can someone tell me a little more about "the Test" that wizard and sorcerers can do in Dragonlance.
1) What is the goal of the test?
2) where can the do it?
3)at which level can the take the test?
4)what does this test entail?
5) hwo does it works?
ect.
all ready thanks ;)
1) What is the goal of the test?
In Dragonlance, arcane magic is regulated by the Orders of High Sorcery (or, at least the Orders like to think this is true). The Test of High Sorcery is administered by the Orders to ensure that only the most dedicated and responsible apprentices learn to wield truly powerful arcane magic. The Test is designed to weed out the weak and the poorly prepared (usually by killing them).
2) where can the do it?
In the past it's always been at the Tower of Wayreth. In the current Age, the Orders are still recovering from the latest round of earthshaking events, so things are a little more flexible.
3)at which level can the take the test?
As soon as it's clear a caster is a serious student of magic and not just a dabbler; in game terms, it's when a wizard is powerful enough to cast 3rd level spells.
4)what does this test entail?
The big aspects of a test are to make sure the wizard casts a wide variety of spells, that the wizard is forced to solve a problem without using magic, and the wizard's moral character is tested (essentially an alignment test, to determine which Order he will belong to).
5) hwo does it works?
I an most easily speak about the Test my wizard PC underwent. He entered the Tower, went through a bit of formalities with the test's administrators (three wizards, one each from the White, Red, and Black Robe orders), and was seen through a door. Once through the door he was presented with a variety of scenarios - whether these were real or illusionary remains mysterious. Each scenario presented a problem that he had to solve as best he knew how. He survived, and was granted the White Robes (and a nifty magic item for his trouble).
As an aside: sorcerers are absolutely forbidden to take the Test. It's "focused" arcane magic only - "ambient" magic, such as that cast by bards and sorcerers, is (in the wizards' view) corrupted by Chaos and inherently dangerous. In DL, wizards and sorcerers generally don't get along very well.
a fuw more questions:
1) What were your PC wizard scenarios? (because i would like to get a idea hwo it would be)>>> can you give me a fuw examples(scenarios)
2) When he survived the test wasn't he change , just as Raistlin ( because he turn in to a very ill persone and not 'very' beautifull )?
3)I though a wizard have to sacrifice always something to get the arcane power (if he survived)?
4) Can a wizard take magic items with him into the test?
5) If he succeed what kind of magic item can he get? Because I don't wont to give him a to powerfull magic item >>> the fun for the rest of the party would be finished.
6) In the rolplay> does the wizard gain extra levels or new spells or both or something different.
7) can a wizard do the test more than one time?
;) thanks for answering the questions
1) What were your PC wizard scenarios? (because i would like to get a idea hwo it would be)>>> can you give me a fuw examples(scenarios)
It's been a few years, but I'll see what I can remember...
One was that I was "transported" back in time (real? illusion? I don't know.) to the Second Dragon War, when terribly powerful arcane magic was used to defeat the dragons but was spiraling out of control. My task was to take a group of sorcerers who were about to lose control of their spell and teach them to work together to control it.
Another was that I found myself in the Library in Palanthas, talking to Astinus (which was very odd, given that Astinus had vanished over 20 years before my character was even born...) I had to locate something in the library using just my wits.
Another scenario involved my character facing his nemesis; that he chose mercy and to take his enemy's place in a terrible prophesy (long story) proved that my character was Good and deserved to wear the White Robes.
2) When he survived the test wasn't he change , just as Raistlin
Optional but not necessary. My character wasn't physically changed.
3)I though a wizard have to sacrifice always something to get the arcane power (if he survived)?
Sacrifice can take many forms.
4) Can a wizard take magic items with him into the test?
Sure.
5) If he succeed what kind of magic item can he get?
It shouldn't be too unbalancing. My own PC was awarded the Staff of Solinari, an artifact that grows in power as its wielder does.
6) In the rolplay> does the wizard gain extra levels or new spells or both or something different.
The wizard gains membership in the Orders of High Sorcery, and the character gains XP according to the challenges he faced no different than any other challenge. You don't gain free levels or free spells or anything.
7) can a wizard do the test more than one time?
There'd be no point. Once you pass, you're in the club, so to speak - no need to go through initiation again.
I was under the impression that no magic items were allowed to be taken into the Test.
My Towers of High Sorcery is upstairs, but I don't recall such a rule. My wizard certainly held onto his bracers of armor.
Can someone tell me how the situation is in the tower of high sorcery?
(what is going on there; who is leading the place there, are there famues people, little tower history, anything you can think of)
Where are they uther towers (or beter where are the rhunes of the towers)?
In the party is there a magi |levels>>>(1wiz/5 sor)| and he is at the moment on a mission but ben this is done he will searche for the tower.
My problem is that I can not think of 3 scenarios for the test.
Can someone give me soem ideas.
Here is some background of the magi > he is human. When he was 12 years old his village was under attack by goblins. He run away but somehow he gets onconsious and from the moment he gets op he only know that he run away from his attacked village >(he do not know that he has 2 sisters and a mother). By wonder, elves find him and they raised him like one of them.
He hates goblins and gullydwarfs. He has a lott of respect for the elves.
I hope someone can give my what ideas.y You don't have to base on the background, but it would be fun for him (I hope :D)
all ready thanks ;)
I didnt think sorcerers had to take the test.......
But I make an exception because he has one level wizard. So he may do the test. Any ideas for the test?
Throw up a challege that tests his willingness to abide by the Tenants of the Tower. As a Socerer the temptation to go Renegade seems very likely. See if when given choices does the PC bow to the tenants of the Tower or does the PC go for the quick path to power.....
Would the PC given the chance choose the Path of Power over the Tenants?
Just and Idea....dont really know your situation....I would play off the PCs weakness....test them there prehaps...
If the PC is a Power Gamer...maybe follow the test I advised above.
If the PC is a noob, maybe challenge their willingness to RP, or think for themselves.
If the PC is a Games Lawyer, sit back and break all the rules....if this angers them they fail...
Just some thoughts.....
I remeber I was thrown impossible odds, when my PC took the test...I had a problem with not thinking through solutions, every encounter had a simple solution, I just had to figure that out on my own...my character came out of the Test missing an eye. Very kewl hook.
I didnt think sorcerers had to take the test.......
By the rules as written they can't take the test, nor can they multiclass with wizard. Nothing wrong with going off-menu, though.
By the rules as written they can't take the test, nor can they multiclass with wizard. Nothing wrong with going off-menu, though.
It's okay as long as they are doing that "epiphany" thing.
the only thing i have to know is a little more about the towers of high sorcery!
And when the magi will take the test I will let you all know how it went.:D
The most commonly known test is the test of the towers of high sorcery which are for admitance in the wizardly orders of high sorcery.
The other test which is commonly confused by most folk as the test of high sorcery was the test given to sorcerers during the age of mortals prior to the War of the souls. Ths test was administered by the Academy of Sorcery and strangely enough tested the same beliefs and concepts that are tested during the test of High Sorcery used by the orders of Magic.
