Updates on Spelljammer website

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#1

zombiegleemax

Nov 04, 2006 21:00:07
Ya'know, there hasn't been a upadate on the SJ: Beyond the Moons website for a long time. Comments?
#2

maldin

Nov 05, 2006 15:45:01
If whoever is maintaining the site wishes to put up a link to my Spelljammer ships webpage, they're more then welcome. I'll post an announcement to the SJ ships' thread in this forum when I get a chance to finish the next one in the series.
http://melkot.com/mechanics/sj-ships.html

Denis, aka "Maldin"
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Maldin's Greyhawk http://melkot.com
#3

bigmac

Nov 25, 2006 13:24:18
Ya'know, there hasn't been a upadate on the SJ: Beyond the Moons website for a long time. Comments?

Beyond the Moons is a fan driven site - new content comes from material submitted by Spelljammer fans.

A lot of that material comes from the Spelljammer Mailing List (SJML). The list has been busy since I last read my posts, but I'm not sure how much of that has been general discussion and how much has been completed and tested material suitible for submission to Beyond the Moons.

If you have any home made material that you think can be used by Beyond the Moons then please let them know about it. If your material isn't finished it still might be able to be uploaded to The Drawing Board in the Lost Spheres section.

If whoever is maintaining the site wishes to put up a link to my Spelljammer ships webpage, they're more then welcome. I'll post an announcement to the SJ ships' thread in this forum when I get a chance to finish the next one in the series.
http://melkot.com/mechanics/sj-ships.html

Denis, aka "Maldin"
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Maldin's Greyhawk http://melkot.com

Please see the BtM Submissions Guidlines to find out how to get your ships put onto Beyond the Moons. (I've already added your website to my own links.)

In your case, you probably don't need to go through the SJML to get your page proofread (but you might want to tell them about your page anyway). However, the Council will probably need to work out how to use your material. An external link to your page from the "Additional Material" section of the "Ships of Wildspace" page would seem like a logical place for them to mention you, but please look around BtM and see if you can find a better place or a better way for your material to be used.
#4

maldin

Nov 27, 2006 1:05:43
Please see the BtM Submissions Guidlines to find out how to get your ships put onto Beyond the Moons. (I've already added your website to my own links.)

In your case, you probably don't need to go through the SJML to get your page proofread (but you might want to tell them about your page anyway). However, the Council will probably need to work out how to use your material. An external link to your page from the "Additional Material" section of the "Ships of Wildspace" page would seem like a logical place for them to mention you, but please look around BtM and see if you can find a better place or a better way for your material to be used.

Hehee. I don't think I need to ask for my website to be proofread either. ;) No, I'm not looking to submit material. I have a website. I was only suggesting that they may be interested in putting up a link to my site somewhere on the Beyond the Moons site. I'll send them an email, now that you mention it (and now that I found the contact address).

I didn't realize there was an active SJ list out there. The SJ Egroups list seems to have virtually no activity at all, and this board doesn't see a whole lot of activity compared to the other setting boards. I'll look into signing up. Members there may be interested in my new models. If no one there has mentioned it yet, could someone post the link to that list?

Denis, aka "Maldin"
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Maldin's Greyhawk http://melkot.com
Loads of edition-independent Greyhawk goodness... maps, magic, mysteries, mechanics, and more! Including Spelljammer ship models.
#5

jaid

Nov 27, 2006 10:28:37
Hehee. I don't think I need to ask for my website to be proofread either. ;) No, I'm not looking to submit material. I have a website. I was only suggesting that they may be interested in putting up a link to my site somewhere on the Beyond the Moons site. I'll send them an email, now that you mention it (and now that I found the contact address).

I didn't realize there was an active SJ list out there. The SJ Egroups list seems to have virtually no activity at all, and this board doesn't see a whole lot of activity compared to the other setting boards. I'll look into signing up. Members there may be interested in my new models. If no one there has mentioned it yet, could someone post the link to that list?

Denis, aka "Maldin"
============================
Maldin's Greyhawk http://melkot.com
Loads of edition-independent Greyhawk goodness... maps, magic, mysteries, mechanics, and more! Including Spelljammer ship models.

SJ mailing list.

don't think i've noticed anyone mention them. it doesn't get too many posts on a daily basis, (ranges from about 0 to 8 on most days since i've been on the list), but it is definitely much more active on the whole than the SJ boards.
#6

bigmac

Nov 28, 2006 18:20:11
I didn't realize there was an active SJ list out there.

Ah. Clearly you have not heard that I am attempting to collect bookmarks for every single Spelljammer website in the world and put them into my Yahoo bookmarks.

;)

See my sig for the Spelljammer websites I have so far.

I now have so many Spelljammer links that I have put some into folders to make them easier to find. I've got links to the free TSR downloads there as well as it isn't easy to tell which ones have some Spelljammer content from the descriptions on the WotC page.

The SJ Egroups list seems to have virtually no activity at all, and this board doesn't see a whole lot of activity compared to the other setting boards.

Hang on...'SJ Egroup'? I've not heard of that and I can't find it on google (although I've seen other people mention it). What is their website address?

SJ mailing list.

That is a page about the SJML on Beyond the Moons (BtM). The Spelljammer mailing list has changed servers several times over the years but you can find back ups of all the emails from every server at this page. However, for the current mailing list (called the Oracle mailing list and hosted by Wizards of the Coast) there is always a delay between things being posted and arriving on that BtM page.

You can see the most recent posts, as well as subscribe, unsubscribe or change your mail settings on this SJ mailing list page. However the direct Oracle website is less easy to navigate than the BtM archive (of the SJML) and doesn't contain any posts from the previous servers. So I would suggest you bookmark both pages and search the Oracle page for anything you can't find at BtM's SJML page.

