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#1
tanishalf
Jul 05, 2006 17:27:59 Well, i started reading the Taladas triology (just finished the first book), and i've only read the dragon war+twin war (war of the souls?), so i have no clue about "The godless night".
In the book it mentions that you couldn't use magic during the godelss night, but the question here is : what is/was the godess night, and what books tell about it?
#2
iltharanos
Jul 05, 2006 19:09:07 The Godless Night is the Taladas name for the first 39 years of the Age of Mortals where the Gods were absent and prior to their return at the end of the War of Souls. On Ansalon the discovery of sorcery and mysticism allowed for the use of magic during this time period, but apparently the Taladan peoples never made similar discoveries, hence the explanation for the lack of magic use during the Godless Night.
#3
zombiegleemax
Jul 06, 2006 11:25:35 So Taki did not take the time to travel to Taladas to teach them?
#4
myriddian
Jul 07, 2006 3:54:58 Actually, in Blades of the Tiger Shedara mentions how some magic-users found another form of magic, but she herself never got into it. So they did have sorcery on Taladas.
#5
Sysane
Jul 07, 2006 8:53:22 Any word on the 3rd book? I just finished the 2nd, Trail of the Black Wyrm.
#6
zombiegleemax
Jul 11, 2006 13:36:18 I started to read the 1st book. I like it so far. Pierson is a good author.
#7
tanishalf
Jul 24, 2006 9:57:00
Actually, in Blades of the Tiger Shedara mentions how some magic-users found another form of magic, but she herself never got into it. So they did have sorcery on Taladas.

In the second book, trail of the black wyrm, the elder of that ice-tribe used some power that was't "relly magic" but something else. Is this the kind?
#8
wolf72
Jul 24, 2006 11:37:29 I'd guess the shaman was using mysticism
#9
zombiegleemax
Jul 24, 2006 12:02:37 Guys, I never read these trilogy. Is it good for a DL line? I read that it adds new flavor to Krynn, but just wondering if it still got a DL feeling or something entirely different.

What DL/FR novel can I compare it with? (In regards of mood, humor, action, etc.)

THANKS!
#10
darthsylver
Jul 24, 2006 16:08:59 I would rank as one of the top five trilogies for krynn so far. It gives you a broad stroke of most of the cultures on Taladas, and it is only on it's second book.
#11
zombiegleemax
Jul 24, 2006 21:14:17 How about story-wise? Is it exciting? Does it have lots of boring parts? Dragons?
#12
tanishalf
Jul 25, 2006 6:23:43 Two dragons thus far i believe.
Boring parts? i didn't have any of these, i liked all of it.. maybe in the very beginning with forlo and the uigan tribe settings.
It's really exciting too, but that's just what i mean anyway.
#13
zombiegleemax
Jul 25, 2006 6:44:39 ^^ OK man, thanks a lot!
#14
darthsylver
Jul 25, 2006 11:15:18 I'll put it like this. I finished the first book in about 3 days, the second in about 3 hours.
#15
zombiegleemax
Jul 25, 2006 13:50:28
I'll put it like this. I finished the first book in about 3 days, the second in about 3 hours.

Hmmmm... tell me what novels in FR and DL you enjoy if I may ask. You may like Kendermore for all I know! lol...
#16
tanishalf
Jul 25, 2006 17:28:03 Let's start a thread for everyones favorite DL-series/books!!
Just buy the taladas stuff. Pierson is awesome and so is his works.
#17
darthsylver
Aug 01, 2006 11:14:29 Well as far as for the FR realms books I have read they are all the Drizzt books, Elminster: Making a mage (not sure if exact title), elminster in hell, Elminster in Cormanthor (not sure of title, book was something about last elven mythal), the books about Gromph Beanre's Daughter who went the surface and hooked up with a Barbarian, the War of the Spider Queen quintet, and Promise of the Witch-King (with Jarlaxle and assassin). I did not really like the Elminster books, the witch-king and some of the drizzt's books (After people starting returning from the dead it didn't sit well with me) (and yes I know that the barbarian really wasn't dead he was just in another dimension, yada yada yada). I know that this is technically possible with the rules, but it just seems to go against the believes and wishes of the character. You don't see DL characters coming back after the dead so much (yes I know Raistlin had a brief return stint but he didn't stick around).

