Who is the best dark sun author?

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#1

zombiegleemax

Feb 15, 2006 11:16:03
I have played a few video games using the dark sun world, and I want to read some of the novels, but i do not know which book to buy, suggestions, please.
#2

Sysane

Feb 15, 2006 11:18:51
Might as go with the novel's written by one of the creators of the world,Troy Denning.
#3

zombiegleemax

Feb 15, 2006 11:23:26
Thank you for your sugesstion, but i know nothing about dark sun, almost, and it would help if you identified one book or series.
#4

Sysane

Feb 15, 2006 11:43:25
Thank you for your sugesstion, but i know nothing about dark sun, almost, and it would help if you identified one book or series.

The Prism Pentad by Troy Denning.
#5

xlorepdarkhelm_dup

Feb 15, 2006 11:48:14
Thank you for your sugesstion, but i know nothing about dark sun, almost, and it would help if you identified one book or series.

Athas.org has a listing of all of the novels, if memory serves.
#6

Pennarin

Feb 15, 2006 12:29:46
salvatorefan, you can begin reading the Dark Sun line of novels (there are 13 total) from the very first novel of the main series of books.

The Prism Pentad series of book begins with The Verdant Passage, then follows The Crimson Legion, The Amber Enchantress, The Obsidian Orcale, and finally The Cerulean Storm.

Then there's another series called The Chronicles of Athas. Its a missmatch of many novels and authors, but 3 novels stand out because they're written by the same author, chronologically follow each other, and describe the adventures of the same character. Those 3 novels are The Brazen Gambit, Cinnabar Shadows, and The Rise and Fall of a Dragon King.

Now for the less interesting books:

A trilogy called The Tribe of One. I actually liked reading them, at first, then got bored with the character, and eventually understood that its content is only feebly Dark Sun-ish.

In the same series as The Chronicles of Athas is a follow-up novel to the events of The Tribe of One trilogy, called The Broken Blade. A stand alone novel is The Darkness Before Dawn: some of it is good and some of it's weird.

You can easily limit your reading to the Prism Pentad series and the three novels The Brazen Gambit, Cinnabar Shadows, and The Rise and Fall of a Dragon King.
Good reading!
#7

dirk00001

Feb 15, 2006 13:21:55
Definitely read the Prism Pentad novels (mentioned above). Those are all I have/had read, mostly because from everything I hear the others are either way off track, or have enough "questionable" material (as far as being canon Dark Sun is concerned) that if you're going to use them as source(s) for a DS game you need to be careful. Rise and Fall of a Dragon King, for instance - IIRC I've read other posts on this board about how even the author was given very little info from TSR to go off of when writing it, and so some parts don't necessarily jive with the game world.
#8

kalthandrix

Feb 15, 2006 13:35:44
Definitely read the Prism Pentad novels (mentioned above). Those are all I have/had read, mostly because from everything I hear the others are either way off track, or have enough "questionable" material (as far as being canon Dark Sun is concerned) that if you're going to use them as source(s) for a DS game you need to be careful. Rise and Fall of a Dragon King, for instance - IIRC I've read other posts on this board about how even the author was given very little info from TSR to go off of when writing it, and so some parts don't necessarily jive with the game world.

For the most part RaFoaDK is a good read- right up to the last chapter and then you get a brick wall of stupid IMO.

I personally liked the Hawke books thought he did an interesting job with them. The one book I really did not like was Darkness before the Dawn- the book went no where and dod nothing for me personally.
#9

darkkhaine

Feb 15, 2006 15:01:14
ive read the prism pentad which was a great series until the last book where the climatic ending was kinda out in left field compared to the rest of the books. I also read the tribe of one which I disliked cause the main character was way too "drizzt" for me.
#10

dirk00001

Feb 15, 2006 16:00:42
For the most part RaFoaDK is a good read- right up to the last chapter and then you get a brick wall of stupid IMO.

Guess I'll have to pick it up, then. I have heard that it was a good read...I just have enough trouble deciding between the various versions of DS history/rules/etc. that already conflict that if I'd probably go into a coma if I read a really good, yet once again contradictory, version of it all. ;)

ive read the prism pentad which was a great series until the last book where the climatic ending was kinda out in left field compared to the rest of the books. I also read the tribe of one which I disliked cause the main character was way too "drizzt" for me.

