Note this is only a playtest version, it does not have a full converted list of spells or psionic powers yet. I am wanting to make sure the system works as expected prior to converting the rest. This is also only the Darksun version of these rules, not the full alternate PHB version.
There are also features which will be added after playtest of the core rules as well..... but I am looking for people to assist on this playtest.
Hello all.... my long awaited d20 modern system of Darksun is almost to the playtest phase. So I am going to need volunteers for playtesting the new rules I have built up. I have a limited playtest version just about done and should be sending copies to those who wish to playtest it this coming weekend. (the first weekend of december)
Note this is only a playtest version, it does not have a full converted list of spells or psionic powers yet. I am wanting to make sure the system works as expected prior to converting the rest. This is also only the Darksun version of these rules, not the full alternate PHB version.
There are also features which will be added after playtest of the core rules as well..... but I am looking for people to assist on this playtest.
Yeah, sign me up yo.
BTW the system will include my alterations to the allegiance system, the occupations, the class system of the 6 basic classes, the racial class for each player character race, several advanced classes (including sorcerer, templar, druid, elemental cleric, bard and several others), the spellcasting systems for both learned (including ritual casting) and granted magic, my rewrite of the psionics system (a balanced translated version of psionics similiar in appearance to the 2ed psionics), example characters for NPCs and monsters. Basically everything you need for the base game, save a knowledge of Athas and players. :P
What is not included is my mutation rules (note there are some major changes in this from the versions I have shown on here in the past), innate type of magic (this includes those that are linked to the grey and the black), most of my epic rules (sorry my version of dragons and such are not included, though my ritual casting is a preview of some changes to the epic rules), and a few other cute things (such as seeds for ritual and epic spellcasting, I am removing the need for ad hoc factors for the most part)..... they are scheduled for the second playtest (though they are already complete) as they would have to change significantly if I need to change certain core aspects.
I look forward to peoples responses to the rules and how they work in games.
:D
the only requirement I have is this.... I want feedback :P
the more people who want to review it and playtest it the better, I will be sending out the PDF to all who want it this coming weekend.....
the only requirement I have is this.... I want feedback :P
the idea is intriguing, hope you can share your creations with me also!
Matt "Bofdar" McDonough
I am just double checking things on the races as we type, then double checking the other sections this week..... then out it goes for the first version playtest.
All people who playtest, and give feedback will of course get playtest credit in the final version of the work. (after all if you test it, you deserve acknowledgement)
I too dont have the option of playtesting it, but I would love to look it over as well and support the feedback process.
This is actually more than I was intending in the first document and we are looking at hundreds of pages of text.... so dont think this is a short document.
please?
[email]Dregonflyus@hotmail.com[/email]
Seker,
please?
[email]Dregonflyus@hotmail.com[/email]
Nobody as it friend, patience !
let me know what you find in it.... any problems or questions.
I've recived all the material today, my first impression is
why thank you
the scary part is that what I sent out is only about a fourth of the work....... I ended up cutting it down so much as no one wants to print out 500+ pages on just a playtest..... plus some of the other stuff just confuses the situations untill after we verify the main system works (ie epic system, spell and item creation, mutational rules, etc....) and other stuff just takes too much room..... (ie list of all the powers and spells) that is the reason for the second document...... a quick conversion guide.... converting creatures is easy but if anyone needs quick rules I can provided them
I have sent the pdf files to all the playtesters who requested it now. Sorry it took so long, I had to make it a bit smaller..... from 500+ pages down to under 120 pages in 2 pdf files.
let me know what you find in it.... any problems or questions.
Hum well...
I got nothing so far in my mailbox First look was pleasing... I'll come back with further feedback after the holidays.
I'll check it out soonly.
:bounce:
Hum well...
I resent the files to you again via the email address provided in the wizards system..... if you were needing it to a different email address you will have to let em know.
I look forward to any feedback or questions on it.
I do have a question though- where are the other classes- you have sorcerer, bard, psionisict, druid, and templar but none of the other kind of 'stock; classes- just wondering. I can see that these classes are more like PrC's in how they are aquired but I would have thought that having a professional fighter class would be a given.
I really have no experience with the d20 mod system so I may be just silly for this question but I am just wondering.
