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#1 karui_kage Jan 09, 2006 21:20:36	I am going to be running the Key of Destiny campaign eventually for a group of players, and as usual in my games, plan on making sure that everyone knows what's allowed before hand. The preferred method is usually a small list, but as Dragonlance is a new setting for them, I wanted to go the extra distance. Edit: This is presuming the current Dragonlance timeline for Key of Destiny, as in Age of Mortals and such. Obviously, some of the Complete _____ prestige classes just won't work in Dragonlance. Some can work with a few small changes (cosmetic or not), and some work fine as is. I have (I believe) figured out most of what I'd like to allow and disallow, but also would like this board's input. I plan on having each of the prestige classes in the four Complete books listed here, along with a few things that I will update based on responses. It is my hope to get a lot of input on classes that haven't been filled in yet, or comments on ones that already have. That said, the format I will use is fairly simple: Prestige Class Name - Page Number Availability: This should be answered with either Yes, No, or Maybe. The Maybe option would be if it could be offered, but with some changes (cosmetic or not). Be judicious on what you use Maybe for. Some classes are easy to work into Dragonlance with a few minor changes (A Radiant Servant of Pelor, for example, may just require a basic Name change and Deity requirement). Some, on the other hand, could work with changes, but the changes would be much more than 'minor' changes (whether due to Prestige Flavor or Race Incompatibility, etc.) and thus the prestige should be labeled "No" for availability instead (Gnome Giant Slayer is an example, as gnomes have no real racial history/stat bonus against Giants in the first place). Changes: If Maybe was said on Availability, then explain what changes should be made to the prestige before it would work. A name change, a skill change, etc. Place in Dragonlance: If Yes or Maybe were answered above, then how would this prestige work in Dragonlance? A simple one or two sentence (though I could see three or four, if it was unusually complex) description would work here. Some are easily obvious, such as styles or general prestiges (Vigilante, Tempest). If No was answered to Availability, explain why the prestige wouldn't work in Dragonlance. Some will be self-explanatory. That said, here are the prestige classes from the Complete books. Im giving names and page numbers only, so as not to infringe on any copyrights. Edit: As there were more prestiges than I previously though (or rather, they make the page look longer than I expected), I'm adding italicized acronyms to the end of each 'section' for ease of locating. As I cannot use anchors in here (they disabled that part of vB code, Im afraid), copying and pasting the appropriate code into "Find" will have to do. Double Edit: The above no longer applies, as I've made each of the sections into a Spoiler Block now, which should make it easier to navigate. [u]Complete Adventurer[/u] - 26 Prestige Classes / 5 Submissions Show Animal Lord - pg. 22 Availability: Changes: Place in Dragonlance: Beastmaster - pg. 26 Availability: Changes: Place in Dragonlance: Bloodhound - pg. 28 Availability: Changes: Place in Dragonlance: Daggerspell Mage - pg. 31 Availability: Changes: Place in Dragonlance: Daggerspell Shaper - pg. 36 Availability: Changes: Place in Dragonlance: Dread Pirate - pg. 39 - Submitted by caeruleus Availability: Yes. Changes: None. Place in Dragonlance: Minotaurs and Ergothians could certainly take this prestige class. It could be an alternative to the mariner, if you want certain characters to be a little different. Dungeon Delver - pg. 42 Availability: Changes: Place in Dragonlance: Exemplar - pg. 44 Availability: Changes: Place in Dragonlance: Fochlucan Lycist - pg. 47 Availability: Changes: Place in Dragonlance: Ghost-Faced Killer - pg. 51 Availability: Changes: Place in Dragonlance: Highland Stalker - pg. 54 Availability: Changes: Place in Dragonlance: Maester - pg. 56 - Submitted by Mortepierre Availability: Limited (Gnomes only). Changes: None. Place in Dragonlance: If there is one Prestige Class that belongs on Krynn, it's this one! (Though I dare say it wouldn't be a favorite of the gnomes given it relies too much on magic). [The gnomes that would take this prestige would more than likely be sorcerers, as gnomish wizards are very rare. - KK] Master of Many Forms - pg. 58 Availability: Changes: Place in Dragonlance: Nightsong Enforcer - pg. 60 Availability: Changes: Place in Dragonlance: Nightsong Infiltrator - pg. 62 Availability: Changes: Place in Dragonlance: Ollam - pg. 66 - Submitted by Mortepierre Availability: Limited (Dwarven subraces only). Changes: None Place in Dragonlance: On Ansalon, I would allow only Daewar, Hylar, and Neidar access to this PrC. On Taladas, access would be restricted to the Scorned Dwarves' storysmiths. Do note that since neither the clerics of Branchala nor those of Reorx can be LG, only bards or rogues would be able to multiclass "easily" in this PrC. Shadowbane Inquisitor - pg. 68 - Submitted by Mortepierre Availability: Yes (Age of Might Only). Changes: None Place in Dragonlance: From 118 PC to the Cataclysm, the Kingpriest of Istar had declared Evil an affront to both gods and mortals. A long campaign of eradication began. The Shadowbane Inquisitors & Shadowbane Stalkers would serve as elite soldiers in this war, tracking down Evil even in locations where the legions of Istar dare not (or cannot yet) go. However, with the Kingpriest turning also against Neutrality and - in the end - all deities of Good (but Paladine), many SI & SS would certainly "fall from grace". Shadowbane Stalker - pg. 70 - Submitted by Mortepierre Availability: See Shadowbane Inquisitor. Changes: See Shadowbane Inquisitor. Place in Dragonlance: See Shadowbane Inquisitor. Shadowmind - pg. 74 Availability: Changes: Place in Dragonlance: Spymaster - pg. 76 Availability: Changes: Place in Dragonlance: Streetfighter - pg. 79 Availability: Changes: Place in Dragonlance: Tempest - pg. 81 Availability: Changes: Place in Dragonlance: Thief-Acrobat - pg. 83 Availability: Changes: Place in Dragonlance: Vigilante - pg. 85 Availability: Changes: Place in Dragonlance: Virtuoso - pg. 89 Availability: Changes: Place in Dragonlance: Wild Plains Outrider - pg. 92 Availability: Changes: Place in Dragonlance:
#2 karui_kage Jan 10, 2006 18:27:38	So many views. So few replies.
#3 zombiegleemax Jan 11, 2006 1:37:09	To be honest they all work in DL if you want them to, some as you said require slight tweeks but in most cases a simple name alteration will do. Anything that you feel is at home in Krynn is just that.
#4 karui_kage Jan 11, 2006 2:14:56	See, I see a lot that don't outrightly work. Thayan Knight, Purple Dragon Knight, Gnomish Giant Slayer, etc. I already have what I think do and don't work on a general list for myself, but I wanted some outside input. Yes, ANY class could be made to work, but some would have to be changed too much. It's my wish to figure out what work with NO changes, and what work with very MINOR changes. I also hoped that anyone with similar questions could come here and get ideas if a player wished to use one of the mentioned prestiges in his/her game. Similar to the information provided here: http://www.dl3e.com/fan/rules/13402.aspx
#5 Mortepierre Jan 11, 2006 15:26:52	Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil Availability: limited (WoHS only) Changes: none Place in Dragonlance: used (IMC) by an elite group of White Robe wizards (all specialized in Abjuration) who are more proactive than reactive when it comes to fighting
#6 karui_kage Jan 11, 2006 21:45:32	Excellent! That's what I like to see, thank you! :D I'll post a few of the ones I thought of later, though I'd love to see a lot of outside input.
#7 Mortepierre Jan 12, 2006 4:35:18	Acolyte of the Skin Availability: Yes Changes: None Place in Dragonlance: evil spellcasters in DL are quick to jump on any opportunity to increase their powers. This is just another way to do it, though Black Robes would probably hesitate for fear that others might say they have become obsessed with Evil rather than Magic. Priests of evil deities (Hiddukel in particular) would see it as a way to get closer to their god. Alienist Availability: No Changes: None Place in Dragonlance: the DL setting isn't known to harbor many monsters of the Aberration subtype, which is usually an indication of only the most tenuous link to the Far Realms Suel Arcanamach Availability: No (Maybe) Changes: None (language prerequisite) Place in Dragonlance: Belongs exclusively in GH, not DL. No empire, whether on Ansalon or Taladas, ever had so many powerful wizards that there was a need for this PrC. That said, I see two possible ways of introducing it: 1) as a special assassin used by the Kingpriest during his war against the WoHS (but I doubt it given he already had the Knights of the Divine Hammer) 2) exactly as described if you're using the alternate timeline of Magocracy of Ansalon from the Legends of the Twins accessory
#8 karui_kage Jan 12, 2006 6:00:08	Excellent post, Monte. :o I didn't even think of the possibility for the Suel Arcanamach, I had just automatically written it off. Thanks again for the help. I'm going to see if anyone else posts by tomorrow night before I post a few of the ones I've thought of. I was going to start with the Complete Warrior.
#9 Mortepierre Jan 12, 2006 9:17:13	Shadowbane Inquisitor Availability: Yes (Age of Might only) Changes: None Place in Dragonlance: From 118 PC to the Cataclysm, the Kingpriest of Istar had declared Evil an affront to both gods and mortals. A long campaign of eradication began. The SI & SS would serve as elite soldiers in this war, tracking down Evil even in locations where the legions of Istar dare not (or cannot yet) go. However, with the Kingpriest turning also against Neutrality and - in the end - all deities of Good (but Paladine), many SI & SS would certainly "fall from grace". Shadowbane Stalker Availability: see SI Changes: see SI Place in Dragonlance: see SI Maester Availability: Limited (Gnomes only) Changes: None Place in Dragonlance: If there is one PrC that belongs on Krynn, it's this one! (though I dare say it wouldn't be a favorite of the gnomes given it relies too much on magic) Ollam Availability: Limited (Dwarven subraces only) Changes: None Place in Dragonlance: On Ansalon, I would allow only Daewar, Hylar, and Neidar access to this PrC. On Taladas, access would be restricted to the Scorned Dwarves' storysmiths. Do note that since neither the clerics of Branchala nor those of Reorx can be LG, only bards or rogues would be able to multiclass "easily" in this PrC.
#10 Dragonhelm Jan 12, 2006 9:21:42	Hey, once you have this done, please submit it to the Nexus. I've been looking for just such an article and haven't had time to write it myself.
#11 zombiegleemax Jan 12, 2006 14:58:28	There are also prestige classes in The Book of Exalted Deeds and The Book of Vile Darkness which can work in Dragonlance. For example: Chemosh has often been associated with Orcus; though not absolute, this might allow you to play with the cult prestige class in tBoVD dedicated to Orcus, as his followers could be anywhere. There's one for Bahamut as well, who's very similar (except for being a lesser diety) to Paladine; the PrC is an order of Paladins, if I'm not mistaken. You could tweek that one. Even the Initiate of Pistis Sophia could loosely be translated for followers of Majere. Just a few ideas. Although I prefer to keep my world a little more limited, as things can get crazy when you allow too many things to transpire. It takes the Dragonlance out of Dragonlance, if you catch my drift. :P