By the way Wizards of the Coast's Oracle server also has mailing lists for many other out of print TSR settings. It isn't easy to find them from the main Wizards of the Coast page, but you can see them all on the strangely named List Archives at ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM page. Although it seems to just be a list of archives, you can actually subscribe to any of the lists on the pages that it links to. Just click on the name of any list you are interested in and the controls will be on its page.

The Al Qadim mailing list is especially interesting, because this out of print setting currently gets no support on the Wizards COMmunity boards and if you are a fan of out of print Forgotten Realms alternate campaign settings this is the only official support that is currently available. Given the large amount of support they give in print FR stuff, I think this is an accidental oversight on someone's part. I recently found a thread in the FR forum where you could talk to FR writers and Rich Baker was there. After I wrote about the problem he said he is going to ask the WotC webmaster if they can start up forums for Al Qadim, Arcane Age, The Horde, Kara-Tur and Maztica. Hopefully they will listen to him as I'd like to chat to Kara-Tur fans about the Shou empire. (And I would also fancy playing in a retro-Spelljammer campaign set back in the Arcane Age. Imagine trading with the Netheril empire of Toril, fighting the 1st Unhuman War or visiting the three giant worlds of 'Astromundispace' before the Cataclysm turned them into Clusterspace - now that's something I'd love to see on Beyond the Moons.)

don't think i've noticed anyone mention them. it doesn't get too many posts on a daily basis, (ranges from about 0 to 8 on most days since i've been on the list), but it is definitely much more active on the whole than the SJ boards.

There is actually an alternative version of the forum homepage (somewhere) that gives out links of both the forums and the mailing lists of out of print settings. However I don't think you can get there easily from the main WotC website. I can't remember how I stumbled onto it, but it is where I found the page for all the Oracle mailing lists I mentioned above. I often find it easier to navigate to older WotC pages (including the ones that mention Spelljammer) with Google Toolbar.

However, this forum does have a link to Beyond the Moons and that site has had a link to the SJML on its homepage for as long as I can remember.
#7

maldin

Nov 28, 2006 18:42:26
Nice collection of links, bigmac!

The SJ Egroup can be found at http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/spelljammer/

Denis, aka "Maldin"
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Maldin's Greyhawk http://melkot.com
#8

bigmac

Nov 28, 2006 19:35:34
Nice collection of links, bigmac!

The SJ Egroup can be found at http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/spelljammer/

Thanks for the complement (and the link). That egroup is now a Yahoo group. I've seen them before and thought I added them. I must have hesitated because they are using "Into the Void" (which is also used by someone else) as part of their new name.
#9

jaid

Nov 29, 2006 22:34:55
i should point out that the link i provided does in fact have, as the first heading "join the mailing list" as a link (or some such phrase).

which, unsurprisingly, takes you to the form you need to fill out to join the SJ email list :P
#10

bigmac

Dec 04, 2006 13:27:03
i should point out that the link i provided does in fact have, as the first heading "join the mailing list" as a link (or some such phrase).

which, unsurprisingly, takes you to the form you need to fill out to join the SJ email list :P

Yes you are right. I wasn't trying to imply that your link was no good.

I was merely pointing out that BtM's SJML page didn't have the recent posts in it's archive but the Oracle page I quoted does. My page also has a link to join the list.

I think that anyone new to the list should bookmark both of our links so that they can search both new and old SJML posts.
#11

qstor

Jan 11, 2007 19:44:38
There was a bunch of 3.5 conversion attempts in spring last year. Has any of those posts been moved to Beyond the Moons?

Mike
#12

bigmac

Feb 24, 2007 15:33:23
Sorry for the delay in replaying. I've been busy and haven't been onto the boards for a while. And I recently heard from Static (the guy who adds updates Beyond the Moons) that he is busy too.

I was part of the effort to work on the spell conversions, so I'll have to go and check that we got them all done (their might be a few that we didn't finish with). I think that the spells relating to ships were also a problem, as the ship conversion might need to alter some of the terms.

There was talk of one or more spelljammer clerical domain(s) and I'm not sure if that ever got fully dealt with, however, the conversion effort is something that can be done in steps. Clerical domains can be looked into after the original spells are converted (and any suggested new spells are given a good amount of peer review, and play testing).

As far as I know nobody submitted the spells to Static, so he might not actually know about them yet. I know that someone said that they put them on their website, but they mixed in a bunch of fan spells with the conversions.

The original posts have all been archived, so they haven't been lost, but they will need to be compiled into a logical order before they can be submitted to Beyond the Moons. 3e organises spells differently to 2e so we need to put them all into alphabetical order and then create several (spellcasting) class specific lists that are similar to those in the PHB.

Look out for the spells in Chapter 8 of Player's Guide to Spelljammer. That is where Static will put them when they are edited into the correct order.

(Note that this is not the same thing as Jim Kersh's Conversion of Spelljammer Spells to 3e, which was done back in 2004 and actually includes some new spells as well as conversions. If you want to run a 3e SJ game now you could use Jim's conversions and/or the ones on Shattered Fractine.)
#13

theyeti1775

Feb 28, 2007 11:44:45
bigmac,
Just joined your yahoo group, I'll have a look around later tonight. :D
Yeti
#14

bigmac

Mar 24, 2007 11:35:54
bigmac,
Just joined your yahoo group, I'll have a look around later tonight. :D
Yeti

Thanks for joining. Although, you don't actually need to join to look at my Spelljammer links.

PS: Us mind flayers need to stick together. ;)