Bought the RCS pdf - What is the dead lands?

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#1

zombiegleemax

Feb 01, 2006 9:11:53
Bought the RCS pdf - Where is my world map?

I take I do not get one, that sucks - So where can I get a good one?

I know this thread cropped up a bit back, but I want one with cities etc. marked on it like the FR maps...

Edit: What is the Dead lands and where can I find out about it?
#2

nytcrawlr

Feb 01, 2006 9:40:46
Hmmmm, the world map should be part of the pdf, at least it was with mine.
#3

Grummore

Feb 01, 2006 9:42:08
It is. It's just because there is no tag in the bookmark. Just scroll down all the pdf and they are down there.
#4

zombiegleemax

Feb 01, 2006 9:50:30
Thx, Where is Draj on that map (not seeing it) - nvm
#5

Grummore

Feb 01, 2006 10:14:01
Thx, Where is Draj on that map (not seeing it) - nvm

Follow the road that start at Altaruk and goes East following the Silt sea. You will run in Raam then Draj.
#6

zombiegleemax

Feb 01, 2006 10:30:45
Thank you so much, now I just got done reading through page 37 and have yet to find a refrence to the dead lands, also a searh on the PDF turned up nothing.

Where will I find it?
#7

xlorepdarkhelm_dup

Feb 01, 2006 11:32:26
Thank you so much, now I just got done reading through page 37 and have yet to find a refrence to the dead lands, also a searh on the PDF turned up nothing.

Where will I find it?

The Deadlands were to be revealed in an expansion book that was never released, however Athas.org does have what was done up to the point TSR died, and the permission to release the materials. I always get the name wrong for some reason, but I want to say it's "Secrets of the Deadlands" or something like that, that and "Dregoth Ascending" were the two books that were never released but were intended to have been released by TSR, and were somewhat complete, more or less, when TSR crashed & burned.

For maps, check my website, I have all of cyrus9a's maps from his site darksunrising.info, which that site is being shut down, as cyrus9a unfortunately had passed away due to a car accident a little while back. He made a couple rather high-detail maps, of a rather unique style, of the Tablelands and Jagged Cliffs region, which actually have everything on them that is referenced in the books, unlike the maps from the old 2e materials which were occasionally lacking a site or three.
#8

zombiegleemax

Feb 01, 2006 11:51:06
Does secrets of the deadlands detail what they are and what caused them (website blocked at work)
#9

Pennarin

Feb 01, 2006 12:06:37
Does secrets of the deadlands detail what they are and what caused them (website blocked at work)

Yes, but you can check it all out in the Timeline:

160th King's Age (-2,310)

-Desert's Reverence

The First Sorcerer orders the defiler Qwith to explore the workings of the Inner Planes as a possible means of power.

161st King's Age (-2,233)

-Ral's Fury

Infuriated at her lack of progress, Rajaat turns research of the Inner Planes over to Qwith's subordinates. Shortly after an accident of unknown origins opens a gate to the Inner Planes, and obsidian flows across the land for hundreds of miles in each dir ection until the gate is closed by the Seventh Tree. Thousands die in the disaster.

Those killed by obsidian rise as undead through a mysterious power from the Inner Planes. Rajaat's servants arise as the rulers of this land, becoming powerful thinking undead wizards and psionicists. The Dead Lands are born.

-Silt's Agitation

All life across the obsidian plain is obliterated except for the Seventh Tree, which becomes immune to defiling magic. Soon after the undead defiler Gretch discovers necromantic magic to replace the loss of defiling magic. Necromancer magic is born.

#10

xlorepdarkhelm_dup

Feb 01, 2006 12:08:41
Does secrets of the deadlands detail what they are and what caused them (website blocked at work)

I almost want to say that some of that information is in the official timeline -- the Deadlands is a region completely covered in obsidian (the terrain is called "obsidian plains") that reaches for many, many miles. There is a Tree of Life there, which mroe or less is the last bastion of the living in the region. It was caused by one of Rajaat's magical experiments, which he delegated to a group of wizards who were doing some sort of research on the inner planes, and accidentally opened a portal directly to the quasielemental plane of obsidian. The obsidian poured out from the portal, and killed everything in its wake as it filled the region with the black volcanic glass. Those killed did not remain dead, and rose as entire nations of undead. These creatures believe the entirety of Athas to be covered in obsidian, filled with other creatures like themselves, and do not bother with going beyond their own region (if they only knew what there was beyond the Deadlands!) There is a schism that divides the undead into two major factions -- the insectoid beings are all known as "bugdead" -- and dominate the southern regions of the Deadlands, work almost hive-like and are at war with the non-bugdead of the northern regions of the Deadlands, who have developed a more feudal society.