Now the academy of sorcery was destroyed, but should that academy ever be reestablished it is quite possible that this test will reappear. After all, the Orders of High Sorcery were disbanded and they have returned so why shouldn't the academy make a reappearance. Should this ever happen it may be a way for the Wizards and Sorcerers to work together.
But Palin does not live in the war of the lance and my party does. So they have to wait a LONG time before he is born.
But can someone tell me more about the Tower and who lives there (at the war of the lance periode)? Because in my books isn't match about the tower to say.
If it was rediscovered in the age of mortals, than it had to exist in the age of despair, it was just a little harder to see. :D :D :D :D
It was actually harder (or nearly impossible) to use, to be precise. At least for mortals.
Cheers,
Cam
But that are not all of them and I can't find the history about the towers in the Age of Despair
Can someone of you tell me more about them?
It is very difficult to find it back in the books I have (The Chronicles trilogy, Dragons of the Dwarven Depths and the War of Souls trilogy)
I hope you can help me because I'm getting desperate
http://www.dlnexus.com/lexicon/15506.aspx
The Dragonlance Lexicon is a often good source for this sort of information.
People can someone of you tell me where all the towers of high sorcery original stood? Because I only know that one of the towers stood in Palanthas, but then vanished. And there is also a tower somewhere in the nation Istar (BUT WHERE???), and the last standing tower of high sorcery stands in the forest of Wayreth. What the hell happend with the outhers???(correct me if I'm wrong)
But that are not all of them and I can't find the history about the towers in the Age of Despair
Can someone of you tell me more about them?
It is very difficult to find it back in the books I have (The Chronicles trilogy, Dragons of the Dwarven Depths and the War of Souls trilogy)
I hope you can help me because I'm getting desperate
If you really want to read about some of the history of the Towers and WoHS, there is a great amount of information in the "Kingpriest Trilogy". It will give you some background on the towers, their original locations, how they are destroyed (or taken over in a couple cases) and the Kingpriest's hand in all of it. Plus they are great books to read. Check them out.
The wizard out of my party has finally did his test and he servived (but he has been change)
first> he was in a dungeon. There he met a undead skeleton in a dark room. The skeleton asked a grace of him. He had to find a book in the forgotten dungeons. After a little time he found the book, but it was gaurded by a werewolf. At that moment he noticed that his magic was gone. So this was the test without magic and he had to us is brain. Eventual he lured away the werewolf and ran away with the book. The werewolf pursued him. Just when he got to the skeleton he closed the door of the room and he had to answer a fuw questions (he got 1 min for answering 3 quenstion correctly). He was teleported safely!
After that he was back in time. He was landed in the old village were he lived. The village was under attack by goblins and he met him self and his to sisters. He brought them to teh forest where the could run away. To bath that a little group had noticed them and he had to fight them ( this time whit magic).
The children ran safely in to the forest. The wizard almost killed them all and but than he wrestled with one of them. he had to make a fortitude-save but he did not succeed. At that moment he felt a dreadful pain.
The last thing that he had to do was to fight his druid-friend. He won and he had succeeded the test except for the strengt test (fortitude-save)
he has really changed, its left-hand side of its body has been mutated.
The mutated skin considered the same as the skin of goblin.
he gained : 1) A magic item >>> a staff
2) a special feat >>> magic spellmix
It allows you to cast spells of the same school.(illusion with illusion or transmutation with transmutation, ect.)
You can cast max. 2 spells of the same school, each time you sacrifice a one level higher spell than you want to cast.
(for example: a level-2 evocation spell with a outher level-2 evocation spell for sacrificing a level-3 spell)
He was very happy with everything even with his mutation (he finds it real cool). Thank you all for the info you all give me.
If you still have questions you may still ask them. ;)
brewing witch is a rare prestige classe.
It is normally a wizard but she cant cast spell as a normal wizard, she throws magic potions or drinks them. She does has to make the potions every day, just as a wizard has to learn his spell every day.
A brewing witch did not go to any magic school to learn her magic.
My question is "Can the brewing witch take the test?"
And if she can't, what could she do as a replacement of the test?
Bay the way, I am playing in the age of despair. And I wonder of,
the black robes still go to the tower of high sorcery or do they go to some elsewhere? Or are they staying in the flying citadel???
(be chose, I thought it is some kind of base for them)
It didn't invent it, the brewing witch is definitely a existing prestige class!
I said before that the brewing witch class is a rare class.
But the inportent thing is :" can take the witch the test of high sorcery or not
and if she can't what could she do instead of the test?
Where can I read more about the PrC?
Here is the site where I find the brewing witch kit.;)
http://www.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/~knight/rpgdata/new.kits.3
To answer your question, if the character is creating spell effects of 3rd level or greater, and the type of magic being used is wizard magic (i.e. not sorcery), then regardless of the fact that she uses potions she'd probably have to take the Test.
Cheers,
Cam
That's a 2nd edition kit, not a 3rd edition prestige class.
To answer your question, if the character is creating spell effects of 3rd level or greater, and the type of magic being used is wizard magic (i.e. not sorcery), then regardless of the fact that she uses potions she'd probably have to take the Test.
Cheers,
Cam
thansk for your answer ;)
About the black robes, do they still go to the tower of high sorcery or not?
because I don't know if they still go to the tower?
I always thought they went to a other places or isn't that true.
How is the attitude of the black robes in the age of despair?
The Towers are held in common by those who have earned their robes in the Test. That is one of the great things about Dragonlance, IMHO,.
Mmmh intresting...
With this last anwser of Treymordin,
I wonder what whould happen if there were more wizards of the black robe who takes the test and they all succeed >>> Could they take over the tower and banish all the outher wizards?
Or is there a max. limiet on wizards who can take the test?
Because if there is no limiet, there could be for example:
more black robe wizards and because they are the most powerfulls wizards they could take the upper hand in the tower, so they don't have to share the magic and knowledge with the outher wizards.
Could this really happen or is there a rule for? What do you think of?
Nothing wrong with going off-menu, though.
I strongly encourage going off-menu on this issue and ignoring the whole focused/ambient divide. If they are arcane casters, they can take the test. Multiclassing is open as well. Ensure that "Arcane" magic is not "Divine"-lite and keep your options open, both for story and for stats (for DM and player).
all wizards use the towers of high sorcery. it is a place of neutral ground amongst the ethical orders. two wizards may be tossing fireballs and lightning at eachother one month on the plains of solamnia, then the next be trading notes in wayreth. that is one of the principles of the orders of sorcery: the magic comes before all things, always. the wizards' council is made up of seven of each robe, twenty-one in all. par-salian even had a triste in his younger days with a black-robed lady.
