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Why Toede!?!?

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#1
zombiegleemax
Nov 27, 2005 20:30:28 Why Toede is chosen to be the Withe Dragon Highlord?

k, thats all...

Burger
#2
cam_banks
Nov 27, 2005 20:57:32
Why Toede is chosen to be the Withe Dragon Highlord?

Toede is an example of somebody getting to incredibly important positions of influence through sheer luck, willpower, and being in the right place and the right time.

Cheers,
Cam
#3
zombiegleemax
Nov 28, 2005 0:03:48 Yeah, even thought he's such a loser that even the gods didn't want him after he died. Still can't figure out why Floatsam wanted him? Are there a few weirdos there?
#4
zombiegleemax
Nov 28, 2005 7:42:11 Toede's autobiography in War of the Lance is one of my favorite things written in the English language.

Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
#5
talinthas
Nov 28, 2005 8:22:47 Toede is the single greatest character in the entire saga. He was white highlord simply because he chose to allow others to reach higher positions out of the kindness of his heart.
#6
zombiegleemax
Nov 28, 2005 9:01:02 I love Lord Toede. He's the coolest Dragonlance character in the universe. I loved the book Lord Toede, I love his involvement in Spectre of Sorrows, and I really hop ehtey write another book about Toede. I'll be very disapointed if they don't, as a matter of fact.
#7
zombiegleemax
Nov 30, 2005 7:13:23 For me Toede is, as any other hobgoblin, something to strike with a sword. Toede is just a loser in the right place, as was already said here. He doesn't have any charisma (and I am not talking about his character sheet) and nothing in special. But it's just my opinion.

For me, the best character in the dragonlance stories are Tas. That kender is really amazing.
#8
zombiegleemax
Nov 30, 2005 11:42:27 I cant see anything special about Taz. He is just another kender (im talking about personality and style, nothing to do with the great things that he did, like killing gods and time traveling)...

But anyway, i dont know what im going to do with the highlord replacement (Feal-Thas just died, in my game, and this game is with history a little bit different)...

k, thats all...

Burger
#9
zombiegleemax
Dec 01, 2005 14:46:50 Two words-palace coup. Have his underlings fight it out for the position in a winner-takes-all last-one-standing kind of thing. Evil turns on itself and all that.

Alternately, have the dragon take over. Snack time for those who choose to disagree. :D

Oggie
#10
zombiegleemax
Dec 01, 2005 16:25:18 The thing is: this is an evil game, and no player realized that they can take the position (they are around lvl 10 now, and they are in pretty good standing before the Emperor)...

And im not going to tell them that...

k, thats all...

Burger
#11
zombiegleemax
Dec 01, 2005 19:32:44
For me Toede is, as any other hobgoblin, something to strike with a sword. Toede is just a loser in the right place, as was already said here. He doesn't have any charisma (and I am not talking about his character sheet) and nothing in special. But it's just my opinion.

For me, the best character in the dragonlance stories are Tas. That kender is really amazing.

TAS ROCKS! :D
#12
zombiegleemax
Dec 02, 2005 6:07:46 First: being the White-Dragon Highlord is not exactly a grear thing. You will be in locked in Icewall, commanding a bunch of dragons not better than dogs. White dragons are weak, stupid and not worthy of respect. So, having Toede as his Highlord, probally don`t upset them.

Second: maybe you can use another NPC to give your PCs the idea of becoming a Dragon Highlord. You will have a good material for roleplay, once they will have to decide which of them should be the Highlord, and that they might start to think about why this NPC wants one of them as the Highlord.

Evil is about being selfish. If they just have glory and success without having to worry about being stabbed on their back, so they are not that evil.
#13
zombiegleemax
Dec 02, 2005 6:51:37 Couldnt agree with you more, lot, except for one thing: yes, the white wing is the least respected and less important, but they still a dragon army. White dragons are dogs? Compared to what? Red Great Wyrms? - Then, you would have a point... But they are still dragons, even if they are the weaker ones.