#12 Mortepierre Jan 12, 2006 15:01:49	Church Inquisitor Availability: Yes Changes: None Place in Dragonlance: Some might say that, given the availability of an Inquisitor PrC in the DL setting, there is no need for the CI. I would argue that the two have different (though complementary) roles. The Inquisitor is there to find out what you've been doing behind everyone's back the old-fashion way. You don't need to belong to a spellcasting class to become one, so that's a good PrC in any Age where people are denied access to magic. The CI, on the other hand, focuses on finding out who is truly evil and removing the corrupted - sometimes with extreme prejudice - from any organization/society through their god-given powers. Warpriest Availability: Yes Changes: None Place in Dragonlance: As the Dragonarmies demonstrated during the War of the Lance, having clerics on your side really makes a difference on the battlefield. Steady access to healing, divination, and/or food/water - especially when your enemies are denied the same - increases tremendously your chances of winning. Seeker of the Misty Isle Availability: Limited (see below) Changes: Racial prerequisite (see below) Place in Dragonlance: As it is in the CD, this PrC has nothing to do in DL. However, there is an easy way to use it. Simply change the race it concerns. Instead of elves seeking out the Misty Isle, it will be Mischta searching for Anaiatha! (DLR1 accessory, p.33)
#13 Mortepierre Jan 13, 2006 6:30:57	Evangelist Availability: No Changes: None Place in Dragonlance: there is already a DL PrC filling that role, the Righteous Zealot. Radiant Servant of Pelor Availability: No Changes: None Place in Dragonlance: Pelor isn't Paladine and he isn't Mishakal either (both of which have their own PrC anyway) Rainbow Servant Availability: Limited (seen any Couatl lately? :P ) Changes: None Place in Dragonlance: I can't recall any Couatl ever appearing in DL (could be my sieve memory though). That said, they wouldn't be that out of place on a setting harboring both dragons and snakes of various kinds. On Taladas, I would place their ruined temples in the Neron or Syldar area. On Ansalon (4th Age), I can't see where they would belong, except it needs to be warm.
#14 karui_kage Jan 13, 2006 7:20:32	Holy crap man. o.o Well, time to add these in. Thanks much for all the contributions! And don't worry Dragon, I'll put this up on the site once it's complete. Going to be weird translating it into a similar format, though Im sure anchors will work. Edit: Also, which prestiges were you referencing that Paladine and Mishakal already have? A prestige from a non-DL book that just hasn't been listed yet, I presume? Unless I missed it in one of the DL books (I have DLCS, WotL, ToHS, and AoM).
#15 clarkvalentine Jan 13, 2006 7:35:38	Edit: Also, which prestiges were you referencing that Paladine and Mishakal already have? A prestige from a non-DL book that just hasn't been listed yet, I presume? Unless I missed it in one of the DL books (I have DLCS, WotL, ToHS, and AoM). Holy Orders of the Stars has a PrC for each god (aside from gods of magic, who have ToHS). There's the Bright Warden of Paladine and the Healing Hand of Mishakal.
#16 karui_kage Jan 13, 2006 7:37:22	Damn, I knew there was a DL book I hadn't got yet. Is it a fairly recent one? And, can anyone tell me what the book is he's referencing here? "it will be Mischta searching for Anaiatha! (DLR1 accessory, p.33)" The DLR1 part. I assume it means Dragonlance R1 or something. That may just be it, as I've known modules to have simplistic codes such as M3 or R1 like that.
#17 Mortepierre Jan 13, 2006 7:45:21	Ask and you shall receive.. http://home.flash.net/~brenfrow/dl/dl-dlr1.htm
#18 cam_banks Jan 13, 2006 7:50:10	Damn, I knew there was a DL book I hadn't got yet. Is it a fairly recent one? Yep! Came out in the last few months. Well, it was on sale at GenCon 2005, but yes, it's recent. And, can anyone tell me what the book is he's referencing here? "it will be Mischta searching for Anaiatha! (DLR1 accessory, p.33)" DLR1 Otherlands is a product that is both loved and hated by DL fans and contains all manner of bizarre locations outside of Ansalon and Taladas. We converted a number of the new monsters in this book to 3.5 for the Bestiary of Krynn (it's where the funno, ursoi, and razhak first appeared) but otherwise, there are DL fans who enjoy it for all of the (so far unsupported) expansion it provided on evil ogres, Irda, and so on. Cheers, Cam
#19 Mortepierre Jan 13, 2006 7:50:22	Damn, I knew there was a DL book I hadn't got yet. Is it a fairly recent one? You might say that. It came out in Sept.2005 ;)
#20 karui_kage Jan 13, 2006 7:53:37	Wow Monte, do you ever sleep? (then again, neither do I). Either way, thanks! By the way, Im working on the CW prestiges now, and am up to Darkwood Stalker. I cannot remember any orcs ever being in Dragonlance, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to check. Regardless, I am almost certain they aren't the elve's 'ancient enemies'. That would more than likely be the minotaurs. Edit: And Cam too! What do you say Mr. Banks, up to submitting any ideas of your own on the Prestiges?
#21 cam_banks Jan 13, 2006 8:05:40	By the way, Im working on the CW prestiges now, and am up to Darkwood Stalker. I cannot remember any orcs ever being in Dragonlance, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to check. Regardless, I am almost certain they aren't the elve's 'ancient enemies'. That would more than likely be the minotaurs. Ogres, more likely. No orcs in Dragonlance! Despite the occasional editing snafu. Edit: And Cam too! What do you say Mr. Banks, up to submitting any ideas of your own on the Prestiges? I'm usually too busy writing the DL ones to comment. Cheers, Cam
