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#1 jon_oracle_of_athas Jan 19, 2006 5:48:16	This thread is for suggestions for the advanced being elemental prestige class's name. Some suggestions: Athasian Element Elemental Lord Advanced Elemental True Elemental
#2 zombiegleemax Jan 19, 2006 5:59:18	Mmmm, possibly Elementalist or The Devoted, the latter as it reflects the priests devotion and permanent dedication of their life to the elements.
#3 elonarc Jan 19, 2006 6:27:31	Elemental Legate Elemental Ascendant (not Ascendent)
#4 master_ivan Jan 19, 2006 6:43:32	Master Elemental
#5 Sysane Jan 19, 2006 6:45:30	Divine Elemental or Primordial
#6 megatherion Jan 19, 2006 7:00:10	The Element [of ...] Elemancer Servant of the Element Sacred Elementalus (Elementali?) Elemental Conduiter (needs rephrasing) Elemental Empoweree (also needs rephrasing?) Divine Elemental Champion (huh, almost sounds like "Paladin")
#7 taotad Jan 19, 2006 7:20:05	Antroposoph Possible definition of Antroposophy is knowledge of elementals. Here is another possible definition. Search for element and you will find the singular form of element to be Elementum. Also a lot of history connected to western understanding of Elementals.
#8 kalthandrix Jan 19, 2006 7:28:08	Well sorry to say this but Old English has failed me- I could not find a single word or pairing of words to come up with something that was a) cool and b) pronounceable in the OE websites that I know about. Of all the ones proposed so far, I would have to say that my pic would have to be for Elemental Ascendant.
#9 nytcrawlr Jan 19, 2006 9:00:01	Elemental Ascendant. Yeah, I'm starting to warm up to that one too. Though I still think I like Elemental Prime for pure nostalgia reasons. :D
#10 zombiegleemax Jan 19, 2006 9:31:20	Elemental Ascendant (not Ascendent) That does have a good ring to it
#11 jon_oracle_of_athas Jan 19, 2006 9:31:30	Elementalist is already a prestige class and Master Elemental is too close to the Master Elementalist prestige class.
#12 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Jan 19, 2006 9:46:53	As much as I think Elemental Prime might be interesting, it's too similar to Primal Elemental. I still propose Elemental Prince (as in Principle, Primary, or "Prime") -- which would be gender-neutral. A possibility to look into -- certain Pagan rites refer to the four Elements, maybe digging through books related to that (or someone who has personal experience) could provide other words than Element/Elemental to use? Wiktionary: Element
#13 huntercc Jan 19, 2006 9:48:16	Yeah, I'm starting to warm up to that one too. Though I still think I like Elemental Prime for pure nostalgia reasons. :D Agreed, on both counts :D
#14 kalthandrix Jan 19, 2006 9:49:02	As much as I think Elemental Prime might be interesting, it's too similar to Primal Elemental. I still propose Elemental Prince (as in Principle, Primary, or "Prime") -- which would be gender-neutral. That title I see more for the Lords of the Elemental Planes then for clerics who become an elemental AB's.
#15 Sysane Jan 19, 2006 9:49:45	Was "Elemorph" already thrown out there as an idea?
#16 zombiegleemax Jan 19, 2006 11:57:42	mumble..... "First of" will be nice ..... Aron First of Fire, "Primarch" ..... Aron Primarch of Fire, This will be a little eretic, but what if we use the hierarky of the djiin or the one of the Effriti?
#17 zombiegleemax Jan 19, 2006 13:23:46	Primalist? the elements being the primal forces of the universe and all...
#18 jon_oracle_of_athas Jan 19, 2006 14:28:40	How about one of the four suggestions in the beginning of the thread?
#19 nytcrawlr Jan 19, 2006 15:31:29	How about one of the four suggestions in the beginning of the thread? Out of those four I think True Element is about as good as it's going to get, heh.
#20 Oninotaki Jan 19, 2006 15:51:51	I am fond of Primordial, but if I got to go with one of the 4 from the 1st post then Athasian Element it is.
#21 bengeldorn Jan 19, 2006 16:14:28	This just came into my mind.... Elemental's Godchild Edit: Another thought: Godchild of [element] For example: Godchild of Fire, Godchild of the Sun, or Godchild of Rain....
#22 megatherion Jan 19, 2006 16:33:35	No way there's gonna be an agreement on this thread anytime soon. I sugest a poll. List 10 or so of the most interesting ones and let's go.
