Racial Substitution levels? - Downloaded from the Wizards Community, all coding removed by Solauren

Racial Substitution levels?

Post/Author/DateTime Post
#1
jackmojo
Apr 16, 2006 14:32:05 Anyone working on Athasian Substitution levels?

Or have any ideas for some that I can steal to make my own.

Even the standard races in Dark Sun seem off kilter enough to require different sub levels then they normally would use, let alone the more Dark Sun specific races.

Jack

EDITED: My personal group includes a Mul Druid, Half-Giant Rogue, and a Thri-kreen Ranger, if anyone has ideas along those lines.
#2
Sysane
Apr 16, 2006 15:59:46
Anyone working on Athasian Substitution levels?

Or have any ideas for some that I can steal to make my own.

Even the standard races in Dark Sun seem off kilter enough to require different sub levels then they normally would use, let alone the more Dark Sun specific races.

Jack

EDITED: My personal group includes a Mul Druid, Half-Giant Rogue, and a Thri-kreen Ranger, if anyone has ideas along those lines.

I've tentively been working on some, but nothing substantial to show though. However, If your looking for something different to add your campaign I suggest using the racial paragons I created located under my signature.
#3
jackmojo
Apr 17, 2006 6:16:17 Those look pretty well balanced, unfortunately the paragon levels are not particularly well thought of in my crew, as they suffer most of the same problems as multiclassing (particularly for casters).

Thanks for the ideas though

Jack
#4
kalthandrix
Apr 17, 2006 7:33:24 What you really want to do is introduce my Keeper of the Guarded Land PrC to your mul druid player! He would rule then! Just check my signature

(I am a pimp )
#5
jackmojo
Apr 17, 2006 8:46:34 Yah I've looked at it before, I think you pimped it to me when I asked for suggestions about some alternative to Elemental Wildshape

Its nice, very flavorful and druidy, but unfortunately the Druid in question is highly nomadic (hell on the sheet he's listsed as a Desert Nomad rather then a druid) so it not really in his line.

Jack
#6
methvezem
Apr 17, 2006 9:07:03 Jack, the only athasian substitiution levels that I can remember are the ones I have done for the slave-warrior, which I also did as a PrC. See the link in my sign. I agree that many DS roles could be filled using substitution levels.
#7
Pennarin
Apr 17, 2006 12:26:53
I agree that many DS roles could be filled using substitution levels.

...which ain't OGC.
#8
Sysane
Apr 17, 2006 13:24:46 Call them racial variant levels (or something to that effect) and you should be in the clear.
#9
jackmojo
Apr 17, 2006 14:57:55 Well since they're for personal use I'll just call 'em house rules and anyone who gripes can go stuff themselves :D

Jack
#10
Sysane
Apr 17, 2006 15:24:53 Has anyone checked out the variant method for playing races with a 1+ ECL in Complete Psionic. It basically allowed the races found in XPH to be played as 1st level characters, but at predetermined levels they would have to take a level in their race and gain some of their races special abilities. Its a mix between subsitution levels and the rules in Savage Species.

Interesting stuff.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 jackmojo Apr 16, 2006 14:32:05	Anyone working on Athasian Substitution levels? Or have any ideas for some that I can steal to make my own. Even the standard races in Dark Sun seem off kilter enough to require different sub levels then they normally would use, let alone the more Dark Sun specific races. Jack EDITED: My personal group includes a Mul Druid, Half-Giant Rogue, and a Thri-kreen Ranger, if anyone has ideas along those lines.
#2 Sysane Apr 16, 2006 15:59:46	Anyone working on Athasian Substitution levels? Or have any ideas for some that I can steal to make my own. Even the standard races in Dark Sun seem off kilter enough to require different sub levels then they normally would use, let alone the more Dark Sun specific races. Jack EDITED: My personal group includes a Mul Druid, Half-Giant Rogue, and a Thri-kreen Ranger, if anyone has ideas along those lines. I've tentively been working on some, but nothing substantial to show though. However, If your looking for something different to add your campaign I suggest using the racial paragons I created located under my signature.
#3 jackmojo Apr 17, 2006 6:16:17	Those look pretty well balanced, unfortunately the paragon levels are not particularly well thought of in my crew, as they suffer most of the same problems as multiclassing (particularly for casters). Thanks for the ideas though Jack
#4 kalthandrix Apr 17, 2006 7:33:24	What you really want to do is introduce my Keeper of the Guarded Land PrC to your mul druid player! He would rule then! Just check my signature (I am a pimp )
#5 jackmojo Apr 17, 2006 8:46:34	Yah I've looked at it before, I think you pimped it to me when I asked for suggestions about some alternative to Elemental Wildshape Its nice, very flavorful and druidy, but unfortunately the Druid in question is highly nomadic (hell on the sheet he's listsed as a Desert Nomad rather then a druid) so it not really in his line. Jack
#6 methvezem Apr 17, 2006 9:07:03	Jack, the only athasian substitiution levels that I can remember are the ones I have done for the slave-warrior, which I also did as a PrC. See the link in my sign. I agree that many DS roles could be filled using substitution levels.
#7 Pennarin Apr 17, 2006 12:26:53	I agree that many DS roles could be filled using substitution levels. ...which ain't OGC.
#8 Sysane Apr 17, 2006 13:24:46	Call them racial variant levels (or something to that effect) and you should be in the clear.
#9 jackmojo Apr 17, 2006 14:57:55	Well since they're for personal use I'll just call 'em house rules and anyone who gripes can go stuff themselves :D Jack
#10 Sysane Apr 17, 2006 15:24:53	Has anyone checked out the variant method for playing races with a 1+ ECL in Complete Psionic. It basically allowed the races found in XPH to be played as 1st level characters, but at predetermined levels they would have to take a level in their race and gain some of their races special abilities. Its a mix between subsitution levels and the rules in Savage Species. Interesting stuff.