#22 karui_kage Jan 13, 2006 8:07:13	Fair enough, and well welcomed prestiges they are. Thanks for the info on the Ogres! I hadn't thought of them initially.
#23 karui_kage Jan 13, 2006 9:07:19	Well, I put six up on Complete Warrior. Not as many as I'd liked to have done now, but I need to sleep sometime. Morte, thanks again for all your contributions. They really are helpful.
#24 Mortepierre Jan 14, 2006 12:16:45	Morte, thanks again for all your contributions. They really are helpful. Glad to be of help. Ah, what the heck, let's put another one. Rather easy too. Eye of Gruumsh Availability: No Changes: None Place in Dragonlance: Orcs do not exist in DL and neither does their mythology. Ergo, this PrC would serve no purpose.
#25 karui_kage Jan 14, 2006 18:31:02	Heh. Poor Orcs, they get no love. Thanks again Morte. I really wish more than you and I would contribute though (and I definitely need to do more on the CW too). I'll add that latest one in a bit, game tonight, so I will update this when I return. Thanks again!
#26 karui_kage Jan 16, 2006 17:27:51	More updates in the Complete Warrior section. Sorry for being absent for so long, busy weekend and all. Does anyone other than myself and Morte wish to contribute? It'd certainly help this go faster, along with give more perspectives to the many different prestige classes. Even offering additional advice to the ones already done is helpful, if you think there is something missed/incorrect.
#27 karui_kage Jan 20, 2006 4:11:15	Bump Anyone else going to contribute? It only takes a few seconds to do one, and even one helps out (there's a lot left). I know you guys know the setting as well as I do, so come on, lets make this a group effort.
#28 zombiegleemax Jan 21, 2006 12:18:24	Why are you doing all this work? As a fan of that anything can be adapted to any world, you can adapt any prc to krynn. Just do it on a case by case basis with your players.
#29 karui_kage Jan 21, 2006 18:44:04	Well, as I said in my first post, it's not a matter of adapting anything to Krynn, it's adapting prestige classes to it that wouldn't require much change. Take a look at some of the prestige classes that have No said to them above, for example. Anything involving Orcs. To use them would require Orcs put back into the setting, and that's a bit more change than I'd like. I'm mostly doing this for my own game, but also (as I plan to put it up on the Nexus) for any DMs doing Dragonlance that would like a quick and simple list of prestige classes to reference when players ask, that wouldn't require much change to the world.
#30 caeruleus Jan 28, 2006 15:19:41	Dread Pirate Availability: Yes Changes: None Place in Dragonlance: Minotaurs and Ergothians could certainly take this prestige class. It could be an alternative to the mariner, if you want certain characters to be a little different. Mage of the Arcane Order Availability: No Changes: N/A Place in Dragonlance: The only order is the Wizards of High Sorcery, and they have their own prestige class. There's no spellpool on Ansalon anyway. Holy Liberator Availability: Maybe Changes: Have spellcasting be due to mysticism. Give a few spells known per level, and spontaneous spellcasting. Place in Dragonlance: Perhaps members of the Legion of Steel could take this prestige class, and use some of the abilities to help liberate people from the dragon overlords and Knights of Neraka. So it should only be available in the Fifth Age.
#31 caeruleus Jan 28, 2006 15:24:40	By the way, nice project you got here. I agree with Dragonhelm, something like this should be on the Nexus.
#32 karui_kage Jan 29, 2006 15:19:29	Thanks for the compliment, and Im glad someone new was able to contribute. :D I was a little worried that this project was dying, so am glad to see new life brought into it. Though I wouldn't mind doing all the prestiges, it seemed a little silly to have it be just two people (originally myself and Morte), when my hopes was that everyone's ideas would be contributed. As I know there are things I definitely don't think of that others do. That said, thanks again for your contribution. Now that there's a little new blood in it (which it was updated with), I'll put in a couple more for one of the books in a bit, probably three or so. I don't want it to be saturated with my submissions or anything.
#33 zombiegleemax Feb 08, 2006 20:39:28	Alienist Availability: Extremely Rare Changes: Replace "Far Realms" with the "Ethereal Sea" (aka. "Beyond") Place in Dragonlance: Perhaps some crazed sorcerors during the early Age of Mortals made contact with strange beings from outside of Krynn's normal experience, ie. beings who previously could not penetrate the protections the gods had put up but with both the gods and the normal planes missing from Krynn they can now access the world. Plus Krynn is now in some remote place in the universe (relative to its original place) so who knows what lies out here?
#34 aravanus Feb 15, 2006 14:46:41	I haven't been to the forums in a while, so I hadn't see your thread until now. I would love to help out (and this seems like a marginally worthwile project :P ), however I don't have any of my books with me (as I am currently at school). Nevertheless, I should begin to start making additions over the next week. Furthermore, would you like me to start adding PrC from other 3.5 books, such as BoVD and BoED, as someone earlier mentioned?
#35 karui_kage Feb 16, 2006 3:18:01	I'd love the assistance, I was afraid this was starting (or already had) gone dead. As for other books, I think it'd be great to have them eventually, but it may be best to finish these up first before adding more work to the list, so I at least have something initially complete to submit to the Nexus, and my players. ;)