Spoilers
While this is true now, it seems to be changing with the events happening in Mina's trilogy. Nuitari had the Tower of IStar restored (albeit under the blood sea), and kept this information from Lunitari and Solinari. This has caused a rift between the three brothers (or at least that is the impression expressed in the books). Now Mina has raised the tower from the ocean floor and it is now visible to all who pass it. The tower of Palanthas was moved from Palanthas to Nightlund for its own protection by Dalamar. Now Dalamar did conceal its location from everyone including other wizards even after the gods returned citing that he would reveal the location after the conclave was restored. Well the conclave was restored and as of yet he has not revealed its location (at least not in any novel). Now it can be assumed that he will do so but this is not guaranteed. If Dalamar does reveal the location then this leaves three active towers on Ansalon and with Nuitari's action in concealing the Tower of Istar it is entirely possible that each order might be assigned a tower. Now while this might not forbide wizards of different robes was using a tower assigned to another order, it might persuade them to use their own.
But yes Dalamar's and Nuitari's actions do leave the possibility that the towers might be seperated by order.
It's been a few years, but I'll see what I can remember...
One was that I was "transported" back in time (real? illusion? I don't know.) to the Second Dragon War, when terribly powerful arcane magic was used to defeat the dragons but was spiraling out of control. My task was to take a group of sorcerers who were about to lose control of their spell and teach them to work together to control it.
Another was that I found myself in the Library in Palanthas, talking to Astinus (which was very odd, given that Astinus had vanished over 20 years before my character was even born...) I had to locate something in the library using just my wits.
Another scenario involved my character facing his nemesis; that he chose mercy and to take his enemy's place in a terrible prophesy (long story) proved that my character was Good and deserved to wear the White Robes.
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Your test was hard! I think my Red Robe's test was easier.
At the moment is my part in the age of the lance (based on the Chronicals)
Can someone tell me how the situation is in the tower of high sorcery?
(what is going on there; who is leading the place there, are there famues people, little tower history, anything you can think of)
Where are they uther towers (or beter where are the rhunes of the towers)?
In the party is there a magi |levels>>>(1wiz/5 sor)| and he is at the moment on a mission but ben this is done he will searche for the tower.
My problem is that I can not think of 3 scenarios for the test.
Can someone give me soem ideas.
Here is some background of the magi > he is human. When he was 12 years old his village was under attack by goblins. He run away but somehow he gets onconsious and from the moment he gets op he only know that he run away from his attacked village >(he do not know that he has 2 sisters and a mother). By wonder, elves find him and they raised him like one of them.
He hates goblins and gullydwarfs. He has a lott of respect for the elves.
I hope someone can give my what ideas.y You don't have to base on the background, but it would be fun for him (I hope :D)
all ready thanks ;)
If your playing in the War of the Lance, then Primal Sorcery hasn't been discovered yet... Are you the DM or a Player?
Originally posted by gameld
Spoilers
While this is true now, it seems to be changing with the events happening in Mina's trilogy. Nuitari had the Tower of IStar restored (albeit under the blood sea), and kept this information from Lunitari and Solinari. This has caused a rift between the three brothers (or at least that is the impression expressed in the books). Now Mina has raised the tower from the ocean floor and it is now visible to all who pass it. The tower of Palanthas was moved from Palanthas to Nightlund for its own protection by Dalamar. Now Dalamar did conceal its location from everyone including other wizards even after the gods returned citing that he would reveal the location after the conclave was restored. Well the conclave was restored and as of yet he has not revealed its location (at least not in any novel). Now it can be assumed that he will do so but this is not guaranteed. If Dalamar does reveal the location then this leaves three active towers on Ansalon and with Nuitari's action in concealing the Tower of Istar it is entirely possible that each order might be assigned a tower. Now while this might not forbide wizards of different robes was using a tower assigned to another order, it might persuade them to use their own.
But yes Dalamar's and Nuitari's actions do leave the possibility that the towers might be seperated by order.
Just because one order has dominance in the Tower does not mean that other mages are not welcome there.
The White Robes it seem, SPOILERS, are going to cleanse the Tower of Palanthus and claim it. Wayreth will be held by the Red and the Black will have the Tower of Istar.
If your playing in the War of the Lance, then Primal Sorcery hasn't been discovered yet... Are you the DM or a Player?
I am DM and everybody thought that there are no sorcerers in the age of the despair. BUT this isn't true, there were sorcerers.
Who, you would ask??? >>> Gilthanas
He maybe a elf but he is a sorcerer. Think about it:
1) everybody have readed Dragonlance the Chronicles.
Where did Gilthanas use magic.> at Pax Tharkas, Tarsis, ect.
There were a lot of times you could read about his magic, but did you ever read of his spellbook? of the time that Gilthanas was studing his spell in his spellbook? With Raistlin we did read about his study and his spellbook, but never did the writers said something about Gilthanas!
2) The spells that Gilthanas used are not different from does who Raistlin used (only powerfuller but thats all)
for example: Gilthanas and Raistlin used both the spell: magic missile.
Gilthanas didn't use divine magic buth arcane magic, and the only 2 characters who can use arcane magic are >>> wizards and sorcerers.
So there are sorcerers in "the war of the lance", buth they have been called lesser magic-users (as Raistlin said to Fizban when Gilthanas used his magic to open the secret door). They really existed in 'the age of despair' but they were only difficult to find.
Tell me if I am wrong (both I don't think so), this is very logical, isn't it?
If you did want to use the sorcerer in earlier eras, he'd be a good example. He would also make an excellent duskblade (from Player's Handbook II) if you wanted to use a non-standard class in your campaign.
Cheers,
Cam
Gilthanas was a wizard, but he was a dabbler and didn't really put a lot of his time into it. He didn't have the commitment and you don't see much of his talent used in the War of the Lance.
If you did want to use the sorcerer in earlier eras, he'd be a good example. He would also make an excellent duskblade (from Player's Handbook II) if you wanted to use a non-standard class in your campaign.
If you read the book, it isn't very clear that Gilthanas is a wizard, not like Raistlin or Fizban. My explination would be correct, for me. The only thing where I can link Gilthanas to is a sorcerer (but that is my opition).
I didn't read anywere that Gilthanas was a wizard or a sorcerer only that he was a magic user, so maybe it will steay a secret.
but that isn't a problem to me, I like secrets :P
I didn't read anywere that Gilthanas was a wizard or a sorcerer only that he was a magic user, so maybe it will steay a secret.
I read somewhere (preludes?) that Gilthanas was invited to take the Test, but refused to do so.
Nevertheless, I like you theory of Gilthanas being a sorcerer.
If you read the book, it isn't very clear that Gilthanas is a wizard, not like Raistlin or Fizban. My explination would be correct, for me. The only thing where I can link Gilthanas to is a sorcerer (but that is my opition).
I didn't read anywere that Gilthanas was a wizard or a sorcerer only that he was a magic user, so maybe it will steay a secret.
but that isn't a problem to me, I like secrets :P
At the time the book was written, "magic user" was the only class that cast arcane spells in the game. There were no sorcerers in the 3rd edition sense.
