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#1 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Apr 12, 2006 13:09:14	Here's a fun link I had found online. Wow... remember when there was such an outcry against Dungeons & Dragons? And now they are focused on video games... Anyway, better make this relevant to Dark Sun somehow, or else this thread will disappear. Hmm... I know -- I wonder how the old anti-roleplaying movement would have responded to the notion that in Dark Sun, it doesn't actually promote false worship of gods, since... there are no gods on Athas?
#2 kalthandrix Apr 12, 2006 13:19:43	OMG- that was the dumbest stuff I have ever read in my life!
#3 zombiegleemax Apr 12, 2006 13:22:30	Oh, yeah; Jack Chick. What makes this even funnier is I'm listening to Motorhead's Bad Religion. :D
#4 Kamelion Apr 12, 2006 13:49:54	24 years and I'm still waiting for someone to teach me how to get the real power. I guess I just don't have the personality for it. Bah. Gaming is a big con, if you ask me. I want my mind bondage spell!
#5 zombiegleemax Apr 12, 2006 13:54:58	24 years and I'm still waiting for someone to teach me how to get the real power. I guess I just don't have the personality for it. Bah. Gaming is a big con, if you ask me. I want my mind bondage spell! Maybe if we formed our own coven... :D
#6 terminus_vortexa Apr 12, 2006 14:25:50	You owe me $300 for the ambulance ride I had to take after I busted a gut laughing at that site, Xlorep! :D I'm Christian, but I think people who actually believe that D&D does THAT to people are almost as crazy as the whacko cultists in that comic.
#7 elonarc Apr 12, 2006 14:43:14	Great link, Xlorep! I already knew it, but it makes me laugh again and again. One of my friends found this on a Jehova's Witnesses website translated into German. They translated the word "Dungeon Master" with "Herrscher des Verlieses" (Master/Ruler of the Dungeon), which is totally not the word we use in German. But my playgroup only refers to me as the "Herrscher des Verlieses" or short HdV now... Yes, and every once in a while when a PC gains a level, the player asks "Will you now teach me how to use real power?!
#8 huntercc Apr 12, 2006 14:48:26	lol I thought that was just some kind of joke, until I got to the bottom and read all the propaganda rofl
#9 methvezem Apr 12, 2006 15:53:35	I wonder why they use comic strips as propaganda, isn't that a tool of Satan too? Good thing I'm not good at making knots too ;) The strip come directly from when the inquisition against D&D raged, having being copyrighted in 1984.
#10 Pennarin Apr 12, 2006 17:15:30	I've been warned by a WizO to leave Chick alone, not mention them or link to them. For good reasons when you think about it: the crazies don't need more hits on their website and more notoriety. I wish our WizO were as vigilent...hint hint
#11 terminus_vortexa Apr 12, 2006 17:33:34	They must be in the Jehovah's Witness Protection Program! On that note, I'll let it die........
#12 nytcrawlr Apr 12, 2006 17:44:04	Ah back in the good ol days when my over protected mother (and still somewhat sane at the time) use to call over at my friend's house where we gamed and when she asked what we were doing the countless jokes about sacrificing some poor animal would always come about. I miss those days. :D
#13 the_peacebringer Apr 13, 2006 15:10:21	I had always just heard about things like that... Man, this is just weird (I sort of felt queasy), and could even be scary for some people (but I guess that's the point). And don't get me wrong, I know many women play the game, but isn't this message saying that only girls are influenced by the evil of roleplaying? Anyways, I'm sure glad I never had Ms. Frost DMing at our table. :D
#14 ruhl-than_sage Apr 13, 2006 18:21:46	You should read what those guys say about Islam :D , Then consider if you could assert the same (or very similar things) about Christianity.
#15 cnahumck Apr 13, 2006 18:56:01	You should read what those guys say about Islam :D , Then consider if you could assert the same (or very similar things) about Christianity. While I know that this board is not the place for religious discussions, especially because Athas has no gods, I just want to say that many people out there who are manipulative and underhanded like to take religion and use it against people in ways that go against central teachings of that religion. Whether it is fundamentalist Islam, Judeism, or Christianity, misusing any religion is just wrong. I am attending seminary and a school of social work, earning two masters degrees. These people are missing the point of religion. It is to create health community (like these boards do) that allows people to find meaning in there life. Trampling on Hope, and reducing peoples lives to "you are bad because you don't follow our rules" is dangerous. Spirituality is supposed to give hope meaning and purpose, not exlusion and hatred... Rant finished... hoping no one takes offense. Just feel the need to defend Christianity from certain groups within Christianity who don't represent the way the vast majority of Christians feel.
#16 master_ivan Apr 13, 2006 20:16:40	While I know that this board is not the place for religious discussions, especially because Athas has no gods, I just want to say that many people out there who are manipulative and underhanded like to take religion and use it against people in ways that go against central teachings of that religion. Whether it is fundamentalist Islam, Judeism, or Christianity, misusing any religion is just wrong. I am attending seminary and a school of social work, earning two masters degrees. These people are missing the point of religion. It is to create health community (like these boards do) that allows people to find meaning in there life. Trampling on Hope, and reducing peoples lives to "you are bad because you don't follow our rules" is dangerous. Spirituality is supposed to give hope meaning and purpose, not exlusion and hatred... Rant finished... hoping no one takes offense. Just feel the need to defend Christianity from certain groups within Christianity who don't represent the way the vast majority of Christians feel. Amen to that! I've had a spiritual experience myself and it's excactly that, it gives me a purpose in my life to trust in my higher power. Not that I want to get into any debate, I just wanted to say that I totally agree with you.
#17 dunsel Apr 14, 2006 7:15:46	I remember this nonsense started after the "Mazes and Monsters" (1982) movie came out, starring Tom Hanks. Actually, it started sooner than that but it hit a zenith shortly after. I have heard it said that computers are demonic; the internet is from satan, music will corrupt you etc. My first D&D game (summer 1981) was after church with my church friends. There was a group of girls (ironically) who begged us not to play because it would turn us to evil. These same girls (all of them) dropped out of school and church because they got involved with drugs and got pregnant. I guess boys turned them to evil. We too, made fun of people and joked about the sacrificing of animals because we knew it would freak people out. We had one girl convinced we had to sacrifice before each game! She believed it, because she wanted to. She also still hung around (boys again). Most people I have spoken to about this subject have come away with the understanding it is a GAME, nothing more. Some people stick their fingers in their ears and la la la la! Even if confronted with the facts, they refuse to comprehend. The point here is most people are going to be sheep and believe whatever they are told to believe. /steps off of soap box. Connection to Dark Sun...Dark Sun rocks!!!
#18 cmrscorpio Apr 14, 2006 9:34:19	Oh, the memories. I remember when my cleric hit 8th level. I stormed out of my coven when they broke it to me that there really wasn't any magic and that D&D is just make-believe. Shortly after that I killed myself. [/sarcasm]
#19 Pennarin Apr 14, 2006 9:47:20	Yeah, when I learned that the real magic had been over at the school's Buffy Marathon Club all along, I weeped. Never played D&D since. Snif.
#20 jon_oracle_of_athas Apr 14, 2006 11:02:27	The glory of demographics. Ironically, the extreme cases that deviate the most are often the ones that get the most attention.