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#1
nivek_kpk
Apr 28, 2006 11:49:18 I've heard talk on the boards mentioning DS3 and other such acronyms...whats that all about?
#2
Sysane
Apr 28, 2006 11:51:32
I've heard talk on the boards mentioning DS3 and other such acronyms...whats that all about?

Its short for Dark Sun 3.5. Its referring to the DS 3.5 rules done by the folks at athas.org.
#3
nivek_kpk
Apr 28, 2006 12:00:38 ah, fair enoguh.
#4
nivek_kpk
Apr 28, 2006 14:46:31 Am I correct in assuming that DS3.5 has no set timeframe for any of its stuff?
#5
Sysane
Apr 28, 2006 15:06:31
Am I correct in assuming that DS3.5 has no set timeframe for any of its stuff?

I'm not sure what your asking here. Are you asking when the newest version of the 3.5 rules will be released?
#6
nivek_kpk
Apr 28, 2006 15:10:03 my apologies for a poorly phrased question.

Are the rules from DS3 timeline specific in the Dark Sun universe, or can I use them from the timeline based out of the boxed set from the early 90's and not that crappy 300 years in the future garbage that Dungeon put out
#7
Sysane
Apr 28, 2006 15:26:58
my apologies for a poorly phrased question.

Are the rules from DS3 timeline specific in the Dark Sun universe, or can I use them from the timeline based out of the boxed set from the early 90's and not that crappy 300 years in the future garbage that Dungeon put out

If I'm understanding the question, the answer would be yes. You can use the 3.5 DS rules from athas.org starting Free Year 1 on the Athasian timeline.
#8
zombiegleemax
Apr 28, 2006 15:33:19 The DS3 rules are not the same as the Dungeon mag put out. The DS3 rules are an update of the original D&D2 DarkSun rules or as close as possible with alterations to try to get it to fit the D&D3.5 rules within the guidelines that wizards has given Athas.org
#9
mystictheurge
Apr 28, 2006 15:51:16
If I'm understanding the question, the answer would be yes. You can use the 3.5 DS rules from athas.org starting Free Year 1 on the Athasian timeline.

Or even before!

If you wanted to.
#10
squidfur-
Apr 28, 2006 17:37:42 The rules themselves are AFAIK not necessarily timeline specific. However, we are working with a working timeline for the adventures being released - ie Dregoth Ascending takes place in FY 12 IIRC, as does the Secrets of the Deadlands companion adventure The Emissary IIRC.
#11
Sysane
Apr 28, 2006 17:49:56
Or even before!

If you wanted to.

Not the Blue Age :P ;)
#12
squidfur-
Apr 28, 2006 17:56:56
Not the Blue Age :P ;)

Not the Green Age either for that matter. That's a bit of the problem I've run into.
#13
Sysane
Apr 28, 2006 19:03:03
Not the Green Age either for that matter. That's a bit of the problem I've run into.

Some of the material could be used depending on which part of the Green Age your talking about.
#14
mystictheurge
Apr 28, 2006 19:18:29
Not the Blue Age :P ;)

Well, yeah, not that far before.
#15
master_ivan
Apr 28, 2006 19:43:50
Not the Green Age either for that matter. That's a bit of the problem I've run into.

That's not that hard to play. I'm currently DMing a campaign in the green age, right before the cleansing wars. It has a bit of a forgotten realms feel to it, but still far far away of beeing a FR campaign. It's just DS with trolls, orcs and gnomes and all those freaks :P it's alot of fun though, if my players would actually have the time to play it would be ALOT more fun :D hehe
#16
squidfur-
Apr 28, 2006 21:10:32 Well, it's not so much that everythings unusable. It's just that certain classes and abilities are not.

For example, one of my players was interested in the full scale battles that would be occuring with regularity during the time of the Cleansing Wars. He wanted to fight under one of the Champions, so I set up the campaign...

I quickly found that anything other than human would be unacceptable. Preservers and druids are out. Gladiators would not be around yet (suppose arguably they could be, but would not be very common).

There would also be a problem with running the psionic classes as is, as Tarandas would not be around for several more centuries. Remember she was the one who codified the way psionics worked, ie. introduced the present-day disciplines.
#17
ruhl-than_sage
Apr 28, 2006 21:23:04
There would also be a problem with running the psionic classes as is, as Tarandas would not be around for several more centuries. Remember she was the one who codified the way psionics worked, ie. introduced the present-day disciplines.

