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Master Elementalist summoning question

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#1
zombiegleemax
Oct 12, 2006 14:27:10 Maybe this belongs on a different board, but since this prestige class is specific to Dark Sun I figured I'd ask here first:

The Master Elementalist can summon an elemental once or twice per day using a class ability that allows the elementalist to summon an elemental as if using the highest accessible Summon Monster spell. What I want to know is, does the epic spell Summon Behemoth count a Summon Monster spell? If so, does this mean that the Master Elementalist can use the Summon Elemental to replicate Summon Behemoth?

Furthermore, how would Summon Behemoth work on Athas? The epic monster entry for Behemoth lists a Behemoth Eagle and Behemoth Gorilla, which definitely opens up the possibility for other sorts of Behemoths, including ones that might be elementals or creatures from elemental planes. Neither eagles nor gorillas are necessarily native to Athas, so it wouldn't make any sense for Athasian epic casters to summon either one. Obviously, if Summon Behemoth does NOT allow the caster to summon some sort of enormous elemental, it probably wouldn't work with the Elemental Master's Summon Elemental ability anyway.
#2
csk
Oct 14, 2006 14:46:28 Since Summon Behemoth is not a summon monster spell, and it's an epic spell which have special rules anyway I'd say no, it doesn't count. If you want an epic summon elemental spell it should probably summon a primal elemental.
#3
zombiegleemax
Oct 15, 2006 0:26:02 Well that clears that up then. Thanks!

(and yes, an elemental version of Summon Behemoth for the Athas setting could be pretty slick).
#4
jon_oracle_of_athas
Oct 15, 2006 14:29:20 The answer would be no, you can only use non-epic spells for this purpose.

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#1 zombiegleemax Oct 12, 2006 14:27:10	Maybe this belongs on a different board, but since this prestige class is specific to Dark Sun I figured I'd ask here first: The Master Elementalist can summon an elemental once or twice per day using a class ability that allows the elementalist to summon an elemental as if using the highest accessible Summon Monster spell. What I want to know is, does the epic spell Summon Behemoth count a Summon Monster spell? If so, does this mean that the Master Elementalist can use the Summon Elemental to replicate Summon Behemoth? Furthermore, how would Summon Behemoth work on Athas? The epic monster entry for Behemoth lists a Behemoth Eagle and Behemoth Gorilla, which definitely opens up the possibility for other sorts of Behemoths, including ones that might be elementals or creatures from elemental planes. Neither eagles nor gorillas are necessarily native to Athas, so it wouldn't make any sense for Athasian epic casters to summon either one. Obviously, if Summon Behemoth does NOT allow the caster to summon some sort of enormous elemental, it probably wouldn't work with the Elemental Master's Summon Elemental ability anyway.
#2 csk Oct 14, 2006 14:46:28	Since Summon Behemoth is not a summon monster spell, and it's an epic spell which have special rules anyway I'd say no, it doesn't count. If you want an epic summon elemental spell it should probably summon a primal elemental.
#3 zombiegleemax Oct 15, 2006 0:26:02	Well that clears that up then. Thanks! (and yes, an elemental version of Summon Behemoth for the Athas setting could be pretty slick).
#4 jon_oracle_of_athas Oct 15, 2006 14:29:20	The answer would be no, you can only use non-epic spells for this purpose.