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karui_kage

Jan 09, 2006 21:20:36

I am going to be running the Key of Destiny campaign eventually for a group of players, and as usual in my games, plan on making sure that everyone knows what's allowed before hand. The preferred method is usually a small list, but as Dragonlance is a new setting for them, I wanted to go the extra distance.

Edit: This is presuming the current Dragonlance timeline for Key of Destiny, as in Age of Mortals and such.

Obviously, some of the Complete _____ prestige classes just won't work in Dragonlance. Some can work with a few small changes (cosmetic or not), and some work fine as is. I have (I believe) figured out most of what I'd like to allow and disallow, but also would like this board's input. I plan on having each of the prestige classes in the four Complete books listed here, along with a few things that I will update based on responses. It is my hope to get a lot of input on classes that haven't been filled in yet, or comments on ones that already have.

That said, the format I will use is fairly simple:
Prestige Class Name - Page Number
Availability: This should be answered with either Yes, No, or Maybe. The Maybe option would be if it could be offered, but with some changes (cosmetic or not). Be judicious on what you use Maybe for. Some classes are easy to work into Dragonlance with a few minor changes (A Radiant Servant of Pelor, for example, may just require a basic Name change and Deity requirement). Some, on the other hand, *could* work with changes, but the changes would be much more than 'minor' changes (whether due to Prestige Flavor or Race Incompatibility, etc.) and thus the prestige should be labeled "No" for availability instead (Gnome Giant Slayer is an example, as gnomes have no real racial history/stat bonus against Giants in the first place).
Changes: If Maybe was said on Availability, then explain what changes should be made to the prestige before it would work. A name change, a skill change, etc.
Place in Dragonlance: If Yes or Maybe were answered above, then how would this prestige work in Dragonlance? A simple one or two sentence (though I could see three or four, if it was unusually complex) description would work here. Some are easily obvious, such as styles or general prestiges (Vigilante, Tempest). If No was answered to Availability, explain why the prestige wouldn't work in Dragonlance. Some will be self-explanatory.

That said, here are the prestige classes from the Complete books. Im giving names and page numbers only, so as not to infringe on any copyrights.

Edit: As there were more prestiges than I previously though (or rather, they make the page look longer than I expected), I'm adding italicized acronyms to the end of each 'section' for ease of locating. As I cannot use anchors in here (they disabled that part of vB code, Im afraid), copying and pasting the appropriate code into "Find" will have to do.

Double Edit: The above no longer applies, as I've made each of the sections into a Spoiler Block now, which should make it easier to navigate.

[u]Complete Adventurer[/u] - 26 Prestige Classes / 5 Submissions

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Dread Pirate - pg. 39 - Submitted by caeruleus
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Dungeon Delver - pg. 42
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Maester - pg. 56 - Submitted by Mortepierre
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Place in Dragonlance: If there is one Prestige Class that belongs on Krynn, it's this one! (Though I dare say it wouldn't be a favorite of the gnomes given it relies too much on magic). [The gnomes that would take this prestige would more than likely be sorcerers, as gnomish wizards are very rare. - KK]

Master of Many Forms - pg. 58
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Ollam - pg. 66 - Submitted by Mortepierre
Availability: Limited (Dwarven subraces only).
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Place in Dragonlance: On Ansalon, I would allow only Daewar, Hylar, and Neidar access to this PrC. On Taladas, access would be restricted to the Scorned Dwarves' storysmiths. Do note that since neither the clerics of Branchala nor those of Reorx can be LG, only bards or rogues would be able to multiclass "easily" in this PrC.

Shadowbane Inquisitor - pg. 68 - Submitted by Mortepierre
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Place in Dragonlance: From 118 PC to the Cataclysm, the Kingpriest of Istar had declared Evil an affront to both gods and mortals. A long campaign of eradication began. The Shadowbane Inquisitors & Shadowbane Stalkers would serve as elite soldiers in this war, tracking down Evil even in locations where the legions of Istar dare not (or cannot yet) go. However, with the Kingpriest turning also against Neutrality and - in the end - all deities of Good (but Paladine), many SI & SS would certainly "fall from grace".

