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Poll: Where do you think Wizards will do with Ravenloft

Post/Author/DateTime Post
#1
yawbus_bug
Nov 06, 2006 21:32:04 Since WW stop Ravenloft & Wizards made something for RL What will be done next?????????????
#2
The_Jester
Nov 07, 2006 0:08:13 Nothing. Nothing at all.

At most, a veiled reference or two in future products: a line reference to the Mists or a dark demiplane. Perjaps a nod in future issues of Dungeon with a few prestige classes or monsters in Dragon, typically around October when the scary Halloween campaign setting is dragged out from the closet and put on display.
Then, in five or more years it'll slowly become more and more forgotten like Dark Sun, Mystara or Blackmoore.
#3
dwarfpcfan
Nov 07, 2006 6:53:54 If you check the books section in this site

You'll find that they will release around May if I remember correctly
Vampire of the Mist and
I Strad, Journal of a vampire

Thats about it...
#4
lord_of_the_seven_towers_dup
Nov 09, 2006 8:48:59 I just surfed over to find out whether anyone had heard anything on this subject. I didn't expect that Wizards would be doing anything with the setting, post EtCR.

But then I took a trip over amazon, and it seems that they are re-printing some of the novels. Death of a Darklord and I, Strahd are already out and To Sleep With Evil and Tapestry of Dark Souls are coming next year.

I couldn't help but get excited that something may well happen with the setting after all. To be honest though I imagine that 'Jester' is right, unless another company produces enough cash to buy the license.
#5
cat_god
Nov 15, 2006 21:46:07 Are they going to reprint 'Knight of the Black Rose?'
#6
lord_of_the_seven_towers_dup
Nov 16, 2006 3:17:16 Not that I'm aware of, but they certainly should, Knight/Spectre of the Black Rose are both ace Ravenloft titles.

To be honest they seem to have picked some of the slightly less well known novels for the first batch of re-printing, I wonder whether or not they needed consent from the authors and couldn't get it for all of the most famous volumes.

I wouldn't have thought so though, I'm pretty surer Wizards must own the whole lot outright, maybe however is behind the scheme just really likes those particular books.
#7
darkor
Nov 16, 2006 14:25:26 Chances are low for the Knight/Spectre of the black rose to be reprint because of the "Soth never was in Ravenloft" thing. I know, it's sad. But with I Strahd, I'm ok ^^
#8
john_w._mangrum
Nov 17, 2006 6:41:03
To be honest they seem to have picked some of the slightly less well known novels for the first batch of re-printing, I wonder whether or not they needed consent from the authors and couldn't get it for all of the most famous volumes.

Less well-known novels perhaps, but they tend to be from better-known authors.
#9
buried_by_books
Nov 17, 2006 7:32:59
Chances are low for the Knight/Spectre of the black rose to be reprint because of the "Soth never was in Ravenloft" thing. I know, it's sad. But with I Strahd, I'm ok ^^

Next month's Dragon will have an article updating the "World Serpent Inn". The teaser (in the current issue) states there will be a Ravenloft cross-over detailing Soth's shadowy replacment (or words to that effect -- sorry I don't have my copy with me so I can only paraphrase).

So it looks like someone at Wizards still conciders Soth to have been in Ravenloft!
#10
rotipher
Nov 17, 2006 11:21:47 The Great Soth debate is a dead horse. When Weis and Hickman came back to the D&D fold, they COULD potentially have demanded that WotC not only return Soth to their control, but also proclaim he'd never been in Ravenloft in the first place. They didn't hold out for re-writing official game-history that way, when they had the chance, so they obviously didn't care as much about the issue as most of the people who argue about it on these boards.
#11
buried_by_books
Nov 17, 2006 12:29:46 I agree, darklords come and darklords go (and looking cynically Soth was an attempt to woo the Dragonlance players to RL with a crossover).

But re-starting that conversation wasn't really my point, I was drawing attention to the upcoming Dragon #351 article -- while the setting may be in a limbo Paizo have at least one more support article -- It may be only a paragraph, it may be a near exact copy of the WW material, or it may be a full new Sithicus gazetteer -- we'll find out next month.
#12
gonzoron
Nov 17, 2006 14:21:33 We actually know a bit more. See the author's comments here:

http://www.fraternityofshadows.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3822
#13
zombiegleemax
Nov 17, 2006 17:18:27
Less well-known novels perhaps, but they tend to be from better-known authors.