As far as for what DL books I like it would propably be easier to say which ones I didn't like or had a hard time getting through. I had a hard time getting through Night of Blood (the 1st book in the minotaur trilogy) it took me 6 months, but I flew through the next two in 2 days (1 each). I enjoyed the Ergoth trilogy immensely. Uncle trapspringer and Lord Toede were hard for me to get through (not so interesting). I hate and despise Mina more than anything else in this setting and yet I got through War of the Souls and her two books out now so fast I had to go back and read them just to make I had not missed anything. I completely enjoyed all the anthology books because they were short quick stories. In fact the first book I ever read was the War of the Lance anthology (Tales series 1 I think and that got me hooked on dragonlance because I wanted to know what was this war they were talking about).It is rare for me to not like a DL book and I have read and own every single book (as far as I know). I even fought against the saga rules (just ask rooks) for so long, but I bought the Saga rules supplements just for the history that they added to the setting (which is why I get so irritated when something, anything is changed by a new rule, like Clerics of the gods of magic are no longer allowed and apparently never existed, even though who had rules and even prerequisites for them, pre-saga). But hey what's past is past and this is the world we live (play) in. So enjoy it. :D :D :D
#18
zombiegleemax
Aug 01, 2006 11:43:45 ^^ Wow man. Im proud that in the Philippines, I have to be one of those who read a lot of DL books, even if I have to get it in US...But I still cant muster reading all of them. I wasnt and will never finish Kendermore!

Though Night of Blood, I finished it in a week(I got lots of books yet to read and give them 1 week each to finish so by the time Im finished, Im off to Manila for the SmackDown! tour then buy more books)... I love the book so much.

I hate Mina too! But I read the DL core novels quickly enough - to my disdain, cuz I dont want great stories to finish so fast! I dislike Jean Rabe's books, esp. the New Age trilogy. Nice on paper but she didnt deliver. Last battle - overlords had a hard time killing the Heroes of the Heart?! Atleast Salvatore makes the battles nice.

Oh and I really love Pierson's book when Riverwind died(forgot the title!)... I remember reading it night time til 8 a.m.! Great book!