Cheers,
Cam
he may have even been permitted to take the test. he may have even studied magic under some great elven wizards to receive his few spells that he knows. however, maybe he internalized it (thus becoming a sorc of sorts). maybe they offered him the test because they didn't know of such a distinction in arcane magics, yet. also, maybe he didn't take to magic much because ambient magic was so weak, or over-powered by the presence of the gods since they hadn't left yet, at the time that the love of it didn't consume him like it did with many other magi in the form of wizards.
i think these are all perfectly reasonable explanations for gilthanas to have a few levels of sorc instead of wizard. sounds like a fun idea.
I read somewhere (preludes?) that Gilthanas was invited to take the Test, but refused to do so.
Nevertheless, I like you theory of Gilthanas being a sorcerer.
It said in The Soulforge that Gilthanas was invited to take the Test but refused. Gilthanas was just a low-level mage who hadn't taken the test.
This is the same argument that you are making about Gilthanas. Just because the authors did not write about gilthanas studying from a spell book does not make it true. For example: If a wizard studies his spellbook and then has no reason to change or to cast his spells does he ever need to restudy his spellbook? No. So he could go for days, weaks or even months before he actually casts a spell. Raisltin casts his spells almost on a daily basis and therefore must restudy his spellbook. Also just because a dedicated wizard has no need to rememorize his spells does not mean he has no need to study his spellbook in order to learn more about magic. For all we know when Raistlin was looking at his spellbook he reading about past wizards and other spells he did not already know.
Originally posted by Treymordin
Just because one order has dominance in the Tower does not mean that other mages are not welcome there.
Not yet. But when have the three gods of music ever had such a rift between them?
See the problem with saying that Chaos energy is the source for Sorcerers and Mystic is that the Greygem while it might have contained a piece of chaos we cannot argue that energy escaped from the gem (unless you want to argue how kender, gnomes, minotaur, etc were created) then it is entirely possible that the greygem changed some people into sorcerers, hence the scions.
I know the DL is rife with discrepencies and contradictions, but that was always clear to me, maybe I was wrong *shrug*
In game terms, Gilthanas never cast 3 or higher level spells so that he did not have to take the Test. If you look at his write ups in War of the Lance era gaming products, from 1st edition to now he is listed as a wizard.
The persone loves his character, I already demanded him that he had to take one wizard-leve, so that he be allowed to take the test. And bay the way he is a member of the mages of the high sorcery now. There is no return.
In the age of despair there are sorcerers in my Dragonlance world.
I normally follow the rules and the history of dragonlance,
but what charakter is there that can cast arcane magic in the war of the lance (outside a wizard of course)???
therefor I allowed the sorcerer in the age of despair.
Otherwise the arcane-magic would be to limitied.
and I don't have all the Dragonlance books, thats why I though that Gilthanas was a sorcerer.
I always thought Sargonass created the Minotaur?
That depends on who you ask in the world. If you ask the Minotaur then yes Sargonnas created, everybody says the greygem created. Now of course this may simply be the minotaurs using wish fulfillment to show that they are Sargonnas's favored race. In the supplement "Taldas: The minotaurs" the minotaurs finally concede the point that the greygem created them from the ogres. Of course they are trying to prove the ogres were on Krynn before the elves, but they do say they were created by the passing of the greygem over Ogre fishermen and farmers.
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And wasn't the advent of sorcery only a trick caused by Takhisis to further her own cause?
Actually ambient magic has always been a part of the world of Krynn. First the gods of magic granted magic to mortals as their gift to the world. Then the scions were created from the greygem, they then taught others to use ambient magic. It is in fact the very reason that the Orders of High Sorcery were created in the first place. Three of these "wild mages" (possibly sorcerers) entombed the dragons fighting the elves during the second dragon war, unfortunately the unleased magic also ran rampant causing the populace to attack all mages (sorcerers? Warlocks? Beguilers? Seeing as how wizards were not created yet the possibilities are endless). These three mages called to the three gods of magic for help and they were led to a tower in which the gods then removed from the world and taught these mages to become wizards. When they returned it was their mission to convince other mages to accept the "newly created" rules of magic. So it would stand to reason that ambient magic was on krynn since before Takhisis's big con. Also since the event that caused the creation of the orders of high sorcery on Ansalon never happened on Taladas, it also stands to reason that ambient magic was never persecuted on taladas and therefore could theoretically still be practiced from the beginning of time to now. Also those "renegade mages" could have fled to Taldas (and other places) rather than face persecution by the orders and might have ended up on Taladas still practicing their magic.
this may be true but I am not going to change a charakter in my party. The persone loves his character, I already demanded him that he had to take one wizard-leve, so that he be allowed to take the test. And bay the way he is a member of the mages of the high sorcery now. There is no return.
In the age of despair there are sorcerers in my Dragonlance world.
Sure its your world and your game. If your group is having fun with it you should change nothing.
May I ask why does the character has to take one wizard level? According to the rules he/she would have to be able to cast at least 3rd level wizard spells and therefore should take 5 levels in wizardry. So if your are breaking the rules anyway why don't you let him/her just be a sorcerer. He/she may be unique in that Age (the sole sorcerer in Krynn!) and the orders may have accept him/her in order to study the kind of magic he/she possesses.
May I ask why does the character has to take one wizard level? According to the rules he/she would have to be able to cast at least 3rd level wizard spells and therefore should take 5 levels in wizardry. So if your are breaking the rules anyway why don't you let him/her just be a sorcerer. He/she may be unique in that Age (the sole sorcerer in Krynn!) and the orders may have accept him/her in order to study the kind of magic he/she possesses.
If you put it that way, than maybe it could also be allowed.
But I though that only wizard may do the test and he already could cast level5 sorcerer-spell, so one level wizard would be oké (for me, it is some can't of the golden mean for the rules).
But thanks Tarsam_di_Caela for giving me a other view on the sorcererproblem. I will keep it in mind and may I will change the 1 wizard-level rule went the party has new characters.
the questions was " Can a wizard only learn magic in "the towers of high sorcery" or are there magic-schools (just as in Dungeons&Dargons) in Krynn every where?
I always thought that the tower of high sorcery was a magic school where young people came to, so they could learn magic and choose there robe.
And when they are strong enough in magic use, they could take the test.
Is this true ?
If this is true>>> Why is the last available tower of high sorcery (Wayreth Tower) kept secretly in a forest? Wound it not be beter to teleport the tower to a big city or other save and common (neutral) place, so that the last tower could be use maximum.
hwo more magic-users there are that's the beter for the knowledge of magic.
Or is this a stupid way of thinking?
Cheers,
Cam
Mages learn their craft at smaller schools, often with only a handful of students or even a one-on-one mentorship. Once they've mastered the basics, and progressed (in game terms) to the point where they can begin casting the more significant spells, they take the Test. All of their education from that point on becomes self-directed, with the Towers as their combination laboratory/library/clubhouse.
and this smaller schools, where are they located?
and this smaller schools, where are they located?
All over the place. One or two in every region. Small, not well known, or fairly obscure. The kind of thing you'd have to know a mage to ask them, in other words. The Orders send people around various cities and towns, keeping an open ear to the gossip, and if they hear there's a promising student they will contact them somehow.
