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Pristine Tower location

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#1
analysis
May 16, 2006 6:53:13 Does it say anywhere where the Pristine Tower is/was located? What supplements/novels/whatever describe the place?

Grateful for replies.
#2
the_peacebringer
May 16, 2006 6:57:47 Check out Troy Denning's Amber Enchantress novel; Sadira goes there. I think it's on the map of the DS revision boxset too, although I don't remember the coordinates exactly... I'd say East-South-East of Nibenay. :D
#3
analysis
May 16, 2006 7:02:04 Thanks.

I would suppose that the sorcerer kings all keep watch on the place by scrying to make sure none of them decides to use it against the others?
#4
the_peacebringer
May 16, 2006 7:09:01 Maybe but there isn't much to my knowledge (which is slightly limited) on that particular subject... they probably do.
#5
analysis
May 16, 2006 7:26:27 ... there are legends about the place among desert-dwellers nearby? If so, how much should they know about it?
#6
dirk00001
May 16, 2006 11:51:11 Check out Dregoth Ascending part III: The Ascension from athas.org - it has a bunch of great info on the Pristine Tower, the area around it, maps and rules, etc. The info they give there is based on the Prism Pentad novels and other PT info found elsewhere, and is really good.

As far as the SK's watching the PT is concerned, IMO they probably aren't doing so, at least not directly - the PT is so closely tied to Rajaat, the one entity that they all collectively fear more than anything else, and being the location where they were created as well, that I think they probably have a pretty decent (and deserved) aversion to the place. They are aware that Shadow Giants live there, I'm sure, but that's even more reason to avoid the place - the giants are Rajaat's allies, and are capable of interfacing both with the First Sorcerer as well as with Athas itself, so to an SK that might very well register as "Rajaat cannot touch Athas directly, but he can interface with the shadow giants and they can interface with Athas...so perhaps Rajaat could use a Shadow Giant as some sort of conduit to get to me if I gave him the chance." Since the Shadow Giants seldom leave the tower, for most SKs that'd be even more indication that they're tied to the place, and by extension would give more credence to the paranoid idea that Rajaat might still be capable of using magic (of some sort) at the tower. And, if those are the kind of thoughts that the SKs are having, even doing something as simple as scrying on the place could, in their mind, prove fatal - after all, Rajaat was the one that created magic in the first place, taught them all how to scry, and he's one tricky mofo to boot, so who's to say that the moment an SK scries on the tower Rajaat doesn't smush their brain like a stress ball?
Indirectly however, the SKs probably keep tabs on the place as much as they can - "Pristine tower" would be a key phrase that their "proximity alarm" spells, scattered around their city-states, would trigger, alerting them to a conversation they probably want to listen in on, and higher-ranking templars and such may have been told just enough about the place to know that, should they hear any gossip about it, they need to alert their king and investigate further.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 analysis May 16, 2006 6:53:13	Does it say anywhere where the Pristine Tower is/was located? What supplements/novels/whatever describe the place? Grateful for replies.
#2 the_peacebringer May 16, 2006 6:57:47	Check out Troy Denning's Amber Enchantress novel; Sadira goes there. I think it's on the map of the DS revision boxset too, although I don't remember the coordinates exactly... I'd say East-South-East of Nibenay. :D
#3 analysis May 16, 2006 7:02:04	Thanks. I would suppose that the sorcerer kings all keep watch on the place by scrying to make sure none of them decides to use it against the others?
#4 the_peacebringer May 16, 2006 7:09:01	Maybe but there isn't much to my knowledge (which is slightly limited) on that particular subject... they probably do.
#5 analysis May 16, 2006 7:26:27	... there are legends about the place among desert-dwellers nearby? If so, how much should they know about it?
#6 dirk00001 May 16, 2006 11:51:11	Check out Dregoth Ascending part III: The Ascension from athas.org - it has a bunch of great info on the Pristine Tower, the area around it, maps and rules, etc. The info they give there is based on the Prism Pentad novels and other PT info found elsewhere, and is really good. As far as the SK's watching the PT is concerned, IMO they probably aren't doing so, at least not directly - the PT is so closely tied to Rajaat, the one entity that they all collectively fear more than anything else, and being the location where they were created as well, that I think they probably have a pretty decent (and deserved) aversion to the place. They are aware that Shadow Giants live there, I'm sure, but that's even more reason to avoid the place - the giants are Rajaat's allies, and are capable of interfacing both with the First Sorcerer as well as with Athas itself, so to an SK that might very well register as "Rajaat cannot touch Athas directly, but he can interface with the shadow giants and they can interface with Athas...so perhaps Rajaat could use a Shadow Giant as some sort of conduit to get to me if I gave him the chance." Since the Shadow Giants seldom leave the tower, for most SKs that'd be even more indication that they're tied to the place, and by extension would give more credence to the paranoid idea that Rajaat might still be capable of using magic (of some sort) at the tower. And, if those are the kind of thoughts that the SKs are having, even doing something as simple as scrying on the place could, in their mind, prove fatal - after all, Rajaat was the one that created magic in the first place, taught them all how to scry, and he's one tricky mofo to boot, so who's to say that the moment an SK scries on the tower Rajaat doesn't smush their brain like a stress ball? Indirectly however, the SKs probably keep tabs on the place as much as they can - "Pristine tower" would be a key phrase that their "proximity alarm" spells, scattered around their city-states, would trigger, alerting them to a conversation they probably want to listen in on, and higher-ranking templars and such may have been told just enough about the place to know that, should they hear any gossip about it, they need to alert their king and investigate further.