aside. How many drow does Lolth have in her service? (IIRC, not all drow on Oerth worship Lolth, unlike what I understand to be the case in the Realms.) Would there be enough for an invasion of the whole surface?
I still think it's a fun idea, it's just a thought.
In the event that Loth did have dominion over the surface, those drow outcasts would most likely seek forgiveness or face Lolth's wrath directly.
A slight aside. How many drow does Lolth have in her service? (IIRC, not all drow on Oerth worship Lolth, unlike what I understand to be the case in the Realms.) Would there be enough for an invasion of the whole surface?
It's not clear how many drow populate the underdark. Erelhei-Cinlu is a metropolis sized city if I recall, so that's around ~50,000.
I'd assume the drow would be more the overlords, commanding the giant and savage humanoid races. Demons would be used to crush the high level types.
It's also a lot easier to obtain a surrender from a country when Lolth herself can just go to the capitol and have a 'talk' with the ruler.
To be precise, I ruled that Oerth had once two suns (as hinted in the Greyspace SJ accessory). Illithids managed to extinguish one looooong ago. At the time, there were two sun gods (twins, in fact). One was Pelor. When the second sun went POOF!, his twin went from life-giving to life-hating and became.. Nerull.
It's not clear how many drow populate the underdark. Erelhei-Cinlu is a metropolis sized city if I recall, so that's around ~50,000.
In Fred Weinings article, "The Vault of the Drow", Dragon 298 pg.74, he lists Erelhei-Cinlu as a metropolis and lists the population at 27,000 (drow 40%, troglodytes 15%, bugbears 12%, others (surface dwellers and undead) 10%, mind flayers 4%, yugoloths 4%, kuo-toa 3%, demons 3%, xvarts 2%, deep gnomes 1%, gith races 1%). Quite a mishmash of the races with drow getting a clear majority and many of the other races as slaves or servants.
Look at Eclavdra's goals in the same article (and the Shadows over Istivin plot from aforementioned Dungeon) and you come up with many ways to use HoH with her ambitions and the surface world.