Read Margaret's book The Soulforge. It describes Raistlin's early life and time as a student in just such a school.
Cheers,
Cam
But I have 3 more question:
1) Can you demande a other wizard (hwo knows the location of the tower) to tell you where the tower is or put it to a duel for that information?
2) Are there gate's that lead you immediatly to the tower or in the tower?
3) I have read that they towers had a magicalprotection around them, what is the protection of the Wayreth Tower? because I don't thinks you can find the tower by accident it will protect his location and only those who are allowed to enter the tower can find his location, not?
1) Can you demande a other wizard (hwo knows the location of the tower) to tell you where the tower is or put it to a duel for that information?
If you have a right to know, you'd know.
Duelling another wizard for the answer is probably a bad idea.2) Are there gate's that lead you immediatly to the tower or in the tower?
I am sure several exist, but even they would depend upon the Tower allowing their existence (i.e. if the Tower decides you don't belong in the Tower, you don't get to use a magical portal to enter it.)
3) I have read that they towers had a magicalprotection around them, what is the protection of the Wayreth Tower? because I don't thinks you can find the tower by accident it will protect his location and only those who are allowed to enter the tower can find his location, not?
Wayreth's protection is the fact that it can move around, yes.
Cheers,
Cam
He is a True Neutral human, specialized in Transmutation. He loathes kender, and his uncle is a Solamnic Knight,who hates him.
First, he will be summoned to the Tower and will go through all the formal stuff,then he will find himself on Lunitari. Raistlin will be there, along with Caramon. Raistlin is about to blow up Lunitari, causing the pieces to destroy Krynn. He will have to stop Raistlin.
If he survives that part,he will find his uncle weilding the Staff of Magius. He will percieve that his uncle is more powerful than him and must battle him.
Then,he is turned into a Kender and is brought before the gods of magic,who offer him the choice of being restored to human form without magic, or go on studying magic as a kender.
What time period is this taking place in?
I am DMing a wizard recently and it is almost time for him to take his Test. I wanted to post my plan here and see what you all thought.
He is a True Neutral human, specialized in Transmutation. He loathes kender, and his uncle is a Solamnic Knight,who hates him.
First, he will be summoned to the Tower and will go through all the formal stuff,then he will find himself on Lunitari. Raistlin will be there, along with Caramon. Raistlin is about to blow up Lunitari, causing the pieces to destroy Krynn. He will have to stop Raistlin.
If he survives that part,he will find his uncle weilding the Staff of Magius. He will percieve that his uncle is more powerful than him and must battle him.
Then,he is turned into a Kender and is brought before the gods of magic,who offer him the choice of being restored to human form without magic, or go on studying magic as a kender.
Is all Tests this harsh? Takling a powerful wizard out of blowing up the world is obivously an illusion, but it at least tests the wizards ability to negotiate. Though I fail to see why a wizard is suposed to be a good negotiatiator, or how failure to omaniipulate the illusion puts him in mortal danger, this is a good test.
However, the rest of the test does not make sense at all. Putting a wizard in a one on one fight with a fighter with many more levels to boot than himself is simply murder.. is he even supposed to survive this? And the third test is even more absurd than the second, changing a characters race against the will of the player is a big no no. Think about it... you are most likely killing the guys character, and even if he survives he will still wish that he was dead... I know I would if I was morphed into a bloody kender :P
but don't let a normal wizard fight him. By the gods of Krynn, Raistlin is one of the most powerful wizards that ever existed. How could he possibly beat him? What level is the wizard? And what are his most powerful spells?
The uncle is a good idea but not with the staff of Magius. Let the knight become a powerful leader. Now that he has become a powerful leader (he has a number of knights at his command), he is planning to attack a magic school and the wizard that is taking the test most help the other wizards (of the school) to prevent that the school would be destroyed.Something like that is very good fot the test.
I also share the opinion of changing a characters race against the will of the player is a big no no. But the kender thing is very funny :D but I hoop the wizard will be human after the test is done. let this all be a big illusion.
leather_book_wizard you maybe a big Raistlin fan (notting wrong with that;) )
but don't let a normal wizard fight him. By the gods of Krynn, Raistlin is one of the most powerful wizards that ever existed. How could he possibly beat him? What level is the wizard? And what are his most powerful spells?.
He's not going to fight Raistlin. He has to talk to Raistlin, keep him from blowing up the Red Moon and destroying Krynn
The uncle is a good idea but not with the staff of Magius. Let the knight become a powerful leader. Now that he has become a powerful leader (he has a number of knights at his command), he is planning to attack a magic school and the wizard that is taking the test most help the other wizards (of the school) to prevent that the school would be destroyed.Something like that is very good fot the test.
That is a good idea, but it is required that the mage face another magic-user of greater power. I'll have to think of something.
I also share the opinion of changing a characters race against the will of the player is a big no no. But the kender thing is very funny :D but I hoop the wizard will be human after the test is done. let this all be a big illusion.
Of course I am not going to change him into a kender permanently. This is merely to test his dedication to the Magic.
The sorcerer/wizard that did the test want to go back to the tower of high sorcery for research on the shadow plane. The last time he has been there he was alone (fot taking the test), but now the other partymembers want to go with him! The rest of the partymembers are: a human-fighter, kender(rogue), brewing witch (wizard), half-elf druid and a female elf wizard (red robe). The only that maybe are welcome are: the brewing witch and the female elf wizard, or isn't this true? And what about the rest? (especially the kender:P and the druid)
If there are welcome in the tower, which chamers are they allow to enter and which not, because i have the map of the Wayreth Tower, but I don't find it very clear (there are to match blanco chambers, only the importent chamers are clear). Can someone give a answer or some suggestions?
I have a other question:
The sorcerer/wizard that did the test want to go back to the tower of high sorcery for research on the shadow plane. The last time he has been there he was alone (fot taking the test), but now the other partymembers want to go with him! The rest of the partymembers are: a human-fighter, kender(rogue), brewing witch (wizard), half-elf druid and a female elf wizard (red robe). The only that maybe are welcome are: the brewing witch and the female elf wizard, or isn't this true? And what about the rest? (especially the kender:P and the druid)
If there are welcome in the tower, which chamers are they allow to enter and which not, because i have the map of the Wayreth Tower, but I don't find it very clear (there are to match blanco chambers, only the importent chamers are clear). Can someone give a answer or some suggestions?
As a rule, kender are usually not allowed in the Tower of High Sorcery. Nonmages are not usually allowed within the Tower either, but if the matter is of extreme importance exceptions can be made.
For the kender I maybe have a funny soluction:D
the wizard that will welcome them will lead them to there rooms.
Next to there rooms stays a black robe wizard and he hates all kender and will not allow the kender to enter his room of a other one. So he give the kender a little precent.:evillaugh
he gives him the ring of locking
Ring of Locking This is a cursed ring: Upon first inspection, this ring appears to be a ring of Arcane Lock. However, after putting it on, the true effects are obvious.