I can't remember if the gate has finally been sealed shut or not...I want to say that it still is technically open, but just more or less "clogged". Even so, I want to say that the Deadlands are very slowly expanding its' radius, and is currently stopped only because of a natural basin that it happens to be in.
#11

zombiegleemax

Feb 01, 2006 12:35:24
Wow thats cool, anywhere in the RCS I can read more?
#12

xlorepdarkhelm_dup

Feb 01, 2006 12:57:59
Wow thats cool, anywhere in the RCS I can read more?

I don't think so. I have a feeling I actually wrote some of the info, in a summarized fashion, that was from the Secrets of the Deadlands manuscript... what I can remember. I may have also embellished on some of the ideas (it was a long time ago when I had looked at that text very briefly), but mainly the Deadlands is one of the projects Athas.org is working on releasing. Like with everything else from Athas.org, patience is a virtue. But odds are high that it will be well worth the wait.
#13

zombiegleemax

Feb 01, 2006 14:07:54
...odds are high that it will be well worth the wait.

I am sure it will be!
#14

Grummore

Feb 01, 2006 14:20:16
I don't think so. I have a feeling I actually wrote some of the info, in a summarized fashion, that was from the Secrets of the Deadlands manuscript... what I can remember. I may have also embellished on some of the ideas (it was a long time ago when I had looked at that text very briefly), but mainly the Deadlands is one of the projects Athas.org is working on releasing. Like with everything else from Athas.org, patience is a virtue. But odds are high that it will be well worth the wait.

You have have at the unofficial take of the deadlands by Gerard Lewis, it's on my web site in the accessories section. It's a very nice reading.
#15

jon_oracle_of_athas

Feb 01, 2006 15:30:29
Expect Secrets of the Deadlands to be released in the first half of 2006, if everything goes as planned.
#16

kalthandrix

Feb 01, 2006 18:10:02
Expect Secrets of the Deadlands to be released in the first half of 2006, if everything goes as planned.

Any chance of getting my morterren asp in there
#17

jon_oracle_of_athas

Feb 02, 2006 1:05:38
Any chance of getting my morterren asp in there

It would be a candidate for Terrors of the Deadlands, but I'm not involved on TotD - I think that product is pretty much nailed. Gab/Kam/Nate?
#18

Kamelion

Feb 02, 2006 3:32:11
It would be a candidate for Terrors of the Deadlands, but I'm not involved on TotD - I think that product is pretty much nailed. Gab/Kam/Nate?

Yeah, we are more or less done with TotDL. There should be maybe one more set of minor edits to the thing, but those would be so minor that I wouldn't even consider scheduling it anytime soon. Errata feedback on the latest release was very slim, so I think we indeed pretty much nailed it.

That said, there have been a couple of suggestions of this type over the last year or so regarding the addition of monsters submitted by the community. So it's something to keep in mind. If the opportunity arises to add anything in the future, I'll be sure to let interested parties know .
#19

kalthandrix

Feb 02, 2006 6:19:42
Sweet- because you know it IS the coolest living thing in the Dead Lands :D
#20

jon_oracle_of_athas

Feb 02, 2006 16:22:29
Sweet- because you know it IS the coolest living thing in the Dead Lands

No it isn't, there's a cooler living thing in the Dead Lands.
#21

kalthandrix

Feb 02, 2006 16:36:40
No it isn't, there's a cooler living thing in the Dead Lands.

Really- well I do not know what it is and since I have not acknowledged its exitisitance then I do not think it really exists yet. :D

Are you dropping a clue of something that is in Secrets?
#22

Kamelion

Feb 02, 2006 18:51:17
Are you dropping a clue of something that is in Secrets?

Nah, you're barking up the wrong tree there... ;)
#23

Pennarin

Feb 02, 2006 18:56:28
I'd say this conversation is rather wooden. Can we return to the main subject?
#24

xlorepdarkhelm_dup

Feb 03, 2006 10:45:10
Nah, you're barking up the wrong tree there... ;)

Bah, Kam. If you're not going to tell us, then just leaf us alone.
#25

elonarc

Feb 03, 2006 15:29:20
Bah, Kam. If you're not going to tell us, then just leaf us alone.

Wow, xlorep. I bow before this showmanship of good bad humor. IMAGE(http://www.elk-x.de/forum/images/smiles/flehan.gif)