Though I suspect anyone who's reading the current Laurell K Hamilton books is going to be surprised by the lack of foot-long schlongs in Death of a Darklord.
#14
lord_of_the_seven_towers_dup
Nov 18, 2006 16:21:10 JWM: Good point, I guess they're not trying to sell the books to Ravenloft fans, or even DnD players, but to people who are fans of the authors other work.

Having said that, there may be a lot of L. Hamilton fans walking in to high-street stores, but I work in a bookstore and I never once herd of someone asking after Andria Cardarelle or Elaine Bergstrom.

I'm not sure how much weight the other names carry amongst those not familiar with them through Ravenloft.
#15
gotten
Nov 19, 2006 19:56:15
Though I suspect anyone who's reading the current Laurell K Hamilton books is going to be surprised by the lack of foot-long schlongs in Death of a Darklord.

I was sure I did dream reading this, but no, it's there ...
#16
ravenloftlover347
Nov 21, 2006 15:43:08 It would be nice to see them do something more than just reprint the novels and update old adventures to 3.75 (you know, revised D&D 3.5) since they managed to get the setting back from ArtHaus and Sword & Sorcery (owned by rival, White Wolf). My only future hope for a release from them that is not a novel is a revived and updated version of Ravenloft 2, but I won't hold my breathe! It looks like WotC played the whole "If we're not doing it, you aren't either" card in regards to the actually setting. But the thing I don't get about that is this: why tell everyone that the current material from S&S supersedes 2nd edition and that any material you put out will supersede that if you aren't going to put out new material that actually applies to Ravenloft as a setting?
#17
john_w._mangrum
Nov 21, 2006 16:41:07
But the thing I don't get about that is this: why tell everyone that the current material from S&S supersedes 2nd edition and that any material you put out will supersede that if you aren't going to put out new material that actually applies to Ravenloft as a setting?