Effect One: Open/Close spell is a permenantly around you, however you cannot control it and it never opens, only closes all doors, chests, and portals within 30 ft of you as the spell. Effect Two: Every door, chest, portal that you attempt to open is Arcane Locked. However, unlike the spell, YOU are the only one that can not open it. All others can bypass it freely (unless it has another lock preventing it).
The simplest thing to do is not allow them in the Tower
You are right, it is the simplest thing.
I will only allow the arcane magic-user in the tower.
thanks for your answer.;)
I realy love the magic in DL and I always want to know everything of it.
So the tower is one of my favorite subjects, every time a learn something new from you.
But still I have a lot of questions (they are not always link to the tower of high sorcery)
If a wizard take the test as a white robe, can he later on chose a other robe order?, and if he can hwo many times can he change from order? because Raistlin turned form the red robe order to the black robe order but I am not sure (because of>>> Fistandantilus)
what are the consequence ???
but thanks for that exp penalthy and spells that doesn't work any more.
I will be more carefull with my questions next time
if you still think you can tell me something els of it and it is allowed pleas let me know.
Technically speaking there are two tests in the history of Krynn.
The most commonly known test is the test of the towers of high sorcery which are for admitance in the wizardly orders of high sorcery.
The other test which is commonly confused by most folk as the test of high sorcery was the test given to sorcerers during the age of mortals prior to the War of the souls. Ths test was administered by the Academy of Sorcery and strangely enough tested the same beliefs and concepts that are tested during the test of High Sorcery used by the orders of Magic.
Now the academy of sorcery was destroyed, but should that academy ever be reestablished it is quite possible that this test will reappear. After all, the Orders of High Sorcery were disbanded and they have returned so why shouldn't the academy make a reappearance. Should this ever happen it may be a way for the Wizards and Sorcerers to work together.
This is because Palin founded the academy of Sorcery. It makes sense that he would model it after what he missed most and what he knew best.
and to get there, soem questions :P
if a wizard becomes a member of the mages of the high sorcery, how can a normal person or other wizards reconize this?
And what if a mage is far away from the tower, and the concuel calls all the mages of high sorcery togetter, does this mage have to stop with his activety and come as quicklyto the tower or would he been teleport? and a gathering of the mages is it alway in one of the towers or can it also be on a other (holy)place for mages?
bay the way last saterday it was a eclipse of the moon, it was raelly beautiful
, first ther was the white moon then the black moon and then the red moon came, a little bith of dragonlance world in ower world. I could feel the magic of the gods :Dhehehe that's true, up to the 100 and beyond:D
and to get there, soem questions :P
if a wizard becomes a member of the mages of the high sorcery, how can a normal person or other wizards reconize this?
And what if a mage is far away from the tower, and the concuel calls all the mages of high sorcery togetter, does this mage have to stop with his activety and come as quicklyto the tower or would he been teleport? and a gathering of the mages is it alway in one of the towers or can it also be on a other (holy)place for mages?
bay the way last saterday it was a eclipse of the moon, it was raelly beautiful
Normal people couldn't tell a wizard of a High Sorcery from a normal wizard. Other WoHS would know. The mage would have to do everything he could to get to the Tower. I wizard he doesn't answer a summons from the Conclave he is dubbed a renegade.
I always took it that a mage who was in trouble for doing something bad against their Order or Magic in general and refused a summons from the Conclave to defend themselves was branded a renegade, at least that is how I read the material.
but if the wizard cant come to the conclave, and he has a very good reason for example: the village where he is at the moment is under attack of a enemy army, or he is very ill. Is this a good excuse? to not become a renegade wizard.
Are there clans or organisations that want to destroy the mages of high sorcery??? I thought I readed somewhere but I am not sure. Can someone tell me a little over this organisations? I wonder way some people want to destroy the Conclave? Bay the way has the Conclave of the wizards have any allies?
The Knights of the Thorn want to destroy the Wizards. At certain times in the history of Krynn, clerics of good have wanted to as well.
The clerics I understand (>>>just lock to the kingpriest-story), but way those the Knights of the Thorn hate them?
Can someone tell me a little background?,
maybe I can use this in my world or didn't the knights of the Thorn existe in the age of "the war of the lance"?
Up to the next 100 :D wizard-fans:P
a other question (because we have to reach 200 :P )
If a wizard is doing the test of high sorcery, does this has any effect on the world krynn? I mine that if a wizard meets a person that he knows (during the test) and he kills him or betray that person, will the person die in the real world directly or will nothing happend with this person and lives on?
The test is real but also illusion for the wizard.
if the wizard you play becomes a "renegade wizard" how can he become again a respectable wizard and dont have the titel of renegade wizard anymore? What does he have to do or can't he do nothing to change it?
hey people,
a other question (because we have to reach 200 :P )
If a wizard is doing the test of high sorcery, does this has any effect on the world krynn? I mine that if a wizard meets a person that he knows (during the test) and he kills him or betray that person, will the person die in the real world directly or will nothing happend with this person and lives on?
The test is real but also illusion for the wizard.
Nothing will happen to the real person if their illusion is killed during the Test. Look at Raistlin's Test. He "killed" Caramon (His illusion) during the Test, but Caramon is still around after the Test is over.
if the wizard you play becomes a "renegade wizard" how can he become again a respectable wizard and dont have the titel of renegade wizard anymore? What does he have to do or can't he do nothing to change it?
It depends on why he was branded a rengade. He can atone to the Conclave for his crimes, take the Test and join the ranks of High Sorcery, etc.
The female elf is qualnesti and would like to wear the red robes.
The male human wears the white robes.
1)Can someone give me some ideas for the change that the test did upon them?
p.s.: 2) The brewing witch will not do the test but is she now a renegade wizard??? Or not because she isn't a real wizard! (bay the way she can already use level 3 spells, for example: a fireball is for here a potion of Nitroglycerine. the potions are sometimes more like sciene than magic)
1)And what will the Tower Wizards do to late her take the test?
2)How do they normally handel? I don't think they will go directly in combat with her but first talk, or am I wrong?
3)Bay the way ....> How are the Tower Wizards? Are they the wizards of the conclave or are they a special Unit of the organitition of the tower?
4) And if she takes the test what would be a good Test for her, because I can't late her take a normal test>>> she isn't a normal wizard, a lot of spell she cant cast (some type of spells can be brew in a potion; for example:a magis missile she can not cast, but a enlarge person spell she can). they 3 elements of a test, (knowledge, power and strength) most be kept.
Some ideas ?
Can u pretent to be a Tower wizard and a I will act as the brewing Witch.
( a theoritical rolplay)
For example: you as tower wizard saw that the witch destoyed a draconian with her potions. You saw that she is a powerful wizard, and you want to convince her to go with you to the tower and late take her the Test.
How will you handel it, to talk to her? (she is a totally stranger to you >>> so you must act like in a rolplay, the robe you wear doesn't mather I think. the witch is normally a red robe).
I will answer in our convercation and questions as the brewing witch. She is sometime very rude. (she is not evil but something like Raistlin>>> selfish)
What color of robes do you want me to wear?
