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How many wizards are there in Greyhawk?

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#1
prophet_of_chaos
Jun 25, 2006 21:55:13 Can anyone think of a way in which this might be figured out?
#2
zombiegleemax
Jun 25, 2006 23:22:16 742
#3
chatdemon
Jun 25, 2006 23:45:43
Can anyone think of a way in which this might be figured out?

I don't have the book handy to do the math, but iirc, the 3e/3.5e DMG gives percentages (of total populations) of people that are adventuring classes.

Feed the population figures from the LGG into those equations and you'll have a rough answer.
#4
mortellan
Jun 26, 2006 0:06:27 When calculating don't forget to take the whole Greyhawk domain population into account, not just the city. GHC's guild and school of magic would draw wizards from probably farther afield but its one factor to take into account.
#5
pauln6
Jun 26, 2006 6:21:01 It's a judgment call. In my campaign, wizards are rare but Greyhawk and Ekbir host the two largest centres of magical excellence in the Flanaess, so their 'magical' populations will be much higher than average and membership will include wizards from other regional guilds who want access to the increased resources that such establishments can offer.
#6
Elendur
Jun 26, 2006 23:33:30 Are you asking about the Free City of Greyhawk or the campaign in general?

In general, the DMG statistics work ok, but the Free City is going to have a lot more (maybe double).
#7
Mortepierre
Jun 27, 2006 3:09:04 Not to mention other organizations which rely heavily on wizards (such as the SB)
#8
prophet_of_chaos
Jun 27, 2006 6:15:07 The whole campaign.
#9
pauln6
Jun 27, 2006 7:13:19 Now you're just being silly. Seriously though, the simple answer is, not that many and most that do exist would be dabblers.

Somebody recently asked a similar question about class demographics on Canonfire, I think and a few folks came up with workable ideas.

http://www.canonfire.com/cfhtml/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1938&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
#10
Elendur
Jun 27, 2006 14:37:07 The DMG lists demographics by city, so for example a metropolis of 25,000 people there would be 4 wizards of level 13-18, 8 of 6-9, 16 of 3-6, and 32 around 1-2 level, for a total of about 60. That's about .2% of the population.

However most of the population lives in smaller settlements, so the numbers will be even lower there.

Personally my answer is always 'As many as needed for the story', but I'm not really a stickler on Greyhawk canon.
#11
Monteblanco
Jun 28, 2006 16:46:14
The DMG lists demographics by city, so for example a metropolis of 25,000 people there would be 4 wizards of level 13-18, 8 of 6-9, 16 of 3-6, and 32 around 1-2 level, for a total of about 60. That's about .2% of the population.

However most of the population lives in smaller settlements, so the numbers will be even lower there.

These numbers are lousy guidelines. Greyhawk, being famous as a center of magical development would attract far more wizards than DMG suggests.

Personally my answer is always 'As many as needed for the story', but I'm not really a stickler on Greyhawk canon.

I couldn't agree more.
#12
zombiegleemax
Jun 28, 2006 18:21:32 What is the point of said question?
#13
zombiegleemax
Jun 29, 2006 7:05:11
These numbers are lousy guidelines. Greyhawk, being famous as a center of magical development would attract far more wizards than DMG suggests.

As Greyhawk is a metropolis of about 69,000 people as of 591 CY, there's scope to inflate the figures a little.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 prophet_of_chaos Jun 25, 2006 21:55:13	Can anyone think of a way in which this might be figured out?
#2 zombiegleemax Jun 25, 2006 23:22:16	742
#3 chatdemon Jun 25, 2006 23:45:43	Can anyone think of a way in which this might be figured out? I don't have the book handy to do the math, but iirc, the 3e/3.5e DMG gives percentages (of total populations) of people that are adventuring classes. Feed the population figures from the LGG into those equations and you'll have a rough answer.
#4 mortellan Jun 26, 2006 0:06:27	When calculating don't forget to take the whole Greyhawk domain population into account, not just the city. GHC's guild and school of magic would draw wizards from probably farther afield but its one factor to take into account.
#5 pauln6 Jun 26, 2006 6:21:01	It's a judgment call. In my campaign, wizards are rare but Greyhawk and Ekbir host the two largest centres of magical excellence in the Flanaess, so their 'magical' populations will be much higher than average and membership will include wizards from other regional guilds who want access to the increased resources that such establishments can offer.
#6 Elendur Jun 26, 2006 23:33:30	Are you asking about the Free City of Greyhawk or the campaign in general? In general, the DMG statistics work ok, but the Free City is going to have a lot more (maybe double).
#7 Mortepierre Jun 27, 2006 3:09:04	Not to mention other organizations which rely heavily on wizards (such as the SB)
#8 prophet_of_chaos Jun 27, 2006 6:15:07	The whole campaign.
#9 pauln6 Jun 27, 2006 7:13:19	Now you're just being silly. Seriously though, the simple answer is, not that many and most that do exist would be dabblers. Somebody recently asked a similar question about class demographics on Canonfire, I think and a few folks came up with workable ideas. http://www.canonfire.com/cfhtml/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1938&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
#10 Elendur Jun 27, 2006 14:37:07	The DMG lists demographics by city, so for example a metropolis of 25,000 people there would be 4 wizards of level 13-18, 8 of 6-9, 16 of 3-6, and 32 around 1-2 level, for a total of about 60. That's about .2% of the population. However most of the population lives in smaller settlements, so the numbers will be even lower there. Personally my answer is always 'As many as needed for the story', but I'm not really a stickler on Greyhawk canon.
#11 Monteblanco Jun 28, 2006 16:46:14	The DMG lists demographics by city, so for example a metropolis of 25,000 people there would be 4 wizards of level 13-18, 8 of 6-9, 16 of 3-6, and 32 around 1-2 level, for a total of about 60. That's about .2% of the population. However most of the population lives in smaller settlements, so the numbers will be even lower there. These numbers are lousy guidelines. Greyhawk, being famous as a center of magical development would attract far more wizards than DMG suggests. Personally my answer is always 'As many as needed for the story', but I'm not really a stickler on Greyhawk canon. I couldn't agree more.
#12 zombiegleemax Jun 28, 2006 18:21:32	What is the point of said question?
#13 zombiegleemax Jun 29, 2006 7:05:11	These numbers are lousy guidelines. Greyhawk, being famous as a center of magical development would attract far more wizards than DMG suggests. As Greyhawk is a metropolis of about 69,000 people as of 591 CY, there's scope to inflate the figures a little.