I am sure I will have more later.
When it comes to Half-elf and Mul, can they take levels in their respective parent's racial class? I.E. Can a mul take levels in either human or dwarf racial classes?
I do have a question though- where are the other classes- you have sorcerer, bard, psionisict, druid, and templar but none of the other kind of 'stock; classes- just wondering. I can see that these classes are more like PrC's in how they are aquired but I would have thought that having a professional fighter class would be a given.
Actually they are on page 31. They are called Strong, Fast, Tough, etc.
Actually they are on page 31. They are called Strong, Fast, Tough, etc.
I seen those, but I was just wondering if they were the same- Like I said I have zero experience with the d20 modern system.
I seen those, but I was just wondering if they were the same- Like I said I have zero experience with the d20 modern system.
The others are Advanced Classes, which are more or less PrCs.
There are just 6 basic classes. One for each attribute stat.
That's the basic setup for d20 Modern/Grim Tales.
on the half elves and muls, and half giants..... look in the racial stats section.... you will see that they are considered to be members of both parent races for classes, feats, etc....
this means a half elf could take both the human and elf racial classes..... and qualify for all elf or human only feats.
the system gives much more leeway on character design as there is NO penalty for multiclassing, in fact it is almost required for some advanced and prestige classes (many of which I did not include in the playtest..... just the basic stuff for this one.)
I can't play test it, but I am surely interested, and could provide non-playtest feedback
I dunno, just seems like there should be more to it. I also didn't realize that metamagic was completely out as well.
So far the rest looks good. Loving the racial classes and how you were able to get all the races at an LA of +0.
My only issue so far is the simplicity of the magic system, but I think that's a standard d20 Modern/Grim Tales qualm I have.
I dunno, just seems like there should be more to it. I also didn't realize that metamagic was completely out as well.
So far the rest looks good. Loving the racial classes and how you were able to get all the races at an LA of +0.
actually the magic system in that is not the magic system from modern..... that is what I built up.
and it is only in the playtest version it is simple..... as the magic and psionic systems combine in prestige classes (including advanced beings) in very interesting ways..... and there is a third type of magic (innate) which is not in the playtest version.
I am just wanting to test the basics before I go into the massively complex side.
and the reason I took metamagic out is for the nature of learned/granted magic.... it is rote magic.... (also I have a full spell creation system, so sorcerers can actually make the equivelent of metamagicced versions of the spells) it takes combining it with a disciplined mind (ie a psionicist) to modify magic on the fly. (and then it uses the augmentation rules from psionics to modify spells on the fly..... but again that is in the combining rules which I wanted to wait untill after we make sure the base system is right before I bring in.)
keep up the questions
and there is a third type of magic (innate) which is not in the playtest version.
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and the reason I took metamagic out is for the nature of learned/granted magic.... it is rote magic.... (also I have a full spell creation system, so sorcerers can actually make the equivelent of metamagicced versions of the spells) it takes combining it with a disciplined mind (ie a psionicist) to modify magic on the fly. (and then it uses the augmentation rules from psionics to modify spells on the fly..... but again that is in the combining rules which I wanted to wait untill after we make sure the base system is right before I bring in.)
Ok, makes sense to keep this out then.
Definately can't wait to see this then as this will ultimately decide which system I choose until I have the time to work in the ones I really want to use.
Anyways, good job so far on the basics. I don't see many issues with them so far. But again, I can't playtest at the moment, so hopefully others can and help you clean this up some if nedded.
Ok, makes sense to keep this out then.
Definately can't wait to see this then as this will ultimately decide which system I choose until I have the time to work in the ones I really want to use.
Anyways, good job so far on the basics. I don't see many issues with them so far. But again, I can't playtest at the moment, so hopefully others can and help you clean this up some if nedded.
hey even if you can go through and give me you opinion of the system would be very helpful.
the point I was working towards is an elegant system for the rpg that only is as complex as the group is willing to put into it..... so the mutational PrC's for dragon and avangion have two ways to complete them.... the fast risky way (ie casting spells to advance it.) and the slower method of leveling (though the major mutations/metamorphosis require significant expinditures to get their effects.... so it is actully possible to advance in the PrC without metamorphosing further)