#23 ruhl-than_sage Jan 19, 2006 17:42:58	No way there's gonna be an agreement on this thread anytime soon. I sugest a poll. List 10 or so of the most interesting ones and let's go. Who gets to decide which ones are the most interesting ones?
#24 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Jan 19, 2006 17:54:02	We could always let the brainstorming happen now, then let people vote for their top 5, from that, form a poll of the top 10 choices for people to pick, and then use the top pick from that.
#25 ruhl-than_sage Jan 19, 2006 17:55:23	Out of those four I think True Element is about as good as it's going to get, heh. But, they aren't a true element now are they? They are more like a false element, because they started off as a creature (probably humaniod) and became an elemental. Out of those have to say I like Elemental Lord the best, but honestly I like some of the other sugestions a lot better. Elemental Ascendant (because they've ascended to the level of an elemental) Primordial (The only good one word suggestion I've seen so far [yes including my own]) Elemental Scion (Inheritor of elemental power) Element Incarnate (Because they are the embodied form of an element.)
#26 nytcrawlr Jan 19, 2006 18:18:05	Out of those have to say I like Elemental Lord the best Sounds too much like the things that actually run the inner planes to me, and the rest are just too simple IMO, that's why I went with True Element. I'd rather pick something off the initial list of four too, like Elemental Ascendent, or something else cool that comes along.
#27 lyric Jan 20, 2006 0:54:10	But, they aren't a true element now are they? They are more like a false element, because they started off as a creature (probably humaniod) and became an elemental. Out of those have to say I like Elemental Lord the best, but honestly I like some of the other sugestions a lot better. Elemental Ascendant (because they've ascended to the level of an elemental) Primordial (The only good one word suggestion I've seen so far [yes including my own]) Elemental Scion (Inheritor of elemental power) Element Incarnate (Because they are the embodied form of an element.) Those are good I'd go with one of those five. Probably in that order too, though it's a toughy to choose between Scion and Ascendant. Edit: Maybe Primordial Ascendant? :D
#28 jon_oracle_of_athas Jan 20, 2006 1:09:46	Ultimately, the Epic bureau decides. This thread will serve as a brainstorming thread. The thread vote + poll process Xlorep describes seems excessive.
#29 darksoulman Jan 20, 2006 1:57:27	Elemental Ascendant (because they've ascended to the level of an elemental) Primordial (The only good one word suggestion I've seen so far [yes including my own]) Elemental Scion (Inheritor of elemental power) Element Incarnate (Because they are the embodied form of an element.) I like all of those apart from Primordial, which means something besides the elemental part: "Primordial: adj. Primordial is used to describe things that have existed from a very early period of time or since the beginning of the world" True, the elements have existed since the beginning...but not the advanced being itself, which the Primordial name indicates to me. My favorite would definitely be Elemental Ascendant, followed by Incarnate and Scion.
#30 Sysane Jan 20, 2006 8:39:07	I like all of those apart from Primordial, which means something besides the elemental part: "Primordial: adj. Primordial is used to describe things that have existed from a very early period of time or since the beginning of the world" True, the elements have existed since the beginning...but not the advanced being itself, which the Primordial name indicates to me.. True in that they didn't exist in the beginning, but the meaning would indicate that they are trying to emulate a form from a long ago age. There's also this definition for primordial: "Belonging to or characteristic of the earliest stage of development of an organism or a part." Whats earlier than belonging to one of the four basic elements of creation? Primordial doesn't necessarily have to be a stand alone name either. Any of the numerous two word Elemental title could be tagged to it as well. Primordial Scion Primordial Savant Primordial Lord Primordial Ascendant
#31 huntercc Jan 20, 2006 9:02:58	So far I think I like Elemental Ascendant the best. Primordial just sounds too.... primordial :P
#32 Sysane Jan 20, 2006 9:06:04	So far I think I like Elemental Ascendant the best. Primordial just sounds too.... primordial :P I'm just not a fan of the "Elemental" part of the title. Its been over used in the naming of PrCs IMO. ;)
#33 nytcrawlr Jan 20, 2006 9:06:56	Primordial Ascendant Boom! I think we have our weiner!
#34 huntercc Jan 20, 2006 9:27:12	Force of Nature?
#35 Sysane Jan 20, 2006 9:30:58	Force of Nature? Reminds of of Magic the Gathering CCG ;)
#36 Pennarin Jan 20, 2006 9:40:54	Seems the strong contenders are... Elemental Ascendant Primordial Ascendant True Elemental I cast my vote for Elemental Ascendant.