Shadowbane Stalker - pg. 70 - Submitted by Mortepierre
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karui_kage

Jan 10, 2006 18:27:38

So many views. So few replies.

zombiegleemax

Jan 11, 2006 1:37:09

To be honest they all work in DL if you want them to, some as you said require slight tweeks but in most cases a simple name alteration will do. Anything that you feel is at home in Krynn is just that.

karui_kage

Jan 11, 2006 2:14:56

See, I see a lot that don't outrightly work. Thayan Knight, Purple Dragon Knight, Gnomish Giant Slayer, etc. I already have what I think do and don't work on a general list for myself, but I wanted some outside input. Yes, ANY class could be made to work, but some would have to be changed too much. It's my wish to figure out what work with NO changes, and what work with very MINOR changes.

I also hoped that anyone with similar questions could come here and get ideas if a player wished to use one of the mentioned prestiges in his/her game. Similar to the information provided here: http://www.dl3e.com/fan/rules/13402.aspx

Mortepierre

Jan 11, 2006 15:26:52

Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil
Availability: limited (WoHS only)
Changes: none
Place in Dragonlance: used (IMC) by an elite group of White Robe wizards (all specialized in Abjuration) who are more proactive than reactive when it comes to fighting

karui_kage

Jan 11, 2006 21:45:32

Excellent! That's what I like to see, thank you! :D I'll post a few of the ones I thought of later, though I'd love to see a lot of outside input.

Mortepierre

Jan 12, 2006 4:35:18

Acolyte of the Skin
Availability: Yes
Changes: None
Place in Dragonlance: evil spellcasters in DL are quick to jump on any opportunity to increase their powers. This is just another way to do it, though Black Robes would probably hesitate for fear that others might say they have become obsessed with Evil rather than Magic. Priests of evil deities (Hiddukel in particular) would see it as a way to get closer to their god.

Alienist
Availability: No
Changes: None
Place in Dragonlance: the DL setting isn't known to harbor many monsters of the Aberration subtype, which is usually an indication of only the most tenuous link to the Far Realms

Suel Arcanamach
Availability: No (Maybe)
Changes: None (language prerequisite)
Place in Dragonlance: Belongs exclusively in GH, not DL. No empire, whether on Ansalon or Taladas, ever had so many powerful wizards that there was a need for this PrC. That said, I see two possible ways of introducing it:
1) as a special assassin used by the Kingpriest during his war against the WoHS (but I doubt it given he already had the Knights of the Divine Hammer)
2) exactly as described if you're using the alternate timeline of Magocracy of Ansalon from the Legends of the Twins accessory

karui_kage

Jan 12, 2006 6:00:08

Excellent post, Monte. :o I didn't even think of the possibility for the Suel Arcanamach, I had just automatically written it off. Thanks again for the help. I'm going to see if anyone else posts by tomorrow night before I post a few of the ones I've thought of. I was going to start with the Complete Warrior.

Mortepierre

Jan 12, 2006 9:17:13

Shadowbane Inquisitor
Availability: Yes (Age of Might only)
Changes: None
Place in Dragonlance: From 118 PC to the Cataclysm, the Kingpriest of Istar had declared Evil an affront to both gods and mortals. A long campaign of eradication began. The SI & SS would serve as elite soldiers in this war, tracking down Evil even in locations where the legions of Istar dare not (or cannot yet) go. However, with the Kingpriest turning also against Neutrality and - in the end - all deities of Good (but Paladine), many SI & SS would certainly "fall from grace".

Shadowbane Stalker
Availability: see SI
Changes: see SI
Place in Dragonlance: see SI

Maester
Availability: Limited (Gnomes only)
Changes: None
Place in Dragonlance: If there is one PrC that belongs on Krynn, it's this one! (though I dare say it wouldn't be a favorite of the gnomes given it relies too much on magic)

Ollam
Availability: Limited (Dwarven subraces only)
Changes: None
Place in Dragonlance: On Ansalon, I would allow only Daewar, Hylar, and Neidar access to this PrC. On Taladas, access would be restricted to the Scorned Dwarves' storysmiths. Do note that since neither the clerics of Branchala nor those of Reorx can be LG, only bards or rogues would be able to multiclass "easily" in this PrC.

#10

Dragonhelm

Jan 12, 2006 9:21:42

Hey, once you have this done, please submit it to the Nexus. I've been looking for just such an article and haven't had time to write it myself.

#11

zombiegleemax

Jan 12, 2006 14:58:28

There are also prestige classes in The Book of Exalted Deeds and The Book of Vile Darkness which can work in Dragonlance. For example:

Chemosh has often been associated with Orcus; though not absolute, this might allow you to play with the cult prestige class in tBoVD dedicated to Orcus, as his followers could be anywhere.

There's one for Bahamut as well, who's very similar (except for being a lesser diety) to Paladine; the PrC is an order of Paladins, if I'm not mistaken. You could tweek that one. Even the Initiate of Pistis Sophia could loosely be translated for followers of Majere.

Just a few ideas. Although I prefer to keep my world a little more limited, as things can get crazy when you allow too many things to transpire. It takes the Dragonlance out of Dragonlance, if you catch my drift. :P

#12

Mortepierre

Jan 12, 2006 15:01:49

Church Inquisitor
Availability: Yes
Changes: None
Place in Dragonlance: Some might say that, given the availability of an Inquisitor PrC in the DL setting, there is no need for the CI. I would argue that the two have different (though complementary) roles. The Inquisitor is there to find out what you've been doing behind everyone's back the old-fashion way. You don't need to belong to a spellcasting class to become one, so that's a good PrC in any Age where people are denied access to magic. The CI, on the other hand, focuses on finding out who is truly evil and removing the corrupted - sometimes with extreme prejudice - from any organization/society through their god-given powers.