Yeah, the ending was sorta strange...felt rushed, and since I can't read RPG-based novels without thinking about the game mechanics that would have been involved in them that made it worse. (But that's just my OCD kicking in)
Plus, let's face it; given how long Rajaat had to plot his revenge, it sure seemed spur-of-the-moment when he finally had the chance. There should have been entire chapters devoted to the intricate punishments he bestowed upon the traitors...even given the relatively short time period he had to deal them out.
#11

zombiegleemax

Feb 15, 2006 16:33:26
For the most part RaFoaDK is a good read- right up to the last chapter and then you get a brick wall of stupid IMO.

That is quite possibly the most accurate review of the book that I have ever seen. :D

I still don't know what to think about her take on Kalak, though... sometimes I like it, but sometimes it just seems a little "meh."
#12

xlorepdarkhelm_dup

Feb 15, 2006 16:52:03
That is quite possibly the most accurate review of the book that I have ever seen. :D

I still don't know what to think about her take on Kalak, though... sometimes I like it, but sometimes it just seems a little "meh."

Bear in mind, many of the little inaccuracies in that book are due to some serious communication breakdowns happening during the death of TSR.
#13

zombiegleemax

Feb 15, 2006 18:13:16
Bear in mind, many of the little inaccuracies in that book are due to some serious communication breakdowns happening during the death of TSR.

Yeah, that was my understanding as well... I just remember reading that sentence or two for the first time when I was like 14 (obviously I didn't know about the communication problems at TSR then) and thinking "WTF." I meant to say that I like the (definitely non-canon) idea that was presented regarding Kalak, but I also like the idea of him being a Champion. Obviously, those two ideas are mutually exclusive... so I have been back and forth over the years as to which one I personally like more.
#14

Pennarin

Feb 15, 2006 18:21:28
Oh for cow's sake! Let the man make his choice without dealing with canon and such. Rise and Fall is perfectly readable on the level of the DS flavor, characterisation, and probably other levels I don't even know of, and the original poster may not even notice the canon discripencies unless you point them to him. I don't even think it compares to the Tribe of One trilogy, and not because of canon discripencies but because of the goodly hero type it presents, the Living Legend syndrome, which renders the main character unpalatable.

/end of rant :D
#15

Zardnaar

Feb 15, 2006 22:02:43
I liked the Lynn Abbey ones the best. The Prism Pentad is OK and I enjoyed it while younger. Once I reread it It does have some issues.

1. There no main hero. While not a bad thing I don't really care for any of the main characters which are basically stereotypes with very little personality. Rikus= big dumb tough guy. Sadira= token hot elven (1/2 elf) chick who likes sex. Tithian = typical traitorous villain. Yawn. Some of the minor characters were more interesting.

2. Kinda disjointed. Often theres several years between each book which tends to focus on one character. Also they tend to skip around alot switching between characters or they tend to minimise travel time for example. One chapter they're in Tyr, the next near the Ivory Salt for example.

3. The ending is somewhat anticlimatic. The Dragon goes out with a whimper (ooze?) really.
#16

Pennarin

Feb 15, 2006 23:10:58
Zardnaar mentions something important relative to the DS novels, in that some of them were not written for mature adult audiences, either intentionnaly or because the author was inexperienced.
I'd put the Prism Pentad in the inexperienced category (also Denning may have been aiming too low on the age scale with it), the Tribe of One in the intentionnaly written for less mature audiences category, and the Abbey books in the mature category.
#17

Zardnaar

Feb 16, 2006 2:44:37
Well a few of the old TSR authors have improved with age. Early Drizzt books were great at 16 but average now while the later ones like Path of Darkness series are some of the best IMHO. Apparently Lynn Abbey also wrote some of the best Magic the Gathering novels as well- the Urza series but I haven't read them.

Last Troy Denning book I read was a Star Wars one Star by Star which was better than some of the other New Jedi order books and the PP.