The white dragon highlord is locked in icewall only because he wants too. Feal-Thas forged and aliance with Stormogre in Southern Ergoth just to advance his army and have his way with the Silvanesti. But still: he would be expanding his forces through a little part of Ansalon besides the cold lands of the south. Yes, the White Wing is pretty small, but you still a Dragon Highlord. You still get your seat in the Temple of Neraka, you still get to ride dragons, and have the minotaurs and thanoi at your heels. You become a something more than just an officer in the hands of the army. You become one of the leaders (again, a least important one, but stilll a leader).

And about the evil thing: you are completely right. Evil is about beeing selfish, its about achieving power, domination over the weak (just as the Dark Queen taught us). And thats exactly why they should bother with the position as Dragon Highlord: influence and power.

k, thats all...

Burger

ps: I will not force them into the position... if they want to get it, good for them. If not, the game will continue and some other guy will have the title. They group needs to think some stuff on their own...
#14
zombiegleemax
Dec 02, 2005 7:04:22 that they should ddo something for themselves. But I think they should be punished for being lazy thinkers, if they don't try to become the Highlord. You should put an NPC they hate in this position. Hehehe.

About the white dragons... well... I am pretty used to play as a fighter, and I have very little respect for the white dragons.
#15
sluggo
Dec 19, 2005 21:55:28 I believe its mentioned that Toede was picked because they needed to find a highlord quickly and since he'd be basically ruling the Kender even he would be able to do it. He was there, and at least able to surpress the Kender.
#16
zombiegleemax
Dec 20, 2005 12:32:05 Toede couldn`t even keep control over his mount, how could he keep control over an army of kenders? (Well... why should anybody wants to be near an army of kenders?)

The kenders would probally surrender. All of them. And the stupid Toede would only see the terrible mistake of take them all as prisioners after they have been all taken to the prison. Now imagine some place like Pax Tarkhas full of kenders. They would become close friends of the gooly dwarves.