#37 huntercc Jan 20, 2006 9:48:38	Reminds of of Magic the Gathering CCG ;) yeah, that would be my only hesitation
#38 nytcrawlr Jan 20, 2006 9:52:09	Reminds of of Magic the Gathering CCG ;) Heh, one of the better green critters during its time.
#39 xanthus Jan 20, 2006 11:50:45	Of the ones currently suggested, I'm enjoying the "Elemental Ascendant", "Elemental Scion" and "Primordial Ascendant". Apparently I also want to throw more confusion into the mix, and suggest "Elemental Primarch". I dunno, I just really like the ring of it. Cheers, -X
#40 Sysane Jan 20, 2006 11:56:36	Apparently I also want to throw more confusion into the mix, and suggest "Elemental Primarch". I dunno, I just really like the ring of it. Hmmmm...thats not bad.
#41 zombiegleemax Jan 21, 2006 11:10:15	my vote is for Primordial Ascendant
#42 squidfur- Jan 21, 2006 21:25:38	The only one even catching my interest is Elemental Ascendant.
#43 jackmojo Jan 23, 2006 23:38:33	Of the ones already covered I like Primordial best, but here's a few other that occurred to me: Elemental Sovereign (although this along with all the 'Elemental X' ones I imagine better as Magma Sovereign or Solar Ascendant etc... and I'm gonna suggest my others in that style where I think it sounds cool) Primal Essence Demi-elemental (ala the old demi lich, better then normal lich ) Omega Elemental (yay more transformer sounding ideas!) Earth Majestic Fire Paragon Imperator Silt Tyrant Solar Exemplar Magma Apotheosis My apologies if I restated anyone elses in my ramblings if so credit to the appropriate originator...hmmm Ocean Originator...Nah Jack
#44 kalthandrix Jan 24, 2006 6:19:28	The only one even catching my interest is Elemental Ascendant. Yep- thats really the only one for me too at this point.
#45 master_ivan Jan 24, 2006 7:35:28	I like "Elemental Lord" & "Elemental Ascendant" both are strong and to the point.
#46 ruhl-than_sage Jan 24, 2006 9:04:04	Sounds like elemental ascendant is the strongest contender. After looking back through the thread it looks like a number of people are only interested in that one and a total of 12 people expressed there approval of it as follows: Master Ivan (1/2 Vote, whatever that means.) Kalthandrix (Decided Vote) Nytcrawler Pennarin (Decided Vote) Ruhl-Than Sage (Decided Vote) Bell Squidfur (Decided Vote) Xanthus Huntercc (Most Favored) Darksoulman Lyric Elonarc (Decided Vote) Peace Bringer (Decided Vote) Correct me if I'm wrong. I officially add my vote for elemental ascendant.
#47 master_ivan Jan 24, 2006 12:46:24	I'll give 1/2 a vote to each, you have to admit that elemental lord is pretty cool
#48 elonarc Jan 24, 2006 13:22:35	You can make my vote a decided one (and spell my name right). I should vote for Elemental Ascendant since I brought it up in post #3 after all.
#49 nytcrawlr Jan 24, 2006 14:03:23	(and spell my name right) Apparently spelling is the Sage's weakness. :D
#50 kalthandrix Jan 24, 2006 18:10:22	I'll give 1/2 a vote to each, you have to admit that elemental lord is pretty cool Come on man!!! You can't do a half vote- what are you, Swedish? :D I'm neutral! I'm neutral! :P Just having some fun with you Ivan.
#51 master_ivan Jan 24, 2006 18:20:20	Come on man!!! You can't do a half vote- what are you, Swedish? :D I'm neutral! I'm neutral! :P Just having some fun with you Ivan. Yeah they have trouble doing anything but neutral, they probably drive in neutral too :D ...nah I'm from Iceland ;)
#52 ruhl-than_sage Jan 24, 2006 21:47:35	Double post.
#53 ruhl-than_sage Jan 24, 2006 21:48:46	I'm slightly Lexdysic :P No seriously, its not that I'm a bad speller, I'm just a little dyslexic. I actually didn't realize when I made my screen name, that it was 'thuan' rather then 'than'.
#54 the_peacebringer Jan 25, 2006 12:07:14	You can put me in for the Elemental Ascendant; sounds good.