Warpriest
Availability: Yes
Changes: None
Place in Dragonlance: As the Dragonarmies demonstrated during the War of the Lance, having clerics on your side really makes a difference on the battlefield. Steady access to healing, divination, and/or food/water - especially when your enemies are denied the same - increases tremendously your chances of winning.

Seeker of the Misty Isle
Availability: Limited (see below)
Changes: Racial prerequisite (see below)
Place in Dragonlance: As it is in the CD, this PrC has nothing to do in DL. However, there is an easy way to use it. Simply change the race it concerns. Instead of elves seeking out the Misty Isle, it will be Mischta searching for Anaiatha! (DLR1 accessory, p.33)

#13

Mortepierre

Jan 13, 2006 6:30:57

Evangelist
Availability: No
Changes: None
Place in Dragonlance: there is already a DL PrC filling that role, the Righteous Zealot.

Radiant Servant of Pelor
Availability: No
Changes: None
Place in Dragonlance: Pelor isn't Paladine and he isn't Mishakal either (both of which have their own PrC anyway)

Rainbow Servant
Availability: Limited (seen any Couatl lately? :P )
Changes: None
Place in Dragonlance: I can't recall any Couatl ever appearing in DL (could be my sieve memory though). That said, they wouldn't be that out of place on a setting harboring both dragons and snakes of various kinds. On Taladas, I would place their ruined temples in the Neron or Syldar area. On Ansalon (4th Age), I can't see where they would belong, except it needs to be warm.

#14

karui_kage

Jan 13, 2006 7:20:32

Holy crap man. o.o Well, time to add these in. Thanks much for all the contributions!

And don't worry Dragon, I'll put this up on the site once it's complete. Going to be weird translating it into a similar format, though Im sure anchors will work.

Edit: Also, which prestiges were you referencing that Paladine and Mishakal already have? A prestige from a non-DL book that just hasn't been listed yet, I presume? Unless I missed it in one of the DL books (I have DLCS, WotL, ToHS, and AoM).

#15

clarkvalentine

Jan 13, 2006 7:35:38

Edit: Also, which prestiges were you referencing that Paladine and Mishakal already have? A prestige from a non-DL book that just hasn't been listed yet, I presume? Unless I missed it in one of the DL books (I have DLCS, WotL, ToHS, and AoM).

Holy Orders of the Stars has a PrC for each god (aside from gods of magic, who have ToHS). There's the Bright Warden of Paladine and the Healing Hand of Mishakal.

#16

karui_kage

Jan 13, 2006 7:37:22

Damn, I knew there was a DL book I hadn't got yet. Is it a fairly recent one?

And, can anyone tell me what the book is he's referencing here? "it will be Mischta searching for Anaiatha! (DLR1 accessory, p.33)"

The DLR1 part. I assume it means Dragonlance R1 or something. That may just be it, as I've known modules to have simplistic codes such as M3 or R1 like that.

#17

Mortepierre

Jan 13, 2006 7:45:21

Ask and you shall receive..
http://home.flash.net/~brenfrow/dl/dl-dlr1.htm

#18

cam_banks

Jan 13, 2006 7:50:10

Damn, I knew there was a DL book I hadn't got yet. Is it a fairly recent one?

Yep! Came out in the last few months. Well, it was on sale at GenCon 2005, but yes, it's recent.

And, can anyone tell me what the book is he's referencing here? "it will be Mischta searching for Anaiatha! (DLR1 accessory, p.33)"

DLR1 Otherlands is a product that is both loved and hated by DL fans and contains all manner of bizarre locations outside of Ansalon and Taladas. We converted a number of the new monsters in this book to 3.5 for the Bestiary of Krynn (it's where the funno, ursoi, and razhak first appeared) but otherwise, there are DL fans who enjoy it for all of the (so far unsupported) expansion it provided on evil ogres, Irda, and so on.

Cheers,
Cam

#19

Mortepierre

Jan 13, 2006 7:50:22

Damn, I knew there was a DL book I hadn't got yet. Is it a fairly recent one?

You might say that. It came out in Sept.2005 ;)

#20

karui_kage

Jan 13, 2006 7:53:37

Wow Monte, do you ever sleep? (then again, neither do I). Either way, thanks!

By the way, Im working on the CW prestiges now, and am up to Darkwood Stalker. I cannot remember any orcs ever being in Dragonlance, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to check. Regardless, I am almost certain they aren't the elve's 'ancient enemies'. That would more than likely be the minotaurs.

Edit: And Cam too! What do you say Mr. Banks, up to submitting any ideas of your own on the Prestiges?

#21

cam_banks

Jan 13, 2006 8:05:40

By the way, Im working on the CW prestiges now, and am up to Darkwood Stalker. I cannot remember any orcs ever being in Dragonlance, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to check. Regardless, I am almost certain they aren't the elve's 'ancient enemies'. That would more than likely be the minotaurs.

Ogres, more likely. No orcs in Dragonlance! Despite the occasional editing snafu.

Edit: And Cam too! What do you say Mr. Banks, up to submitting any ideas of your own on the Prestiges?

I'm usually too busy writing the DL ones to comment.