But yeah, Salvatore's characters are overpowered in a way... though I guess cuz they aint faced with the all-time greats, but in their "own little world". I still love his writing though.
#19
darthsylver
Aug 02, 2006 13:00:01 Riverwind dies in Spirit of the Wind. The title sorta gives it away. Depending on how you perceive it.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 tanishalf Jul 05, 2006 17:27:59	Well, i started reading the Taladas triology (just finished the first book), and i've only read the dragon war+twin war (war of the souls?), so i have no clue about "The godless night". In the book it mentions that you couldn't use magic during the godelss night, but the question here is : what is/was the godess night, and what books tell about it?
#2 iltharanos Jul 05, 2006 19:09:07	The Godless Night is the Taladas name for the first 39 years of the Age of Mortals where the Gods were absent and prior to their return at the end of the War of Souls. On Ansalon the discovery of sorcery and mysticism allowed for the use of magic during this time period, but apparently the Taladan peoples never made similar discoveries, hence the explanation for the lack of magic use during the Godless Night.
#3 zombiegleemax Jul 06, 2006 11:25:35	So Taki did not take the time to travel to Taladas to teach them?
#4 myriddian Jul 07, 2006 3:54:58	Actually, in Blades of the Tiger Shedara mentions how some magic-users found another form of magic, but she herself never got into it. So they did have sorcery on Taladas.
#5 Sysane Jul 07, 2006 8:53:22	Any word on the 3rd book? I just finished the 2nd, Trail of the Black Wyrm.
#6 zombiegleemax Jul 11, 2006 13:36:18	I started to read the 1st book. I like it so far. Pierson is a good author.
#7 tanishalf Jul 24, 2006 9:57:00	Actually, in Blades of the Tiger Shedara mentions how some magic-users found another form of magic, but she herself never got into it. So they did have sorcery on Taladas. In the second book, trail of the black wyrm, the elder of that ice-tribe used some power that was't "relly magic" but something else. Is this the kind?
#8 wolf72 Jul 24, 2006 11:37:29	I'd guess the shaman was using mysticism
#9 zombiegleemax Jul 24, 2006 12:02:37	Guys, I never read these trilogy. Is it good for a DL line? I read that it adds new flavor to Krynn, but just wondering if it still got a DL feeling or something entirely different. What DL/FR novel can I compare it with? (In regards of mood, humor, action, etc.) THANKS!
#10 darthsylver Jul 24, 2006 16:08:59	I would rank as one of the top five trilogies for krynn so far. It gives you a broad stroke of most of the cultures on Taladas, and it is only on it's second book.
#11 zombiegleemax Jul 24, 2006 21:14:17	How about story-wise? Is it exciting? Does it have lots of boring parts? Dragons?
#12 tanishalf Jul 25, 2006 6:23:43	Two dragons thus far i believe. Boring parts? i didn't have any of these, i liked all of it.. maybe in the very beginning with forlo and the uigan tribe settings. It's really exciting too, but that's just what i mean anyway.
#13 zombiegleemax Jul 25, 2006 6:44:39	^^ OK man, thanks a lot!
#14 darthsylver Jul 25, 2006 11:15:18	I'll put it like this. I finished the first book in about 3 days, the second in about 3 hours.
#15 zombiegleemax Jul 25, 2006 13:50:28	I'll put it like this. I finished the first book in about 3 days, the second in about 3 hours. Hmmmm... tell me what novels in FR and DL you enjoy if I may ask. You may like Kendermore for all I know! lol...
#16 tanishalf Jul 25, 2006 17:28:03	Let's start a thread for everyones favorite DL-series/books!! Just buy the taladas stuff. Pierson is awesome and so is his works.
#17 darthsylver Aug 01, 2006 11:14:29	Well as far as for the FR realms books I have read they are all the Drizzt books, Elminster: Making a mage (not sure if exact title), elminster in hell, Elminster in Cormanthor (not sure of title, book was something about last elven mythal), the books about Gromph Beanre's Daughter who went the surface and hooked up with a Barbarian, the War of the Spider Queen quintet, and Promise of the Witch-King (with Jarlaxle and assassin). I did not really like the Elminster books, the witch-king and some of the drizzt's books (After people starting returning from the dead it didn't sit well with me) (and yes I know that the barbarian really wasn't dead he was just in another dimension, yada yada yada). I know that this is technically possible with the rules, but it just seems to go against the believes and wishes of the character. You don't see DL characters coming back after the dead so much (yes I know Raistlin had a brief return stint but he didn't stick around). As far as for what DL books I like it would propably be easier to say which ones I didn't like or had a hard time getting through. I had a hard time getting through Night of Blood (the 1st book in the minotaur trilogy) it took me 6 months, but I flew through the next two in 2 days (1 each). I enjoyed the Ergoth trilogy immensely. Uncle trapspringer and Lord Toede were hard for me to get through (not so interesting). I hate and despise Mina more than anything else in this setting and yet I got through War of the Souls and her two books out now so fast I had to go back and read them just to make I had not missed anything. I completely enjoyed all the anthology books because they were short quick stories. In fact the first book I ever read was the War of the Lance anthology (Tales series 1 I think and that got me hooked on dragonlance because I wanted to know what was this war they were talking about).It is rare for me to not like a DL book and I have read and own every single book (as far as I know). I even fought against the saga rules (just ask rooks) for so long, but I bought the Saga rules supplements just for the history that they added to the setting (which is why I get so irritated when something, anything is changed by a new rule, like Clerics of the gods of magic are no longer allowed and apparently never existed, even though who had rules and even prerequisites for them, pre-saga). But hey what's past is past and this is the world we live (play) in. So enjoy it. :D :D :D
#18 zombiegleemax Aug 01, 2006 11:43:45	^^ Wow man. Im proud that in the Philippines, I have to be one of those who read a lot of DL books, even if I have to get it in US...But I still cant muster reading all of them. I wasnt and will never finish Kendermore! Though Night of Blood, I finished it in a week(I got lots of books yet to read and give them 1 week each to finish so by the time Im finished, Im off to Manila for the SmackDown! tour then buy more books)... I love the book so much. I hate Mina too! But I read the DL core novels quickly enough - to my disdain, cuz I dont want great stories to finish so fast! I dislike Jean Rabe's books, esp. the New Age trilogy. Nice on paper but she didnt deliver. Last battle - overlords had a hard time killing the Heroes of the Heart?! Atleast Salvatore makes the battles nice. Oh and I really love Pierson's book when Riverwind died(forgot the title!)... I remember reading it night time til 8 a.m.! Great book! But yeah, Salvatore's characters are overpowered in a way... though I guess cuz they aint faced with the all-time greats, but in their "own little world". I still love his writing though.
#19 darthsylver Aug 02, 2006 13:00:01	Riverwind dies in Spirit of the Wind. The title sorta gives it away. Depending on how you perceive it.