Out of curiosity, who "told everyone" that?
#18
ravenloftlover347
Nov 22, 2006 11:41:40 Now that you mention it, I remember seeing it as a statement from Wizards, but now I can't remember where. Oh well.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 yawbus_bug Nov 06, 2006 21:32:04	Since WW stop Ravenloft & Wizards made something for RL What will be done next?????????????
#2 The_Jester Nov 07, 2006 0:08:13	Nothing. Nothing at all. At most, a veiled reference or two in future products: a line reference to the Mists or a dark demiplane. Perjaps a nod in future issues of Dungeon with a few prestige classes or monsters in Dragon, typically around October when the scary Halloween campaign setting is dragged out from the closet and put on display. Then, in five or more years it'll slowly become more and more forgotten like Dark Sun, Mystara or Blackmoore.
#3 dwarfpcfan Nov 07, 2006 6:53:54	If you check the books section in this site You'll find that they will release around May if I remember correctly Vampire of the Mist and I Strad, Journal of a vampire Thats about it...
#4 lord_of_the_seven_towers_dup Nov 09, 2006 8:48:59	I just surfed over to find out whether anyone had heard anything on this subject. I didn't expect that Wizards would be doing anything with the setting, post EtCR. But then I took a trip over amazon, and it seems that they are re-printing some of the novels. Death of a Darklord and I, Strahd are already out and To Sleep With Evil and Tapestry of Dark Souls are coming next year. I couldn't help but get excited that something may well happen with the setting after all. To be honest though I imagine that 'Jester' is right, unless another company produces enough cash to buy the license.
#5 cat_god Nov 15, 2006 21:46:07	Are they going to reprint 'Knight of the Black Rose?'
#6 lord_of_the_seven_towers_dup Nov 16, 2006 3:17:16	Not that I'm aware of, but they certainly should, Knight/Spectre of the Black Rose are both ace Ravenloft titles. To be honest they seem to have picked some of the slightly less well known novels for the first batch of re-printing, I wonder whether or not they needed consent from the authors and couldn't get it for all of the most famous volumes. I wouldn't have thought so though, I'm pretty surer Wizards must own the whole lot outright, maybe however is behind the scheme just really likes those particular books.
#7 darkor Nov 16, 2006 14:25:26	Chances are low for the Knight/Spectre of the black rose to be reprint because of the "Soth never was in Ravenloft" thing. I know, it's sad. But with I Strahd, I'm ok ^^
#8 john_w._mangrum Nov 17, 2006 6:41:03	To be honest they seem to have picked some of the slightly less well known novels for the first batch of re-printing, I wonder whether or not they needed consent from the authors and couldn't get it for all of the most famous volumes. Less well-known novels perhaps, but they tend to be from better-known authors.
#9 buried_by_books Nov 17, 2006 7:32:59	Chances are low for the Knight/Spectre of the black rose to be reprint because of the "Soth never was in Ravenloft" thing. I know, it's sad. But with I Strahd, I'm ok ^^ Next month's Dragon will have an article updating the "World Serpent Inn". The teaser (in the current issue) states there will be a Ravenloft cross-over detailing Soth's shadowy replacment (or words to that effect -- sorry I don't have my copy with me so I can only paraphrase). So it looks like someone at Wizards still conciders Soth to have been in Ravenloft!
#10 rotipher Nov 17, 2006 11:21:47	The Great Soth debate is a dead horse. When Weis and Hickman came back to the D&D fold, they COULD potentially have demanded that WotC not only return Soth to their control, but also proclaim he'd never been in Ravenloft in the first place. They didn't hold out for re-writing official game-history that way, when they had the chance, so they obviously didn't care as much about the issue as most of the people who argue about it on these boards.
#11 buried_by_books Nov 17, 2006 12:29:46	I agree, darklords come and darklords go (and looking cynically Soth was an attempt to woo the Dragonlance players to RL with a crossover). But re-starting that conversation wasn't really my point, I was drawing attention to the upcoming Dragon #351 article -- while the setting may be in a limbo Paizo have at least one more support article -- It may be only a paragraph, it may be a near exact copy of the WW material, or it may be a full new Sithicus gazetteer -- we'll find out next month.
#12 gonzoron Nov 17, 2006 14:21:33	We actually know a bit more. See the author's comments here: http://www.fraternityofshadows.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3822
#13 zombiegleemax Nov 17, 2006 17:18:27	Less well-known novels perhaps, but they tend to be from better-known authors. Though I suspect anyone who's reading the current Laurell K Hamilton books is going to be surprised by the lack of foot-long schlongs in Death of a Darklord.
#14 lord_of_the_seven_towers_dup Nov 18, 2006 16:21:10	JWM: Good point, I guess they're not trying to sell the books to Ravenloft fans, or even DnD players, but to people who are fans of the authors other work. Having said that, there may be a lot of L. Hamilton fans walking in to high-street stores, but I work in a bookstore and I never once herd of someone asking after Andria Cardarelle or Elaine Bergstrom. I'm not sure how much weight the other names carry amongst those not familiar with them through Ravenloft.
#15 gotten Nov 19, 2006 19:56:15	Though I suspect anyone who's reading the current Laurell K Hamilton books is going to be surprised by the lack of foot-long schlongs in Death of a Darklord. I was sure I did dream reading this, but no, it's there ...
#16 ravenloftlover347 Nov 21, 2006 15:43:08	It would be nice to see them do something more than just reprint the novels and update old adventures to 3.75 (you know, revised D&D 3.5) since they managed to get the setting back from ArtHaus and Sword & Sorcery (owned by rival, White Wolf). My only future hope for a release from them that is not a novel is a revived and updated version of Ravenloft 2, but I won't hold my breathe! It looks like WotC played the whole "If we're not doing it, you aren't either" card in regards to the actually setting. But the thing I don't get about that is this: why tell everyone that the current material from S&S supersedes 2nd edition and that any material you put out will supersede that if you aren't going to put out new material that actually applies to Ravenloft as a setting?
#17 john_w._mangrum Nov 21, 2006 16:41:07	But the thing I don't get about that is this: why tell everyone that the current material from S&S supersedes 2nd edition and that any material you put out will supersede that if you aren't going to put out new material that actually applies to Ravenloft as a setting? Out of curiosity, who "told everyone" that?
#18 ravenloftlover347 Nov 22, 2006 11:41:40	Now that you mention it, I remember seeing it as a statement from Wizards, but now I can't remember where. Oh well.