Cheers,
Cam

#22

karui_kage

Jan 13, 2006 8:07:13

Fair enough, and well welcomed prestiges they are. Thanks for the info on the Ogres! I hadn't thought of them initially.

#23

karui_kage

Jan 13, 2006 9:07:19

Well, I put six up on Complete Warrior. Not as many as I'd liked to have done now, but I need to sleep sometime.

Morte, thanks again for all your contributions. They really are helpful.

#24

Mortepierre

Jan 14, 2006 12:16:45

Morte, thanks again for all your contributions. They really are helpful.

Glad to be of help.

Ah, what the heck, let's put another one. Rather easy too.

Eye of Gruumsh
Availability: No
Changes: None
Place in Dragonlance: Orcs do not exist in DL and neither does their mythology. Ergo, this PrC would serve no purpose.

#25

karui_kage

Jan 14, 2006 18:31:02

Heh. Poor Orcs, they get no love. Thanks again Morte. I really wish more than you and I would contribute though (and I definitely need to do more on the CW too).

I'll add that latest one in a bit, game tonight, so I will update this when I return. Thanks again!

#26

karui_kage

Jan 16, 2006 17:27:51

More updates in the Complete Warrior section. Sorry for being absent for so long, busy weekend and all.

Does anyone other than myself and Morte wish to contribute? It'd certainly help this go faster, along with give more perspectives to the many different prestige classes. Even offering additional advice to the ones already done is helpful, if you think there is something missed/incorrect.

#27

karui_kage

Jan 20, 2006 4:11:15

Bump

Anyone else going to contribute? It only takes a few seconds to do one, and even one helps out (there's a lot left). I know you guys know the setting as well as I do, so come on, lets make this a group effort.

#28

zombiegleemax

Jan 21, 2006 12:18:24

Why are you doing all this work? As a fan of that anything can be adapted to any world, you can adapt any prc to krynn. Just do it on a case by case basis with your players.

#29

karui_kage

Jan 21, 2006 18:44:04

Well, as I said in my first post, it's not a matter of adapting anything to Krynn, it's adapting prestige classes to it that wouldn't require much change.

Take a look at some of the prestige classes that have No said to them above, for example. Anything involving Orcs. To use them would require Orcs put back into the setting, and that's a bit more change than I'd like.

I'm mostly doing this for my own game, but also (as I plan to put it up on the Nexus) for any DMs doing Dragonlance that would like a quick and simple list of prestige classes to reference when players ask, that wouldn't require much change to the world.

#30

caeruleus

Jan 28, 2006 15:19:41

Dread Pirate
Availability: Yes
Changes: None
Place in Dragonlance: Minotaurs and Ergothians could certainly take this prestige class. It could be an alternative to the mariner, if you want certain characters to be a little different.

Mage of the Arcane Order
Availability: No
Changes: N/A
Place in Dragonlance: The only order is the Wizards of High Sorcery, and they have their own prestige class. There's no spellpool on Ansalon anyway.

Holy Liberator
Availability: Maybe
Changes: Have spellcasting be due to mysticism. Give a few spells known per level, and spontaneous spellcasting.
Place in Dragonlance: Perhaps members of the Legion of Steel could take this prestige class, and use some of the abilities to help liberate people from the dragon overlords and Knights of Neraka. So it should only be available in the Fifth Age.

#31

caeruleus

Jan 28, 2006 15:24:40

By the way, nice project you got here. I agree with Dragonhelm, something like this should be on the Nexus.

#32

karui_kage

Jan 29, 2006 15:19:29

Thanks for the compliment, and Im glad someone new was able to contribute. :D

I was a little worried that this project was dying, so am glad to see new life brought into it. Though I wouldn't mind doing all the prestiges, it seemed a little silly to have it be just two people (originally myself and Morte), when my hopes was that everyone's ideas would be contributed. As I know there are things I definitely don't think of that others do.

That said, thanks again for your contribution. Now that there's a little new blood in it (which it was updated with), I'll put in a couple more for one of the books in a bit, probably three or so. I don't want it to be saturated with my submissions or anything.

#33

zombiegleemax

Feb 08, 2006 20:39:28

Alienist
Availability: Extremely Rare
Changes: Replace "Far Realms" with the "Ethereal Sea" (aka. "Beyond")
Place in Dragonlance: Perhaps some crazed sorcerors during the early Age of Mortals made contact with strange beings from outside of Krynn's normal experience, ie. beings who previously could not penetrate the protections the gods had put up but with both the gods and the normal planes missing from Krynn they can now access the world. Plus Krynn is now in some remote place in the universe (relative to its original place) so who knows what lies out here?

#34

aravanus

Feb 15, 2006 14:46:41

I haven't been to the forums in a while, so I hadn't see your thread until now. I would love to help out (and this seems like a marginally worthwile project :P ), however I don't have any of my books with me (as I am currently at school). Nevertheless, I should begin to start making additions over the next week. Furthermore, would you like me to start adding PrC from other 3.5 books, such as BoVD and BoED, as someone earlier mentioned?

#35

karui_kage

Feb 16, 2006 3:18:01

I'd love the assistance, I was afraid this was starting (or already had) gone dead.

As for other books, I think it'd be great to have them eventually, but it may be best to finish these up first before adding more work to the list, so I at least have something initially complete to submit to the Nexus, and my players. ;)