Nobody would never forget Toede after this.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Nov 27, 2005 20:30:28	Why Toede is chosen to be the Withe Dragon Highlord? k, thats all... Burger
#2 cam_banks Nov 27, 2005 20:57:32	Why Toede is chosen to be the Withe Dragon Highlord? Toede is an example of somebody getting to incredibly important positions of influence through sheer luck, willpower, and being in the right place and the right time. Cheers, Cam
#3 zombiegleemax Nov 28, 2005 0:03:48	Yeah, even thought he's such a loser that even the gods didn't want him after he died. Still can't figure out why Floatsam wanted him? Are there a few weirdos there?
#4 zombiegleemax Nov 28, 2005 7:42:11	Toede's autobiography in War of the Lance is one of my favorite things written in the English language. Jamie Chambers Sovereign Press, Inc.
#5 talinthas Nov 28, 2005 8:22:47	Toede is the single greatest character in the entire saga. He was white highlord simply because he chose to allow others to reach higher positions out of the kindness of his heart.
#6 zombiegleemax Nov 28, 2005 9:01:02	I love Lord Toede. He's the coolest Dragonlance character in the universe. I loved the book Lord Toede, I love his involvement in Spectre of Sorrows, and I really hop ehtey write another book about Toede. I'll be very disapointed if they don't, as a matter of fact.
#7 zombiegleemax Nov 30, 2005 7:13:23	For me Toede is, as any other hobgoblin, something to strike with a sword. Toede is just a loser in the right place, as was already said here. He doesn't have any charisma (and I am not talking about his character sheet) and nothing in special. But it's just my opinion. For me, the best character in the dragonlance stories are Tas. That kender is really amazing.
#8 zombiegleemax Nov 30, 2005 11:42:27	I cant see anything special about Taz. He is just another kender (im talking about personality and style, nothing to do with the great things that he did, like killing gods and time traveling)... But anyway, i dont know what im going to do with the highlord replacement (Feal-Thas just died, in my game, and this game is with history a little bit different)... k, thats all... Burger
#9 zombiegleemax Dec 01, 2005 14:46:50	Two words-palace coup. Have his underlings fight it out for the position in a winner-takes-all last-one-standing kind of thing. Evil turns on itself and all that. Alternately, have the dragon take over. Snack time for those who choose to disagree. :D Oggie
#10 zombiegleemax Dec 01, 2005 16:25:18	The thing is: this is an evil game, and no player realized that they can take the position (they are around lvl 10 now, and they are in pretty good standing before the Emperor)... And im not going to tell them that... k, thats all... Burger
#11 zombiegleemax Dec 01, 2005 19:32:44	For me Toede is, as any other hobgoblin, something to strike with a sword. Toede is just a loser in the right place, as was already said here. He doesn't have any charisma (and I am not talking about his character sheet) and nothing in special. But it's just my opinion. For me, the best character in the dragonlance stories are Tas. That kender is really amazing. TAS ROCKS! :D
#12 zombiegleemax Dec 02, 2005 6:07:46	First: being the White-Dragon Highlord is not exactly a grear thing. You will be in locked in Icewall, commanding a bunch of dragons not better than dogs. White dragons are weak, stupid and not worthy of respect. So, having Toede as his Highlord, probally don`t upset them. Second: maybe you can use another NPC to give your PCs the idea of becoming a Dragon Highlord. You will have a good material for roleplay, once they will have to decide which of them should be the Highlord, and that they might start to think about why this NPC wants one of them as the Highlord. Evil is about being selfish. If they just have glory and success without having to worry about being stabbed on their back, so they are not that evil.
#13 zombiegleemax Dec 02, 2005 6:51:37	Couldnt agree with you more, lot, except for one thing: yes, the white wing is the least respected and less important, but they still a dragon army. White dragons are dogs? Compared to what? Red Great Wyrms? - Then, you would have a point... But they are still dragons, even if they are the weaker ones. The white dragon highlord is locked in icewall only because he wants too. Feal-Thas forged and aliance with Stormogre in Southern Ergoth just to advance his army and have his way with the Silvanesti. But still: he would be expanding his forces through a little part of Ansalon besides the cold lands of the south. Yes, the White Wing is pretty small, but you still a Dragon Highlord. You still get your seat in the Temple of Neraka, you still get to ride dragons, and have the minotaurs and thanoi at your heels. You become a something more than just an officer in the hands of the army. You become one of the leaders (again, a least important one, but stilll a leader). And about the evil thing: you are completely right. Evil is about beeing selfish, its about achieving power, domination over the weak (just as the Dark Queen taught us). And thats exactly why they should bother with the position as Dragon Highlord: influence and power. k, thats all... Burger ps: I will not force them into the position... if they want to get it, good for them. If not, the game will continue and some other guy will have the title. They group needs to think some stuff on their own...
#14 zombiegleemax Dec 02, 2005 7:04:22	that they should ddo something for themselves. But I think they should be punished for being lazy thinkers, if they don't try to become the Highlord. You should put an NPC they hate in this position. Hehehe. About the white dragons... well... I am pretty used to play as a fighter, and I have very little respect for the white dragons.
#15 sluggo Dec 19, 2005 21:55:28	I believe its mentioned that Toede was picked because they needed to find a highlord quickly and since he'd be basically ruling the Kender even he would be able to do it. He was there, and at least able to surpress the Kender.
#16 zombiegleemax Dec 20, 2005 12:32:05	Toede couldn`t even keep control over his mount, how could he keep control over an army of kenders? (Well... why should anybody wants to be near an army of kenders?) The kenders would probally surrender. All of them. And the stupid Toede would only see the terrible mistake of take them all as prisioners after they have been all taken to the prison. Now imagine some place like Pax Tarkhas full of kenders. They would become close friends of the gooly dwarves. Nobody would never forget Toede after this.