Psychic Warriors and Wilders could still be around. And as has been suggested, the Divine Mind (with minor adjustments) could be the Pre-Tarandan Psion.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 nivek_kpk Apr 28, 2006 11:49:18	I've heard talk on the boards mentioning DS3 and other such acronyms...whats that all about?
#2 Sysane Apr 28, 2006 11:51:32	I've heard talk on the boards mentioning DS3 and other such acronyms...whats that all about? Its short for Dark Sun 3.5. Its referring to the DS 3.5 rules done by the folks at athas.org.
#3 nivek_kpk Apr 28, 2006 12:00:38	ah, fair enoguh.
#4 nivek_kpk Apr 28, 2006 14:46:31	Am I correct in assuming that DS3.5 has no set timeframe for any of its stuff?
#5 Sysane Apr 28, 2006 15:06:31	Am I correct in assuming that DS3.5 has no set timeframe for any of its stuff? I'm not sure what your asking here. Are you asking when the newest version of the 3.5 rules will be released?
#6 nivek_kpk Apr 28, 2006 15:10:03	my apologies for a poorly phrased question. Are the rules from DS3 timeline specific in the Dark Sun universe, or can I use them from the timeline based out of the boxed set from the early 90's and not that crappy 300 years in the future garbage that Dungeon put out
#7 Sysane Apr 28, 2006 15:26:58	my apologies for a poorly phrased question. Are the rules from DS3 timeline specific in the Dark Sun universe, or can I use them from the timeline based out of the boxed set from the early 90's and not that crappy 300 years in the future garbage that Dungeon put out If I'm understanding the question, the answer would be yes. You can use the 3.5 DS rules from athas.org starting Free Year 1 on the Athasian timeline.
#8 zombiegleemax Apr 28, 2006 15:33:19	The DS3 rules are not the same as the Dungeon mag put out. The DS3 rules are an update of the original D&D2 DarkSun rules or as close as possible with alterations to try to get it to fit the D&D3.5 rules within the guidelines that wizards has given Athas.org
#9 mystictheurge Apr 28, 2006 15:51:16	If I'm understanding the question, the answer would be yes. You can use the 3.5 DS rules from athas.org starting Free Year 1 on the Athasian timeline. Or even before! If you wanted to.
#10 squidfur- Apr 28, 2006 17:37:42	The rules themselves are AFAIK not necessarily timeline specific. However, we are working with a working timeline for the adventures being released - ie Dregoth Ascending takes place in FY 12 IIRC, as does the Secrets of the Deadlands companion adventure The Emissary IIRC.
#11 Sysane Apr 28, 2006 17:49:56	Or even before! If you wanted to. Not the Blue Age :P ;)
#12 squidfur- Apr 28, 2006 17:56:56	Not the Blue Age :P ;) Not the Green Age either for that matter. That's a bit of the problem I've run into.
#13 Sysane Apr 28, 2006 19:03:03	Not the Green Age either for that matter. That's a bit of the problem I've run into. Some of the material could be used depending on which part of the Green Age your talking about.
#14 mystictheurge Apr 28, 2006 19:18:29	Not the Blue Age :P ;) Well, yeah, not that far before.
#15 master_ivan Apr 28, 2006 19:43:50	Not the Green Age either for that matter. That's a bit of the problem I've run into. That's not that hard to play. I'm currently DMing a campaign in the green age, right before the cleansing wars. It has a bit of a forgotten realms feel to it, but still far far away of beeing a FR campaign. It's just DS with trolls, orcs and gnomes and all those freaks :P it's alot of fun though, if my players would actually have the time to play it would be ALOT more fun :D hehe
#16 squidfur- Apr 28, 2006 21:10:32	Well, it's not so much that everythings unusable. It's just that certain classes and abilities are not. For example, one of my players was interested in the full scale battles that would be occuring with regularity during the time of the Cleansing Wars. He wanted to fight under one of the Champions, so I set up the campaign... I quickly found that anything other than human would be unacceptable. Preservers and druids are out. Gladiators would not be around yet (suppose arguably they could be, but would not be very common). There would also be a problem with running the psionic classes as is, as Tarandas would not be around for several more centuries. Remember she was the one who codified the way psionics worked, ie. introduced the present-day disciplines.
#17 ruhl-than_sage Apr 28, 2006 21:23:04	There would also be a problem with running the psionic classes as is, as Tarandas would not be around for several more centuries. Remember she was the one who codified the way psionics worked, ie. introduced the present-day disciplines. Psychic Warriors and Wilders could still be around. And as has been suggested, the Divine Mind (with minor adjustments) could be the Pre-Tarandan Psion.