Oke the robe make a great difference:P (srry)
I would like you to play a red rob or a black.
The white robe I think will be very friendly and will do everything follows the rules, how a red or black robe will handel I don't know.
So, you can play a red or black robe. We will begin first with one of this 2 colors and than we can do it for they other robes.
I just wait on your first words as a red or black robe tower wizard.(Just pick one;) )
Greetings my lady, I could not help but notice that you were able to use magic in a very untraditional form, From where did you learn this ability?
RED ROBE
Greetings my lady, I could not help but notice that you were able to use magic in a very untraditional form, From where did you learn this ability?
Well, I learn it from madam Tiffany, she was my mistress. And how want to know this all? (she looks very currieus at the red robe)
RED ROBE
Greetings my lady, I could not help but notice that you were able to use magic in a very untraditional form, From where did you learn this ability?
Well, I learned it from madam Tiffany, she was my mistress. And how want to know this all? (she looks very currieus at the red robe)
(srry, double posted)
That name does not ring familiar in mine ears as a teacher approved by the Conclave and that spell you used was well beyond the means of a Hedge Wizard. I offer you two choices, go to the Tower of Wayreth to be Tested or the other has more dire consequences for you.
That doesn't surprise me, she die a long time ago.
Besides, how are you to command me?
And bay the way I don't like towers and castles, sorry.
And if you would exuce me but I don't have much time.
(the witch looks suspicion at you, wake away from the red robe wizard and moves slowly her hand in her backpack)
I find this very interesting and it is a lot of fun, rolpaly on internet :P, how will the red robe act? to be continue
bay the way, good rolplaying Treymordin;)
Pointing at the renegade, STOP, or suffer the consequences.
hihihi(witch laugh), I though you would say that.
The witch throws a potion to the red robe.
Wizard dimension doors out of the way.
The potion exploded right next the wizard. (fireball potion)
the witch runs away and drinks a other potion.
Points at witch, DIE! "POWER WORD KILL"
the witch falls to the ground. But than flames arise around her.
She stand back where she was. 'So that phoenix potion did his work, but now I really have to go. The witch drinks a other potion. A white flash and the witch is gone.
bay the way, of the red robe uses a power WORD KILL spell, don't he has to say the witch her name???
:DPhoenix potion?
This a potion that she got from her mistress. It is the only potion she has of that kind ( it is a level 9 potion).
the potion most be taken before you die. If you die you get a second live and the potion has work out. The potion is rare, because you need phoenix ashes or a feather of a phoenis to brew the potion. If a person is already death and you give him the potion the potion doesn't work.
Black robes would probably cast fewer but more deadly spells.
Isn't POWER WORD KILL deadly enough?:D
Leowar, I think you would enjoy a traditional Dragonlance game so much.
White Robe would try to convince her to join and then report her to the nearest Tower. Guess what happens next? Red and Black Robe wizards would be sent out to stop her.
Oh, and there are no phonixes in Krynn.
Leowar, I think you would enjoy a traditional Dragonlance game so much.
I also think but than I would definitively would be a BLACK ROBE. Bay the way I love to be a DM, and my goal is to late more people discover the Dragonlance world. ( My rolplay friends:D YOU WILL FEAR ME:D )
She did attack first. :D
White Robe would try to convince her to join and then report her to the nearest Tower. Guess what happens next? Red and Black Robe wizards would be sent out to stop her.
Oh, and there are no phonixes in Krynn.
Now you say so, she did :D. But that was because the red robe threaten her:P
And I always thought there where Phonixes on the other continents.
Black Robes are great but Red are cooler!
Probably I would start as a red robe but I would die as a black robe.
He threatned because she walked away.
She doesn't hate the towers or the tower wizards but she don't want to anything with it. She has the idea, "if I leave them alone, than they will also leave me alone."
If she would say that to a tower wizard, How would he answer on this theory of her?
Depends on the color of robes and the wizard. They would all consider her dangerous.
I don't find the brewing witch a dangerous threat.
There is only one brewing witch on Krynn, and how many tower wizards???
there are definitively more tower wizards, so why would the witch be a threat?
The tower wizards have power enough, power that the witch will never have (don't forget thet she cannot cast al the spells).I maybe have a solution:
If the brewing witch helps the tower went the tower wizards ask her, and because of her help she doesn't have to do the Test.
I would be a kind of agreement between the witch and the tower wizards.
She helps them and the wizards do not force her to take the test.
the wizards respect her and the witch respect them.
Would this not be a 'peaceful' solution?
(I have never read of clerics of the gods of magic, who they existe?)
And if she gets respons of the gods directly? Could this happen.
Or if she ask to take to the conlave for 'peaceful' solution?
(I am almost out of idea's for the witch:D )
If she does not take the Test she will be hunted until they get her, and they will get her.
I am afraid that she is going have to take the test.
Hopelly I wasn't to difficult on this subject.
Did they conclave every attack Raistlin?
The easiest solution is just to state that the brewing witch doesn't exist in the setting to begin with.
Cheers,
Cam
at the moment the witch haven't meet a tower wizard, but she will soon meet the companions. Would Raistlin tell about the tower so that the witch and they other magic-users would go to the tower (and take the test).
my party did alreday meet Fizban but normally he is a god but if he walks the world of krynn (in the war of the lance and not the after the war of soulce) would he be consider as a tower wizard if he is in his Fizban-form?
It sounds that if she is going to become a renegade either way and she decides to take the Test, the Test just might off her.
she decides to take the Test, the Test just might off her.
What do you mean with that last phrase?
but I would find it very sad because I really like the witch (In some way she is just like Raistlin, the way she acts and thinks)
When you where a Wizard, Treymordin, did there ever happend something strange in a tower went you where there. Like a strange experiment that has gone wrong? or something els?
I didn't know that. But I most admite that you know a lot of the towers and wizards.
my party did already meet Fizban but normally he is a god but, if he walks the world of krynn (in the war of the lance and not the after the war of souls) would he be consider as a tower wizard if he is in his Fizban-form?
Did fizban ever went to one of the towers?
Leowar, what part of Belgium are you from? I spent about a week in Luven a few years ago.
I am from antwerp, a know a few friends that are also in Leuven.( Leuven=Luven I expect) Why do you ask?
Lueven has a lot of Universities, in belgium leuven is also called the university city. But I find Antwerpen very beautiful, certainly the cathedral of Antwerp (she is unique she has only one tower) for the antwerpers the cathedral is like the tower of high sorcery for the wizards:D
Because if the know it:
1) why didn't they help the elven king Lorac?, they could have sent a group of tower wizards to him to help him with the orb and maybe Silvenasti didn't fall under the great illusion effect.
2) why didn't they do something to stop the dark elf Feal-Thas (Highlord of the White Dragonarmy)? I don't think that the conclave would have allowed a enemy wizard to have a dragon orb. this would surely be a threat to the tower wizards!
Could someone give me some explinations for this 2 theories???
that is correct;) and don't forget the beer and the frites.
Lueven has a lot of Universities, in belgium leuven is also called the university city. But I find Antwerpen very beautiful, certainly the cathedral of Antwerp (she is unique she has only one tower) for the antwerpers the cathedral is like the tower of high sorcery for the wizards:D
Is it Antwerpen that has the Mannqin ****?
Is it Antwerpen that has the Mannqin ****?
No Manneke ***(=Mannqin ****) is in Brussel, and brussel is the capital of Belgium.
Antwerpen is the big city of Vlaanderen, it is a harbourcity.
Antwerpen is also know of the 'Schelde', the Schelde is the rivier pour in the Noordsea.
I am sure you would like Antwerpen (for a big part the city has still have a lot of building out of the Middle Ages)
1) But what about the dragon orb in high cleric tower? Would they didn't know that?
2) In the time of the war of the lance, With what were they busy (with they I mean the conclave)?
3) Would the conclave have a back up plan if the high cleric tower would have fallen? Because if the knights of S. would been defeated, the wizard would lesser change to defeat the dark queen.
Second: an answer, no the conclave never did attack Raistlin.
Third: A clarification, during the heighth of their power yes, the tower wizards would not hesitate to attack the witch, however with their current crisis (namely having to rebuild their power base; recruits, recover the towers, establish relations with governments, etc...) they would probably just keep tabs on her until, and if, she ever became a threat to the towers, at which time they would approach her with either the offer to join and then move to eliminate her.
Think of renegades as small trash can fires versus a full blown 5-alarm fire in a forest. The first are fairly easy to control and estinguish without too much attention where as the forest fire can be seen for miles (attracting attention regardless of the action you take; either letting it burn itself out or attempting to stop it yourself) and is one hell of a lot harder to put out.
If there are no phoenixes on krynn, how would Habbakuk's followers know that it was a blue "phoenix" rather than a blue "jay." And before you say that Habbakuk would just tell his followers that he was a phoenix, if he did that, wouldn't he have to explain to them what a phoenix is?
Oh, and I take it that you also do not have the Holy orders of the Stars sourcebook, where the followers of Habbakuk PRC is "Phoenix of Habbakuk" and it goes on to describe the Phoenix as a legendary creature of rebirth and renewal (of course they might be talking about the blue phonix rather than the more commonly recognized phoenix.
And yes, during the War of the Lance time period the wizards would not hesitate to remove the witch, of course officially during said time period it was not possible for something like the witch to exist (if she is using sorcery rather than wizardry).
She is a special class of a wizard, because she have to brew here potion every day, she has a cookbook(=spellbook for the witch), she learns new magic-potion out of books and don't get them naturely like a sorcerer.
But a conclusion on the brewing witch problem is:
If the witch does not want to take the test she will we killed or banished from krynn. If she takes the test and survive it, she will become a mage of the order of high sorcery. And for the moment she will be respected by the white and red robes, the black robes will see her already from the beginning like a 'regenade wizard'. This is tha way the brewing witch will be walk my Dragonlance world.
For those how are curieus and want to know what will happen in the future with my party (including the brewing witch :P), the conclave of high sorcery will order the female wizard, male wizard/sor and brewing witch (if she takes the test:D) to retrieve the dragon orb that the dark elf Feal-Thas has. After that they will also go to white stone counsel. They will be (half-)heros of the lance.
You may still give comments or offers.;)
Just because she passes the Test, Leowar, does not assure that mages will respect her since her spell casting mode is so varied from theirs.
Leowar, what part of Belgium are you from? I spent about a week in Luven a few years ago.
I didn't know that Trey! Me personally, I have never been anywhere out of the US, but if there was any place I'd go, it would probably be London. The architecture is just amazing.
(Plus, I understand the ladies are gorgeous.)
Other than that, that's really the only thing I can comment on. I kind of feel left out when you guys talk about campaigns and whatnot, because I've never done anything like that. The farthest my DragonLance experience has gone is reading the books. If I had the opportunity, I would certainly do something like that, but thus far, I've never gotten to.
Hmm, she brews her spells everyday? Is that like the brew potion feat? If so, what is the xp cost? I know that there was a candle spell caster in Tome and Blood and that also took xp to cast because you had to create the candles like either potions or scrolls.
Her potions do not cost xp., because it wouldn't be normal than, her potions works only 24hours and than the magic is out of the liquid. Just like a wizard have to study every day his spells, she have to brew every day her potions.
If she have to pay for every potion xp, every day, she will never go level up.
If she create a potion that is not in her spellbook, it cost xp. but that system is a little change than brew potion feat. She first have to roll a procent-roll, if she fails in that she cant brew that spell in a potion-form. if she succesed on the roll, she can brew the potion and have to pay xp. cost.
Just because she passes the Test, Leowar, does not assure that mages will respect her since her spell casting mode is so varied from theirs.
that is way I wrote, 'for the moment' she will be respected by the white and red robes, the black robes will see her already from the beginning like a 'regenade wizard'. The future will tell if the witch will do more for the tower of high sorcery to gain more respect or do nothing for the high sorcery towers and will soon called a regenade wizard in all orders.
Does something special happen on the night of the eye?
Leowar, what edition are you playing?
I play with the 3.5 edition. and I use the updates of the dungeon and dragon site. Treymordin, what edition are you playing?
Leowar, I am not sure if they have DL products in Belgium and I know that customs and postage over the ocean is horrendous, I used to live on Vatican property, so you might want to get some of the products on .pdf file and that might help you immensely.
Can you help me with that? because I must admite that I don't know what pdf file are, :embarrass
but I am always very interesting to learn something new, so tell me pleas.
A pdf file is something that you can read only, and you need Abode or Adobe Acrobat to be able to open.
Thanks for telling me, I have Abode on my computer. thanks again Treymordin
Can someone tell me how the wizards blow up, the 2 towers in the time of the kingpriest ?(the towers that where destroyed to fear the kingpriest)
Can someone tell me how the wizards blow up, the 2 towers in the time of the kingpriest ?(the towers that where destroyed to fear the kingpriest)
With magic. :D
A wave of pure magic that destoys everything it encounter.
I also would probable think at a atomic bomb or hydrogen bomb.
Could one wizard destroy the tower in secret or does he always have to be with more than 1 wizard to channel the magic in the heartstone of the tower?
Because if one wizard could do it and would like to take revenge at come more powerfull wizards, this could be a serious danger, not?
Well respond to this and you will have it.:D :D
for example: If you are a mage of high sorcery, can you build up a career in the towers of high sorcery?
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I feel so exposed!
*Or however the sunblock numbering system works.
I wear SPF 250*: Pale beyond Recognition.
*Or however the sunblock numbering system works.
Wikipedia my friend. It's how I got through college ^.^
On the one hand, the amazon beauties are impressed.[/QUO
Poor things died laughing.
I was on holiday in Italy, but now I am back and beter than ever before.:D
Just teleporting all over Krynnand than back to home, sweet home.
*Click*